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15-01-2016, 04:02 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by riverboy

Virgilli certainly has rhe talent. I don't think theres any doubt over that. He probably hasnt taken his chance at A league level which is left him back at NPL Level.

I read alot of guys bagging the likes of Virgilli and NPL level players. But seriously where are the jets going to get their players???? Heard of the salary cap??? I say use the money and get a good foreigner and give a young aussie kid a go.

We had a squad of players that were youth reps across the board. We gave young aussie kids a go and our coaching sucked.

Biraz
Neville - Chapman - (Jackson) - (PlusOne)
Kanta - Beard - (Cowburn)
Hoole - Taggart - Goodwin

In my mind, this is exactly the sort of squad we should be assembling on a regular basis. It's the only way to be financially viable outside of a capital city market - recruit youngsters, fill the gaps with quality imports, sell youngsters for profit. You'll get the occasional player that never amounts to more than an average to good HAL player (Kanta may be a good example of that) and they will be your long term club heroes you aim to keep forever.
15-01-2016, 04:56 PM
riverboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimario

We had a squad of players that were youth reps across the board. We gave young aussie kids a go and our coaching sucked.

Biraz
Neville - Chapman - (Jackson) - (PlusOne)
Kanta - Beard - (Cowburn)
Hoole - Taggart - Goodwin

In my mind, this is exactly the sort of squad we should be assembling on a regular basis. It's the only way to be financially viable outside of a capital city market - recruit youngsters, fill the gaps with quality imports, sell youngsters for profit. You'll get the occasional player that never amounts to more than an average to good HAL player (Kanta may be a good example of that) and they will be your long term club heroes you aim to keep forever.

Fantasy league football. Most of those names are gone and probably wont come back. Time to move on.

Isnt Kitto a younger player that was recruited? I guess he is not everyones cup of tea.

People must remember it is the Newcastle Jets and the squad should reflect that. The squad should contain at least a third of local products.
15-01-2016, 05:20 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by riverboy

Fantasy league football. Most of those names are gone and probably wont come back. Time to move on.

Isnt Kitto a younger player that was recruited? I guess he is not everyones cup of tea.

People must remember it is the Newcastle Jets and the squad should reflect that. The squad should contain at least a third of local products.

I am not saying we should get them back. I am saying we had them and we gave young Aussie kids a go like you are suggesting. I am saying our coaching was shit and most of them have moved on to bigger and better things.

I've not seen Kitto play. I've not watched a Jets game in months and feel so much better for it.
15-01-2016, 05:43 PM
The Dunster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimario

We had a squad of players that were youth reps across the board. We gave young aussie kids a go and our coaching sucked.

Biraz
Neville - Chapman - (Jackson) - (PlusOne)
Kanta - Beard - (Cowburn)
Hoole - Taggart - Goodwin

In my mind, this is exactly the sort of squad we should be assembling on a regular basis. It's the only way to be financially viable outside of a capital city market - recruit youngsters, fill the gaps with quality imports, sell youngsters for profit. You'll get the occasional player that never amounts to more than an average to good HAL player (Kanta may be a good example of that) and they will be your long term club heroes you aim to keep forever.

You are never going to win a comp building an A-League team with youth rep players because too many of them don't make it to the next level or have a few good seasons and fade off into oblivion like Musalik, Sarkies, Patafta, Brown, and so on.

Worse still is that the better ones command far more than they are worth because their manager dangle the transfer fee carrot in front of the dumb as a box of rocks Jets management.

The ones you do get cheap that work out are usually gone in a season if you are lucky, then never to be seen again - leaving you with a massive gap in your roster you simply cannot fill which has a snow ball effect on the rest of the shit in your squad.
15-01-2016, 06:01 PM
Grimario

I didn't say anything about winning, just financial viability. The salary floor will guarantee we are never financially viable unless there's a big change in tv revenue.
15-01-2016, 10:01 PM
parksey

apparently david williams is off overseas
15-01-2016, 10:32 PM
riverboy

Just read hersi travelling to central coast for trial with mariners. Too old i reckon, they can have him.
Also seen a report that phil stubbins had agreed a deal with milos ninkovic before he was axed.

Makes you wonder what could have been? He is quality.
15-01-2016, 10:38 PM
lquiquer

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Originally Posted by riverboy

Just read hersi travelling to central coast for trial with mariners. Too old i reckon, they can have him.
Also seen a report that phil stubbins had agreed a deal with milos ninkovic before he was axed.

Makes you wonder what could have been? He is quality.

Don't know about Hersi but Ninkovic is fact.... When Muppet when to Europe last year he lined up Ninkovic with us, but he got axed and happened that Ninkovic and Dimitrivic know one another and got to talk, put the word to Arnie and bingo signed for FC...
16-01-2016, 06:35 AM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Don't know about Hersi but Ninkovic is fact.... When Muppet when to Europe last year he lined up Ninkovic with us, but he got axed and happened that Ninkovic and Dimitrivic know one another and got to talk, put the word to Arnie and bingo signed for FC...

Ninkovic is fact??

So Muppet says.

Find it hard to believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

:rof:
16-01-2016, 03:38 PM
riverboy

Muppet might have been not the best coach but he did better with foreign signings then the other coaches.
Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever. Ninkovic is in the top 3 players in the league. Hard to bag muppet on that.

Apparently he had other foreigners lined up for this year.
Talent scout maybe his future.
16-01-2016, 03:47 PM
MFKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by riverboy

Muppet might have been not the best coach but he did better with foreign signings then the other coaches.
Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever. Ninkovic is in the top 3 players in the league. Hard to bag muppet on that.

Apparently he had other foreigners lined up for this year.
Talent scout maybe his future.

I have been pretty vocal hammering Muppet in the past but have said before he was good at signing good players

Getting them to play well was another story.

May well be his calling in football as a scout as he has a good record
16-01-2016, 03:50 PM
380

Quote:

Originally Posted by riverboy

Muppet might have been not the best coach but he did better with foreign signings then the other coaches.
Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever. Ninkovic is in the top 3 players in the league. Hard to bag muppet on that.

Apparently he had other foreigners lined up for this year.
Talent scout maybe his future.

How are things in S.A. Phil ?.
16-01-2016, 04:01 PM
Thomas477

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Originally Posted by riverboy

Lee ki-je was one of if not the best foreigner we have had ever.

Kidding right?

Corbo, Coveny, Brown, Milton, Song, Vigs, Fiorentini, Kew, Heskey, Ritter, Brockie, Ali, Byun & Denni all had more of an impact that Ki-Je
16-01-2016, 04:44 PM
Premy

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Originally Posted by Thomas477

Corbo

:wub:
16-01-2016, 04:54 PM
parksey

lee was honking this season
17-01-2016, 08:53 AM
riverboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas477

Kidding right?

Corbo, Coveny, Brown, Milton, Song, Vigs, Fiorentini, Kew, Heskey, Ritter, Brockie, Ali, Byun & Denni all had more of an impact that Ki-Je

You serious???? Not quite sure if this a joke. Is ot April 1 already??
To start with Corbo was good if you just wanted a left back to pump it up the line. Slow and low skill level. Good at hacking players. They got him from low level english football. Why didnt the jets want to keep him then?? Because corbo was crap.

Coveny did a reasonable job, but he came to the club past his best.

Brown was just a standard A league player.

Milton was great when he was here. A good fit at the time for the jets.

Song was also quality. A good signing.

Vigs was dissapointing whilst in a jets shirt. Had good pedigree but failed to deliver.

Fiorentini was just a squad player that they got from lower levels in italy. Tried hard but hardly special.

Kew was decent. No doubting that.

Heskey was quality. A good fit for the jets. Fell away in second year.

Ritter was ok, hasnt done anything since leaving the jets.

Brockie was the one name on that list that performed for more then a season. A good player.

Ali again whilst at jets was just a squad player. Has kicked on a bit since then.

Byun was a sydney reject. Jets needed a left back. He was available. Was shown the door by GVE pretty quickly for a reason.

And Denni??? He was crap. Jets won the league but then got rid of him because he was crap.

Lee Ki-je was quality. Sure he didn't perform as well this year. But last he was excellent in a poor team.

How many of those names picked up a decent transfer fee for the jets?

How many of those names performed as well if not better then Lee Ki-je

Brockie and Milton id say.

Heskey, song and kew at same level.

As for the other 9 names. Tried hard but nowhere near the quality of Lee Ki-ji. Theres a reason he has played as a south korean under age international. Imagine if he was in a good team.
17-01-2016, 09:34 AM
plague

If you don't understand why Corbo and Vigs made an impact then you obviously didn't watch them play.
17-01-2016, 12:53 PM
The Postman

Cameron Joice coming back to the Jets Youth for the NPL season after 2 years at the AIS, full squad to be named soon.
17-01-2016, 01:47 PM
riverboy

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Originally Posted by plague

If you don't understand why Corbo and Vigs made an impact then you obviously didn't watch them play.

Your not their manager are you???? Please..... Corbo played year one, The A league has improved drastically since then. I respect Corbo as a professional, but really its like compairing a horse thats won a maiden at taree to a class 1 at randwick.

Corbo wouldnt clean Lee Ki-je's boots.
Vigs was quality, but sadly for the jets was past his best.

Obviously you were at the bar or toilet when corbo was playing? Or maybe you have just seen a highlights package on youtube.
17-01-2016, 02:03 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by riverboy

Your not their manager are you???? Please..... Corbo played year one, The A league has improved drastically since then. I respect Corbo as a professional, but really its like compairing a horse thats won a maiden at taree to a class 1 at randwick.

Corbo wouldnt clean Lee Ki-je's boots.
Vigs was quality, but sadly for the jets was past his best.

Obviously you were at the bar or toilet when corbo was playing? Or maybe you have just seen a highlights package on youtube.

Still a long way off but I appreciate your* hustle.

Good job.

Go Jets.

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