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dale cavese went orf.
malinwa will get better. couldn't quite understand/hear lyrics from the hill, but it's a solid chant.
decent drumming last night. was that vandenberg? if so, you're doing well bud
also, the "city of the hunter" chant has so much potential. if everyone put as much effort into it as Au Revior, it'd be killer. everyone should be screaming it. I also understand the hypocrite I'm being - seeing as though I don't usually join active bay for home games. just my opinions
I think it's time to do another poster drop on the seats to explain what bay 2 is about with valid points....like what was done in season 6 when newbies joined bay 2.
I'm willing to put them on the seats aswell.
Might be a good idea if alot of us turn it just a tad earlier to the wsw game aswell as I dare say the rbb will be singing 30 minutes prior to kickoff.
Malinwa - need to practice it outside games if we want it to happen. TV got one of the lines a bit messed up, Stretch and Newyrover singing it slowly after each repetition ruined the rhythm of it. imo it is one of the few chants that you want to build up in speed (i.e start off slow, then increase to a faster speed to a point then maintain that speed). Watch how they do it in the original video again to see what I mean.
Ale ale ale oh chant was alright, needs some more work but getting there. Newyrover's bro got the pattern right, should be 2 fast verses then 2 slow (with overhead claps).
Oh yeah and it was Newyrover's bro on the drums, not Vandentard. Did a great job for sure. Only thing that needs working on is his pacing, it was getting too fast for most of the chants in the first half. Tough to get it right on your first day though, and already in the second half he had improved lots.
PS The RBB did this post better.
forget about the rbb muscles, it's all over
Are bodi and sam gladys really brothers?
Hey guys, why can't you be more like the RBB?
Minus the flares, flag-waving, fights, hardcore elements, chants with swearing, standing up in the middle of a game, and passion, of course.
Yeah we are SuperDyl. Would like to apologise for the errors last night got a bit nervous with it being my first time, i'm just glad i got the Dale Cavese beat close to the original.
Shut up, you did an excellent job. Best fill-in by far.
Hard to get the tempo perfect the first time around, unless you're black like q-money.
The real question is how many chicks added you on facebook after the game?
Oh and SD :rof:
rhythm is a dancer my white friends
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Originally Posted by militiamon
Top effort you were pretty good on drums gladys.
I was singing
we're newcastle,
we're wonderful,
we're gonna sing, jump and chant until we score
we're gonna win
and we will sing
Supporting Newcastle is everything!
Which fits it a lot better then what I posted earlier
we're newcastle,
we're wonderful,
we're gonna jump and clap and sing until we score
we're gonna win
and we will sing
Supporting Newcastle is everything!
No one is on the same page in the bay. Either people listen to the mega or we don't bother with it.
Alright, well I was just going on what was the accepted version on here and what had been sung in previous weeks. No biggie.
fwiw I think both versions sounds about the same, although since singing and chanting are the same thing I prefer the second version.
Doesn't matter the way it is sung
It's about the pace of it.
A lot of our songs are way to quick and need to be slower and build into a pace.
Play that song in your head do it slower than build it up, sounds a lot better than singing it quick from the get go.
Also needs;
Supporting newcastle is every f**king thing
no lanugage is needed and the pace is fine.
TBH didnt know a version was accepted as it was still bring worked on.
like "chant" in place of "sing" because we say "sing" a line or two down anyway
how about:
we're newcastle
we're wonderful
we're gonna jump, clap & chant until we score
we're gonna win
and we will sing
the red, blue and gold is everything
i agree with militia - i think once we get to the fast pace, we stay fast. probably needs about 5 (?) slow reps though, so a couple to be introduced, a few as a big group, and then speed it up.
i prefer supporting newcastle is everything.
i actually was singing it like this on thought at the last part.
and when we win
than will sing
supporting newcastle is everything.
allows for no arrogance in the chant of expected victory.
Can the chant have an ole part?
Good effort tonight Timmy V and Bay 2 particularly pre game and first half. Shame our inept players left you and all of us with **** all to really cheer about. You guys were really up against it and put in a pretty good effort despite the shite dished up by the boys in red/blue
Do like how most of you blokes started up 15 mins before kick off instead of just prior to kick off. Maybe look to continue doing that in the future as I feel it got a few around the ground going. May work a little better with a more partisan Newy Crowd than tonight.
Sitting upstairs in the Andrew Johns stand I barely heard the RBB all night as you guys were drowning them out the majority of the time.
For you cockheads wearing Jets colours at the ground taking photos and spending half the game watching the RBB and what they were up to you are a ****ing disgrace. **** OFF and join them if you like what they are doing
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Originally Posted by MFKS
We trialled having a capo up the back and timmy down the front, and this seemed to work well and could be a good option going forward.
I am hearing people arent a fan of the sitdown during Dale Cavese, I think we just do the overhead claps and save the sitdown for the Torcida chant (which Body and Tim forgot about tonight lol)
Yet again Timmy hit with beers from bay 1 and accosted by random blowins trying to tell him how to do things, who then get physical when people try to reason with them. There will be work done during the offseason to combat this.
To the majority of bay 2 who kept things going until late into the second half, well done that was the best we sounded for ages. We had a nearly full bay and a lot of people were up and active for most of the match.
Onwards and upwards for next season. May as well have fun in the stands especially if its going to continue with this shit on the pitch.
Yeah, good effort by all involved, including the extras who came in and had a go. I thought we were strong in the first half, if things had gone differently on the pitch in the second half then it would have been a different story.
Dale Cavese/Moliendo Cafe sitdown is good, just wasn't feeling it being started in the 20somethingth minute when we were 1-0 down and playing like shit.
It's a shame that we need 8000 away supporters to get the rest of the crowd involved is it in bay 6 and sing the along with the songs hoping others will join in but no one does they only did the Newcastle chant in the first half.I love how the RBB got all the fans in he corners to do the we sing for wanderers chant shame we can't do it but well done to Timmy for the year and his support every game doesn't matter how we are going he doesn't stop and to the squadron boys that give us a voice congrats look forward to next year
I sit in bay 6 and we do join in. The simple fact is that WSW have a range of chants that are easy to follow and interesting. What is the best that the Squadron comes up with? Newcastle, Newcastle, Newcastle. Dull, boring and unimaginative. Copy some Premier league chants if no one can come up with originals. Get the words out to the crowd so they know what you are saying. I heard one bloke say last night that if it wasn't for the really crap shirts that WSW wear, he would follow them!! the RBB silenced the Sqn last night.
RBB have five chants, thats it. And due to them having multiple bays of actives in a small stadium, their chants are louder and the rest of the stadium is able to hear and join in.
This doesnt happen at Hunter stadium due to the size of the stadium and the squadron only being one bay, and also due to the fact that a lot of our chants are of a different style to the Premier League chants, which we find boring and unimaginative. Do you know how many Sloop John B chants there are in football?? Thousands.
The main crowd chants we have are Come On Newcastle and the Jets chants which work well when the stadium wants to join in, which they did for the first half. Unfortunately with the game going the way they did, they didnt get up the rest of the game.
Straight off the bat I don't sit in the active support, and don't have anything to do with the squadron.
Putting aside any one persons taste in chants, what the RBB have is people who ****en join in and don't piss about chants not being imaginative enough.
Question for you Hunter403 do you go and join in the active support bays?
You do know there is a song suggestion thread, why don't you type up your suggestions?
What pisses me off is the constant "should be more like RBB", well here is a thought how bout you actually join in, you know like all the RBB fans you talk so highly of, and don't have one little sing-a-long then sit down because you don't like the next chant, or you could sit back as you do now and say your not as good your boring, whilst doing nothing to improve or even contribute to it. I personally find it a bit disrespectful to be bagging a bunch of blokes for their time & effort when you don't even attempt to step up to the plate.
I can only imagine what it would sound like if the squadron copied the who do you sing for chant off wanders, would be more of a response from the crickets in the surrounding suburbs then the rest of the stadium, just look at the results of the old stand up if you love the jets, unfortunately the majority are not as interested in actively supporting our club.
Good post Pico.
We had a higher average crowd than the Wanderers this season, yet when we go down there we fill up half a bay, they come up here and fill 5 or 6. It's not that they have more supporters, because they don't, it's the mentality of those supporters.
I think it would be fair to say that most Wanderers fans come from cultural backgrounds where it is normal to be expressive, loud and 'passionate'. They don't get embarrassed about joining in with chants even when they're sitting on the other side of the stadium, and neither do the people around them. The average Jets fan on the other hand comes from a background where yelling out in a group of people is not normal, and reserved only for the loud, drunk or mentally ill.
I'm not saying this as a criticism of our supporters, it's just the way it is. And that is the whole point of this really, there's no point pretending to be something that we're not. Like I said at the start, we have higher crowds than them, just because the majority of these people don't want to participate in 'active' support doesn't make them less valuable.
Finally, lol at people attributing the RBB's success to their chants. I think just about every chant of theirs has been sung by A-League groups previously:
"Who do we sing for?" - done by at least SFC and the Mariners 2-3 years ago ("We sing for Sydney!", "We sing for yellow!")
"Come on come on Wanderers" - done by just about everyone in various shapes and forms
Yes its too true Pete C, I hope after wsw visit its opened the minds of certain jets fans.
My question is what bay would help grow the squadron the best? Still credit to everyone in bay 2 for having a go. Does the squadron need general admission bays around to grow better?
If anyone is interested, check out the Herald's article today about the behaviour of the WSW fans (can't find it online). Basically says what a great bunch of people they are, passionate and well behaved, despite the many, many flares and arrest of one person.
Now compare this to the Herald's coverage of our away trip to Gosford in December 2011 where 1 flare was lit and there were a few ejections (no arrests):
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Newcastle's soccer louts
Tim Verschelden seems like a decent sort of fellow. Certainly as the president of the Newcastle Jets supporters group, the Squadron, he's ambitious if his efforts to portray the Squadron as a group of civilised people are a fair indication. Time after time he has stood to defend the Squadron against those who blame it for dangerous hooliganism at Jets games and time after time he has been betrayed at the next game. In defending the Squadron against criticism of obscenities, throwing objects at players, brawling and lighting flares, Mr Verschelden has blamed a rogue element, a certain pocket within, but on Thursday in response to news that Football Federation Australia is investigating mob hooliganism among Jets supporters at the Jets-Mariners game last weekend he tried a slightly different tack. He said, in the Herald, that the offenders were not members of the Squadron, that they were ring-ins, that while they claimed to be Squadron members they were not. The problem, Mr Verschelden, is that when we see them with the Squadron we see them as part of the Squadron.
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Some of the Jets supporters' thuggery was described in a letter in the Herald on Wednesday by a woman who'd taken her children to the game at Gosford. She described the obscenities, the brawling and the lighting of flares, and a video posted on YouTube (and since withdrawn) showed the Jets supporters' disgusting conduct as they moved as a mob to the Gosford game, at the game and after the game.
Six days before the mother's letter Jets chief Robbie Middleby had his own letter in the Herald. He wrote glowingly of the Squadron and how the Jets were envied by other teams for having such a committed and vocal supporter group behind the club.
Soccer throughout the world seems to attract fans who find their courage in mobs, and it seems that the Jets' thugs are doing their best to emulate Britain's notorious soccer louts. I suggest Mr Verschelden seek the help of the supporters' group for the Newcastle Knights, the Crusade, in cleaning up the Squadron. But, really, does the Squadron have any saving graces? Wouldn't Newcastle be better off if Jets games could be watched only on television?
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/44...-soccer-louts/
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Precisely right SD. Active support bay/ bays should be unreserved ticketingQuote:
Originally Posted by Superdylan
I wonder how many stay away coz they feel they ain't ALLOWED to sit their as their ticket indicates a different seat???
As a Member if you wasnt to sit in your seat for game you should be able to.
If you feel the desire to join in the active support for a certain game ie say Gypos at home you shoul be able to front up in the active bay and made to feel welcvome to do so.
It ain't like our 33k capacity is getting close to being breached.
On another note the idiots selling tickets to yesterdays game ****ed up big time. WSW had their allocation in the Druggo Stand so why were their pockets of WSWS scattered across the Jets seats in this stand??? I deadset had at least 50 scattered of them within 10m of me??
I thought the game was categorized as high risk so why allow this type of shit happening???
It wouldn't have taken much to start trouble in the top stand last night if the game had of been closer and their had of been some controversial reffing
Best SD post ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdylan
To the unfamiliar it can appear you need to buy a squadron specific ticket to get into bay2/1, bay3 is season ticketed regulars, this would make it very hard to grow in number if people who might want to sit on the fringes for a bit before getting involved don't think they can because a GA ticket doesn't let you near the active bays.
RBB for example are flanked by GA bays, making growth (of numbers and knowledge of chants) much easier.
Furns, tim, can this issue be raised with the club?
I know the hill doesn't meet "allocated" seating requirements with entry and exit points etc etc, but a fence at the top of the first concourse of seats would mean the southern concourse seating might. We could be five rows deep, and a few bays wide.
I know the issue has been done to death, and the location can't move due to the hill not being seated, but I think Bay 2 hurts the squadron.
While its in Bay 2, half the crowd can't see and probably cant hear you guys so they can't join in.
People in the western stands do join in with some of the basic stuff (Come on Newcastle) but generally the squadron has moved on as people start to get involved. With other chants, it really is hard to make out what is being sung.
I don't really have an answer, and its sort of chicken and egg stuff. You want people to join in and I think there are lots who do, but it is hard to know what is actually being sung.
I still don't know why the club insists in just allowing the status quo to exist. with a little bit of smart thinking and a little bit of cost they could move the active support out of bay 2 into the front of the southern hill and free up some prime reserved seats for families, whilst putting your standing fans in the obstructed viewing seats & having all your loud boisterous fans all together on the southern drinking hill. Its usually these people who I think would be more likely to join in and help naturally grow numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Fish
The entry / exit point I think could be solved, but it would require the club to want to do something. They could for example have access strictly from the pitch level, similar to how they had access for the lower front of the western stand when it was under construction. Have a path from the emergency access point near the terrace with entry from the south entrance area around the front with one or two of the fence gates open to allow access. I actually think the top walkway could be used as a selling point in that it allows much greater patrol ability & entry points for security if there is any trouble, not to mention it allows a good buffer from other fans so there will be no bay jumping from people.
The only thing that might drive the club to do something would be to have a chance to open up a couple of extra bays of reserved community seating. If they are going to try and increase their membership figures, more community memberships would be the ideal target as the entry cost for that membership is minimal.
But everyone's saying we should be more like the RBB.Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
Help. I'm so confused.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGlFA0QCAAEBcXj.jpg
Is this the one Pete?
Assuming HSG was to say No to the Squadron moving cart blanche to the Southern Hill seating and you all have to stay in Bay 2 would it even be an idea to send say 15 -20 blokes to go take up seats say half way between Zads Lads and Bay 2 in the seated area???
From there you could start up with the active support at KO just like the Squadron and see who comes down and joins in with you. Could also have some fun with chanting going back and forth over the corner flag between the "Rogue Squadron" and Bay 2.
If you started up doing this quite small even without the clubs approval they couldn't really complain too much when Zads Lads group isn't any different and they are allowed to do what they do
Furns may be the solution here is to actually throw in a couple of the chants that may appeal to the wider support base as well as the more cultured Euro based chants. Not all of them who go to the games are as cultured as those on the Foz who follow this game and our club with the passions we do. Maybe throwing in a few of the boring and unimaginative EPL chants as you find them may appeal a bit more to the uncultured Newy riff raff.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
Even the dreaded NEW--CAS--TLE chant that rings out at Knights games maybe useful. After all we are wanting people to participate and get involved. Why deny them of the use of this chant at Jets games just because it's origins emanate from the local league side???
At the end of the day regardless of how boring and uneducated one may find this chant it is unique to the area of OUR club and would most likely be embraced by the majority of our generally silent support base
Thats the thing, start simple and then expand from there. Once people as sucked in they are more likely to go for the harder (cultured) stuff.
Yep, that's the one, cheers Gaz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Fish
I wonder how Zad's Lads (who are normally the poster boys for our supporters) would feel about it being described as a fantastic night...
Edit: I should say, I personally didn't see anything wrong with it overall, but the difference in the treatment of the two situations by The Herald is astonishing. And people wonder why The Squadron has an image problem...