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to be honestQuote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
i think this formula, is comical.
that a 4th positioned team in NL1, @ 20 points behind 1st , could be promoted to NPL.
not sure what crack northern is smoking, and where in the universe such absurd bullshit is being conducted. ( besides NNSW F)
i would rather top 2 up, and bottom 2 down , why is 3rd and 4th in the equation?:wtf:
Spot on W8 the whole thing is driven by a staff member who came from a far better and more competitive league than this where second tier teams were much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by W8 WATCHER
I suppose if you're good enough to beat the second last NPL side over two legs and a team above you why not go up.
Then again they need a finals series of some sort since we are in Australia, and if you just said 2 up and 2 down then finals mean nothing, or if you said the Grand Final Winner goes up then 5th place could be going up
Second last NPL should play second from NL1, one game winner takes all, simple
irrelevant if you can beat or not beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Sth Melbourne beat Wellington, so do they get promoted?
it's embarrassing, that a team 20 points behind 1st, jags 3 wins and straight into npl.
its pretty simple , 1 team goes up, 1 team goes down.. the rest is garbage, nonsense and another shit stain on football in region.
interesting to see what happens in ZPL, apparent meeting of the top few teams, rejecting going up.
if this happens, watch Lakes contest the rules of relegation.
lastly, cant wait for the 1000 red cards, football ending injuries and continual ref abuse, over the next few weeks, all 4 teams have benched mark these behaviours all year, maybe put them in a cage to battle it out
So just push up whoever we feel likeQuote:
Originally Posted by W8 WATCHER
Was South Melbourne playing for a promotion spot in A-league? If the answer is yes, then yes they should be promoted.Quote:
Sth Melbourne beat Wellington, so do they get promoted?
I'd find it embarrassing if a NPL club can't beat 4th over 2 games. Can't justify staying up thenQuote:
it's embarrassing, that a team 20 points behind 1st, jags 3 wins and straight into npl.
Suns have already said they are happy going up, and it's not like they have a choice anyway.Quote:
interesting to see what happens in ZPL, apparent meeting of the top few teams, rejecting going up.
Well yes certainly 1 has continually got away with it too, Singleton should be feeling as though they should be in the play-offsQuote:
lastly, cant wait for the 1000 red cards, football ending injuries and continual ref abuse, over the next few weeks, all 4 teams have benched mark these behaviours all year, maybe put them in a cage to battle it out
Taffy, Suns are not keen to go up...
I heard they have been TOLD they have to go upQuote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
still not keen to go up in the end...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
Why force them up if they win NL1 they can?t go up with no juniors so what happens that year. No promotion or relegation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
That's a big If, it's not going to happen for a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
What happens though has already been highlighted, play-offs will still go ahead but it will be last in NPL taking the spot not second last.
I suppose keen is different to accepting that if they win they will be going up, same with Dudley.
To go from NL1 to NPL you need juniors. Suns and Dudley I think would finish in the top 4. So with no finals or not eligible to go to NPL what would either club be playing for in NL1Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
100% agree, very simple get the best outcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Extra games for them all might be a pain, and 4th place probably doesn't deserve a shot out of a 9 team competition
But I personally do like the idea of home and away matches
Way around the no juniors issue for lower tiered clubs and potential promotion would be a permanent decouple...if you don't have PYLB so what 🤷 it's only a reduction in the clubs own revenue opportunities
I misread and correct my post quite awhile agoQuote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
:roflz::roflz::roflz::roflz:Quote:
Suns and Dudley I think would finish in the top 4.
It will be 10 next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
when are the playoffs on?
The first leg was last weekend. The second leg is this weekend with the final on the 7th of SeptemberQuote:
Originally Posted by JustMe
Did see all games on Bartv. The NL Valo reserves was decent watch. Fair bit of youth in there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Alternative playoff system for mine is a 2nd v 3rd NL1 playoff, 1 game, then winner plays 2nd last NPL 1 game.
Kahibah First Grade player getting a straight red for ref abuse on the weekend. That would be that sides second R8 offence this year by the looks of it. I wonder if NNSW will start them on minus 6 points next season.. or would they consider it affecting points in the 2-leg finals game happening now..
It?s Kahibah you are talking about, not sure if there is anything in laws about second R8 Offence occurring in the finals. Was ordinary from an experienced player heard plainly on Bartv and no team mates argued the send off so that says it all. Interesting decision coming from NNSW.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
They’ll probably change it to an R6 offence so they don’t have to do anything like with Westy….Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
They didn't change it to R6 for Westy they changed the rules and said the second R8 wouldn't be counted if it occurred in the same gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Check the spreadsheet. I’ll admit I was wrong because it wasn’t R6, it was R9. But it’s only R9 because it was done by someone on the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Now their coach has gone to the media on it - that club seem really driven to test how much tolerance NNSW will accept. Keen to see what unfolds here.Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Got text for those of us too cheap to purchase a subscription?Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
KAHIBAH coach Mat Moncrieff has challenged the interpretation of referee abuse under Northern NSW Football?s zero tolerance policy after striker Riley Ferguson copped a six-match ban.
Ferguson was sent off late in the 2-0 loss to Toronto-Awaba on Sunday in the NPL promotion-relegation play-off semi-final at Peacock Field after yelling ?you?re f?ing kidding? when not getting a free kick. On Tuesday he copped the minimum six-match ban under ?R8 ? offences against match officials? for ?using offensive language and/or gestures?.
The zero tolerance policy, carrying bigger sanction for offenders and their clubs, was brought in this year to curb referee abuse.
While not defending Ferguson?s action, Moncrieff said the outburst should be classed as dissent, not abuse. The sanction is in line with similar incidents this year.
?I don?t agree that that?s abuse,? Moncrieff said.
?The statement that Riley made, we got told at the start of the year that would not be abuse. You had to make it personal to the referee.
?I don?t think that is. They have lost full control on what zero tolerance is and the refs are just making it up as they go. They don?t understand what it is either.?
Kahibah host the Stags in the return leg on Sunday.
Adamstown?s Jacob Dundas will miss the rest of the play-offs after getting a two-game sanction. Dundas was given a red card for kicking out and striking a West Wallsend player in Rosebud?s 1-0 first leg semi-final win on Saturday.
The action was deemed violent conduct, which carries a minimum two-game ban. He will miss the return leg against the Bluebells on Friday night at Adamstown and, if Rosebud progress, the promotion-relegation final on September 7.
Meanwhile, Charlestown?s Tyran Cousins will be free to play in the NPL grand final, if Azzurri make it, after getting a two-match ban.
Cousins scored both goals in the 2-0 elimination final win over Olympic on Saturday night but was then red carded for studs-up contact on Joey Langlois in a challenge for the ball.
He faced at least two matches out, given the automatic one-game ban for the send off and an additional match because he had been suspended this year. He faced an extra game if the tackle was deemed ?conduct that endangers the safety of an opponent in a contest for the ball or has the potential to cause serious injury?.
The foul was classed under ?a careless or reckless tackle?. He will miss the minor semi-final against Lambton Jaffas on Saturday and, if they are successful, th
So nothing major said, though I doubt Northern said you are allowed to swear at a ref if it isn't personal. Could argue it is not abuse then it should be an R6.2 which is a 2 match ban for using offensive language directed at anyone.
But considering Kahibah is the club with the most R8s across their teams, you'd think they would know what does and doesn't constitute abuse by now.
Done by a club official so yes has to be R9 can't be R8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
This coming from their coach and broadcasted to the media feels fairly majorQuote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
"They have lost full control on what zero tolerance is and the refs are just making it up as they go. They don't understand what it is either"
Had a West Wallsend recently post on facebook about how the ref was a cheat and going off about him. That's arguably worse then saying the refs don't understand what Northern's rules are, and Northern let it go, maybe because had they applied a 6 point deduction then Singleton would be in the playoff and Northern had already organised the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Plenty of people would agree with that comment to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Im not here to judge but as the dad of a referee maybe I can explain some of the thinking.Abuse towards the ref(which includes swearing) is a straight red.Questioning their integrity,right down to 'youre favouring them over us' is a straight red.Any use of the 'F' word (or similar) is a yellow.My son pretty much turns a blind eye to the general swearing on the pitch as its not ever a big deal but himself got carded this year for saying the F word celebrating a goal (awful rule I think).But when assessors are around if you dont ping people for abuse/dissent they get marked down and refs feel like they get demoted games so are a bit stuck.The example Foreverred posted seems very harsh,and if he got a straight red for that then Im surprised (were the quotes in that post verbatim from the report of heresay?).If it was a 2nd yellow then its pretty straight forward but if they were the only words said and he got a straight red then I feel thats harsh.Im think the kahibah coachs son is a NNSW ref as well so he would know the details of the rules.Going forward I would like to see the rules relaxed for players swearing in general play and a bit more common sense administered by the referees.But I absolutely think the harshest penalties need to still be dished up to coaches as they have no right to get as agro as they do.If coaches calm down its amazing how well behaved the players become and makes everyones match easier.
There have been instances of referees being abused on social media by players and they have been reported to NNSW.IMO this type of behaviour is way worse than 99% of stuff that is said on the field.If its true not only should NNSW,but the club needs to clear whoever wrote it out of their club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
You can see & hear it at 1:26:30 in this video if you're interested in reviewing for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
https://www.bartvsports.com.au/footb...-v-kahibah-fc/
Didn't get the free kick and said what he said, that was directed at the ref 100%, i still don't think it's a straight red, but that's the supposed law now days...Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
? you?re ? big word in this context
Thanks for posting that.I can see the ref considering that abuse and showing the red but its a harsh red in my book.Makes it hard when last year it was most likely play on and a warning on the run.But the refs have been instructed to be tough but again,I think its a harsh call on the player.Not sure why he didnt give the yellow and hope that it calmed the player down.For what its worth I thought it was a good tackle.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4