Unfortunately Jeterpool the VAR was the least of the problems from that game.....I have never seen such amateurish defending in my life.....and I play over35s....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
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Unfortunately Jeterpool the VAR was the least of the problems from that game.....I have never seen such amateurish defending in my life.....and I play over35s....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
100%. I don't have Optus and don't often get to see Liverpool play live.Quote:
Originally Posted by redwah
They haven't inspired me to invest in Optus sport. Very disappointing.
That's a 100 million pound defence there too.
2bob the way they playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Can google “Liverpool” and there’s a highlights video from FA Cup available to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
I failed to add I watched the game on foxtel. Espn have fa cup rights
Nothing more needed than tonights farce to prove this thing is shit
Ikonomides goal give
Carruscas dive overturn as it not a foul
Topors handball. How the **** is that deliberate handball
Vedran dropping the ball into the net. Barely as foul. Justg shit goalkeeping. He dropped it into the net because he unco ****
****ing farce
World Cup going to be fun with this shit
Hello. Where do i sign the VAR out petition?
really? retarded refs are making the sh1t callsQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
First, the rules on handball have always been vague and second refs have never known how to fairly interpret when ruling on them.
fix those 2 right and no probs. 3rd var shouldn't be allowed to judge on vague interpretations, accidental hball, diving etc. offside call and Hoffs was fair.
No VAR - Wanders get their first goal and pen.
We win 3-2 and rave about a great game.
With VAR, pandemonium - wait till EPL starts this shit.
If that first goal is awarded, everything after that changes. I don't know why people assume that if something different happens in the first few minutes of a game, the rest of the game would play out exactly the same :lol: (p.s. not sure if you're just taking the piss, but that sort of comment does happen a lot!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Yeh except that wanderers scored like a minute after that happened soooo..Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Oh yeah I know that...if the handball wasnt given events would be different and no Nabbout goal!Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Fully expect a Bozza pro VAR rant in favour of his local club this afternoon.
So you think if the first goal had been awarded, then the same sequence of events would have occurred leading up to their penalty? No, they wouldn't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
Slo mo makes Topors handball look far worse. Look at it in normal motion....it can in no way be deemed "deliberate", which is the key wording.
Vars are people, too, who need respect and love like anyone else.
Next thing you will be saying is we should love MultisQuote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
Watching it again i even less convinced on the Janjetovic goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
The bloke shoukd have been much higher than Hoffman
The bloke basically just dropped the ball into his net
I understand the keeper protected species theory etc
But
Once the onfield ref seen the challenge from Hoffman aamd allowed it
Where was the evidence to overturn the decision??
Because nothing changed
The Hoff goal was a farce. If that ball goes to ground and a WSW defender happened to clear it or any other scenario that sees it not go in to the goals it is play on for all money. The mere fact it dropped in to the net was no reason to over analyze it and feel the need to apportion blame to somebody.
Every time there is controversy around the VAR it seems Streb is the one up in the box. Some weeks you would swear he is asleep up there and other times he can't stay out of the game.
The talk on Fux this afternoon will be that the correct decisions were made. The forgotten point will be that VAR is meant to only overturn an "obvious error".
The offside was the only obvious error.
Ah Ned...."there are people out there saying it was a handball.....well, they're wrong"....*applause*
The bloke threw it into his own net. He should be getting crucified it was a dead set howler in my opinion!Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Read this one
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/analy...e-rules-485366
Wow. Great article. I loved it up to the point he said he usually likes Sydney Slater FC...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
Maybe it's about time that (cough cough) FIFA step in and review referee accreditation processes.
It seems decisions aren't in the best interests of the game and that is to let it flow.
The NT-S handball and da Hoff out jumping Jan-Flap-O-Boetch classic examples.
Seems were stuck with a bunch of officials here in Oz who are more concerned with their 'moment'
on National television than making good decisions and keeping out of the game as much as possible.
The worst of these is Shaun Evans. I reckon some idiot told him he looks vaguely like Tom Cruise and
the dickhead has been waiting for some flashy Director to scout him and cast him in an action thriller ever since!
So often I have wished I could write an article and get it out there explaining some wrongs in the game.
This guy has nailed it - everything I wanted to say in one piece. I believe Lawrie has put up similar on social media. Ernie blowing up about it will carry alot of weight.
The Jets should raise an official complaint to FFA so that this sort of shit stops. The other night Green delayed issuing a yellow card to Uga until AFTER the replay on the screen - that is what is happening in the background.
Our refs are not up to it and as Okon said have no "feel" for the game. They focus on process.
Again Ned said it was a wrong decision and knows the rules - Bozza who apparently texted Peacock 37 times to tell him it was a handball will give reason shortly (probably tonight) as to why VAR was right.
That down to middle managementQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Ie the refereeing bosses and their bullshit take on thiings
Refs job is to apply the rules
Feel for the game is a load of new age bullshit.
Blow the whistle when required
Card players when required
Send off players when required
Give pens when required
Adjudicate the game in a fair and impartial manner
Not ****ing rocket science really
The whole process is ****ed and middle management at FFA needs a clean out
in commentary, slater again congratulated the linesman for not making the call on the offside "and letting the VAR sort it out" (or words to that effect). :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Crap - old time refs would apply the rules in the "spirit of the law, not the letter of the law" (Jimmy Hill, pundit and qualified referee 1973), they would judge whether a booking was warranted or not. They knew what a handball was which is why it was so rare. The game was allowed to flow and when necessary thugs were dealt with.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Referees were also much more highly respected then too.
Yep, heard that and cringed. The assistant (rightfully) didn't raise his flag ad there was precisely a bee's pecker in the decision. Benefit of the doubt should go to the attacking team. Well done assistant for performing your job.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
The millisecond the perceived safety net of VAR creeps into an official's thought process, all credibility is lost.
TL/DR - Pi$$ the VAR off for the good of the bloody game, FFS
Speed on the WLeague final..."would that goal have been given if the VAR was operating"?
Why even mention it?
Did he mention the sponsor of the VAR? Pretty certain he’s on a commissionQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
he probably yelled it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
Fox and VAR are driving me insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
I like to call VAR, Lisa - https://youtu.be/mPBPa2BQFRMQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Curiously last night Bozza backed down a little but brought out the "un-natural" fallacy again.
Also they didn't even mention the Hoff goal. My have more analysis on A-League Hour tonight.
One thing few of you mention is that this is largely a problem of supply. Labour supply.
Who wants to be a referee? How many of you are state-league referees, or ref at a higher level? Why not?
Most A-League refs are part-time and paid relatively poorly for the work. It's not worth the time investment for most people, unless they genuinely love refereeing.
The solution is either to pay refs more (unlikely) or accept that, because of the tight supply, we'll cop duds.
(Yes, I've reffed at state-league level. It's not worth my time putting up with utter farqwits who can't accept decisions.)
Having said that, I was very strict on the "deliberate handball" rule and rarely awarded fouls or pens for handball.
And guess what? Players blew up about it all the time, insisting that ball touching the hand should be a pen regardless of arm movement/distance/speed/etc.
I always laugh at the hand ball, arm in unnatural position comments.
Last time I checked his arm was still joined to his shoulder and runs along the side of his body with a large range of natural movement... what the ef in an arm in an unnatural position?