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This all seems like Mills is trying to sweep some serious breaches of spectator and club code of conduct, plus breaches of RSA laws under the proverbial carpet.Quote:
“It was serious what happened last year, this is just rubbish,” he said. “If they just let it go, we’d let it go as well but they just keep going.”
IMO this needs to be dealt with harshly by NNSWF.
We are all worried about a streaker. I would love to hear anyone who didn't find it funny. Where i was sitting in the grandstand near to some magic people, even they found it quite funny. Surely there are bigger areas to improve than the once in a life time streaker event.
This all just seems petty to me. This rubbish between Edgeworth and Magic is old, who cares? Both seem to be as bad as one another in different ways.
I'm pretty sure the mother in front of me that had to explain the situation to her young son and daughter didn't find it funny. I'm sure there were plenty of others in the same scenario. But hey, if you think that's acceptable then go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by immersion
The main issue is that he was knowingly let back into the ground and then jumped in for BarTV interviews around the dressing sheds. It was handled poorly and the behaviour from both hills with Edgy fans was pretty ordinary. Not to mention the physical altercation between this same group of mates and an elderly gentleman being escorted away by security with a bloody nose.
End of the day, you can't prevent a streaker, but once it happens, there are a lot of different ways it can be handled better than what happened on the night.
If you can't see the correlation between a streaker and breach of RSA and code of conduct laws then you need to have a long hard think about life.Quote:
Originally Posted by immersion
A breach of RSA laws alone could see parts of the club being shutdown on game days, and a loss of a major game day revenue stream
One common theme here, EDGEWORTH OFFICIALS. I recall reading about incidents with South Cardiff, Lambton Jaffas, Magic and Weston and Ive probably missed a few clubsQuote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Going a bit harsh there FR.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Yeah it wasn't great but I can honestly see a bit of tall poppy syndrome here.
Let it go and move on, have a look at Edgy's RSA and give them a refresher on their responsibilities but nothing else should be done.
punishment for Edgy's moronic behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
McBreen to play for Magic against Edgy, and Millsy to clean the toilets at Magic Park
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lock out laws to implemented, if your not in the ground by 11am, that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
but its continuous, when will and how will they learn with a soft approachQuote:
Originally Posted by Zico
I'm sure in the risk assessment for the return leg Edgeworth supporters will be limited to light beer and mocktails.
Uummm hellooo. I must have missed something. What exactly have Magic done here that warrants a hefty fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Yep, ill take the day off work to ponder my life because of the events that happen in local football. Good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
Out of curiosity why is it Edgys responsibility the behaviour of said streaker??Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
How about the bloke in question take responsibility for his own shit and how about other people actually force him to take responsibility for his own actions instead of trying to negate his responsibility by trying to blame Edgy for it
Hey next time I out at Jack McLauglin Oval if I have a beer or two whose fault is it if I take my clothes off and go running around ??
It ain't Millsy's fault
It ain't the bloke who handed me the over priced tinny
It ain't the fault of Edgy FC
It the idiot drinking it and the idiot doing it
It's the security companies responsibility to uphold the RSA laws they're contracted to enforce.
They were contracted for the event by Edgeworth, therefore, it's Edgeworth's responsibility to make sure the security company understands it's responsibilities.
That's the nature of employing contractors.
I'm only guessing, but from past experience I'd say someone at Edgeworth hasn't had that pre-event chat with their security head for the day and made sure they are acting in the clubs best interests.
It's event management 101 really.
Totally agree with comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
BUT
if Millsy is there high 5ing and encouraging the behaviour of this smart Edgyite, along with the 3 yellow vested duty officers, near the offender the whole game were finding his abusive manner funny and entertaining. then yes Edgy FC is at fault and they have a serious bogan mentality occurring at home, with repeat offences of this behaviour continually happening especially on Friday nights..
Great football team 1st GRADE is, unfortunately doesn't reflect the attitude of the morons running the joint
It is their responsibility because he was in attendance to support Edgeworth, was actively supporting Edgeworth and doing so within a larger group of Edgeworth supporters, regardless if they are known to the club or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
In the eyes of NNSWF there are no neutral supporters. Its is an absolute disgrace that when the streaker returned and was harassing BarTV, an Edgeworth official remonstrated with security not the kick "the kid" out, again. The streaking was a culmination of many events that Edgeworth official blatantly ignored and were not showing visible presence to monitor THEIR SUPPORTERS' BEHAVIOUR, ignorance is bliss at Jack McLaughlin.
I would hope NNSWF sends a clear message to Edgeworth on the standard of behaviour outlined in the terms of admission and spectator code of conduct and expected at its events, and implements bans to the degenerate few.
This is the key words here for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Magician
Punt the degenerate few, and problem solved.
Also agree with MonkeyK - it was the security peoples responsibility to kick out the streaker, and keep him out. The only people I can really think of from the Edgeworth club who had a responsibility once the streaker was let back in was the people selling alcohol, to make sure they didn't sell more to him (which I'm assuming they didn't but can't confirm).
Sorry Monkey but you are incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
It is the licensee's responsibility to uphold the RSA laws - ultimately they are responsible and can have their liquor license terminated if they are found to have breached requirements.
The security company and bar staff that kept serving this idiot should be being monitored by the licensee.
Rescheduled fixture
Azzurri v Maitland
First Grade Tuesday Night March 28 6pm at Lisle Carr
U20 Tuesday Night March 28 7.45pm at Lisle Carr
U18 Thursday Nigh March 30 6.30pm at Lisle Carr
So everyone is bashing a team for not controlling the crowd correctly. Which is fair in many ways.
But every club has their issues. Let's look at magic last year:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/41...dge-complaint/
This doesn't paint a great picture for the club. One of the worst incidents over the past 2 years. But nothing ever happens.
And yet everyone gets on the bandwagon when something like this happens. Honestly, other than the magic supporters on here, does anyone care?
Throwing beers bottles and assaulting a player barely caused an issue, and yet everyone is crying over this.
Lets move on and talk football.
So.... Edgeworth FC....Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
the issue is, as you stated that nothing ever happens, any behaviour like that isn't acceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by immersion
what does NNSWF actually do,
The issue is these two clubs have a history when competing against each other, until nnswf comes down hard with hefty fines, loss of points etc etc it will not end, this is far from a one off for both clubsQuote:
Originally Posted by immersion
Magic committee vs edgy committee in the octagon on main event
i was going to suggest the octagon myselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Nou Camp
by the way the NPL sounds absolutely wild just quietly, the article above and the comments geeee whiz
This is a question I've asked many times, on many different issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Creed
Simple...Make moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Creed
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/45...-goals/?cs=306
But where does it go?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
Would love to see a breakdown of their expenses.
ridiculous, how much money they make and yet so little seems to make its way back into local football.
I hope i am just dumb and can't see where the money actually goes.
Staff wagesQuote:
Originally Posted by immersion
Snouts in the trough
I take it you looking for a more elaborate answer??
I couldn't give a **** the LM facility is making money.
So it ****ing ought to be.
What is more relevant is when NNSW are going to produce a player for the NT
It been a while
KPI on performance obviously ain't high at Northern
yep. Stones and glass houses. Magic has had more than their fair share of trouble over the years but nothing we cant all get over as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by immersion
1K fine for the streaker. Edgey club on notice if anything further. done. Precedent set.
botox for DEQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Shuffle around Charlestown v Maitland RESCHEDULED FIXTURE
Tuesday
Under 18 6pm
Under 20 7.45pm
Thursday
First Grade Only 6.30pm
That seems to be a pretty big fine. Especially when you consider I think someone previously stated that you only get about $10,000 for winning the league. Need a fact checker there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
10% seems a little bit steep to me. But maybe these clubs have more money than I think
Fairly sure hawk means 1k fine directly to the person. Which is pretty lenient given that streakers at most large sporting venues end up more than 5k out of pocket, and one poor bloke got a 3 month gaol term a few years ago from an NRL match.Quote:
Originally Posted by immersion
Damn, i will not be streaking anytime soon lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
Under what authority would they enforce the fine?
Enforcement of the fine would be a civil matter and probably passed onto the police or state infringement office same as a parking ticket etc. NNSWF power comes from directly banning this person from any football activity for a period of time, implementing the National Banning Policy due to breaches of the SCC and TA.Quote:
Originally Posted by immersion
Irrespective of fines, the precedent has been if you are removed by security from a venue you are banned. When the streaker returned he was evicted by security. Case closed.
More importantly.
Small about of rain today and some more ocernight.
We going to get another weekend of wash outs as the grass to precious to play on and they softly call it off ??
Maitland v Jets 18s and 20s off apparentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I'm sure if it had happened at Magic Park the howls of disgust on here wouldn't be happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by immersion
Gee Magic are doing well if they can stack their U20s side with Matt Hoole and Dino Faj every week