2016/17 Squad Thread

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Makes sense to me. Duncan needs another keeper to put pressure on him. He is getting too comfortable and that sure affects concentration......maybe not Covic...:wink:

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That sort of comment is ridiculous. Duncan made one error last night but apart from than he has been one of our best all season. This needs pressure and too comfortable shit is neo-liberalism ideology at its finest. There is little if any evidence to back up such claims in football or any other occupation. In fact there is a lot to suggest that pressure for positions can actually have the opposite effect whereby individuals start putting themselves before the best interests of the team.

Duncan fumbled a wet ball in slippery conditions - that is what happened. Keepers in the top leagues around the world have done just as bad and in a lot of cases worse than Duncan did last night. Did they stuff up because of no pressure for their position ? Of course not - and neither did Duncan.

Duncan has flourished with game time. He has improved every game. Yes, he made a mistake last night in trying conditions and it cost us but I think he will learn from it.
Let's not forget who gave away that dumb free kick. I was praying for yellow

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Originally Posted by pv4

Thinking last night, why doesn't the club terminate Kennedys squad spot to free up a place for Čović or a #1 keeper to dethrone Duncan. Makes perfect sense.

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Because that is what a competent club does.

I know there are a lot of BK fanbois out there but the club need their heads read if he is offered a new deal

1 game in 2 years after 11 years being unable to nail down the spot has no logical justification in being offered a new deal.

Though I am backing the club resigns both BK and Kanta who should be treated same same

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

That sort of comment is ridiculous. Duncan made one error last night but apart from than he has been one of our best all season. This needs pressure and too comfortable shit is neo-liberalism ideology at its finest. There is little if any evidence to back up such claims in football or any other occupation. In fact there is a lot to suggest that pressure for positions can actually have the opposite effect whereby individuals start putting themselves before the best interests of the team.

Duncan fumbled a wet ball in slippery conditions - that is what happened. Keepers in the top leagues around the world have done just as bad and in a lot of cases worse than Duncan did last night. Did they stuff up because of no pressure for their position ? Of course not - and neither did Duncan.

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I heard quite a few keepers over the years mentioning competition brings the best out of them. And I'm not crucifying Duncan, i actually think he has been terrific all year. I just believe another keeper competing for number 1 spot would benefit all parties.

There's also just as many mentioning that they don't perform the best in pressure situations and like to know they are the preferred option.

Everyone is different. Whatever brings out the best in somebody.

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

I heard quite a few keepers over the years mentioning competition brings the best out of them. And I'm not crucifying Duncan, i actually think he has been terrific all year. I just believe another keeper competing for number 1 spot would benefit all parties.

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Name the few keepers you suggested and lets look at their competition and how it made them better. I'll be very happy to be proven wrong.
because when I think of great Keepers like a Banks, a Buffon, and so on I think of blokes who's only motivation came from wanting to be the best rather than any internal competition.
I mean was Maradonna good because others threatened to take his position ? I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

I mean was Maradonna good because others threatened to take his position ?

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Nope, it was the coke.

Def the coke.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

Name the few keepers you suggested and lets look at their competition and how it made them better. I'll be very happy to be proven wrong.
because when I think of great Keepers like a Banks, a Buffon, and so on I think of blokes who's only motivation came from wanting to be the best rather than any internal competition.
I mean was Maradonna good because others threatened to take his position ? I doubt it.

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I was only referring to keepers. I do remember Theo being one of them: He knows he has Young on his arse and gets motivation from it. It seems to be working for him......Same with Barthez in 2006 when he was in competition with Coupet ......Anyway all I am saying is I believe it's beneficial to a team to have 2 keepers competing for number 1 spot. But hey I might be wrong?

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

I was only referring to keepers. I do remember Theo being one of them: He knows he has Young on his arse and gets motivation from it. It seems to be working for him......Same with Barthez in 2006 when he was in competition with Coupet ......Anyway all I am saying is I believe it's beneficial to a team to have 2 keepers competing for number 1 spot. But hey I might be wrong?

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Barthez is a great example. He had a good first season with Man U and once Howard arrived he went to shit and was never the same again. Started taking too many risks as he panicked to stay No. 1
With respect to Coupet -the competition between him and Barthez for the national GK spot essentially led to a fight between Coupet and Domenech when Barthez got the nod ahead of him. That's the problem when you have two guys of similar skill competing for a position - one has to lose the battle and it can sometimes come down to a coin toss or off field factors more so than who is doing a better job.
Professional sports persons often come with big egos so it's not a good situation.
It's bad enough at national level but at club level it's a disaster because players are contracted for longer duration and have to play a lot more games per season.

In this humble fans option unfortunately he is not good enough.It's not just last night but it certainly didn't help. His decision making is terrible catch the ball jack.Even if he see it late why punch there's no one around you.
Who we get I don't know but someone better then him

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Originally Posted by nleagles

In this humble fans option unfortunately he is not good enough.It's not just last night but it certainly didn't help. His decision making is terrible catch the ball jack.Even if he see it late why punch there's no one around you.
Who we get I don't know but someone better then him

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He did alright catching that last one then quickly outletted perfectly to Chinese Messi who then put Nobby through to win it but yeah nah he's gash let's set fire to him or something.

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Originally Posted by nleagles

Game's line and we some how make it to the grand final.Would you still feel confident with him in goals ? If you say yes you lied to and everyone else you know what truth is

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Serious man I'd answer your question if I could understand what the hell it is.

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Originally Posted by plague

He did alright catching that last one then quickly outletted perfectly to Chinese Messi who then put Nobby through to win it

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It was the highlight of the night and more than made up for the fumble earlier. He recovered well.

Here's a question or three

We haven't had a "target man" as a 9 for a while. We haven't played that way this season.

How do you think we will fit Kokko into the line up? Who's in and out? Will we change the way we play?

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

Here's a question or three

We haven't had a "target man" as a 9 for a while. We haven't played that way this season.

How do you think we will fit Kokko into the line up? Who's in and out? Will we change the way we play?

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How do you fit the kok in?......well I'm sure plenty on the foz will explain that to you......My English not that good......

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

Barthez is a great example. He had a good first season with Man U and once Howard arrived he went to shit and was never the same again. Started taking too many risks as he panicked to stay No. 1
With respect to Coupet -the competition between him and Barthez for the national GK spot essentially led to a fight between Coupet and Domenech when Barthez got the nod ahead of him. That's the problem when you have two guys of similar skill competing for a position - one has to lose the battle and it can sometimes come down to a coin toss or off field factors more so than who is doing a better job.
Professional sports persons often come with big egos so it's not a good situation.
It's bad enough at national level but at club level it's a disaster because players are contracted for longer duration and have to play a lot more games per season.

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Barthez also hated life in England, never learn the language, hated the food and lifestyle.. Not his scene

Lets be honest, Birraz was also shithouse in his first season for us. Did the exact same stupid things, shat himself at crosses, was indecisive in coming out etc.

The 'mare he had at bluetongue comes to mind

So we're in the 6 so apparently we dont need new squad members.

Is James Fletcher in newy east still open for intake?

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Barthez also hated life in England, never learn the language, hated the food and lifestyle.. Not his scene

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Very True.

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Originally Posted by OmeletteDuFromage

Lets be honest, Birraz was also shithouse in his first season for us. Did the exact same stupid things, shat himself at crosses, was indecisive in coming out etc.

The 'mare he had at bluetongue comes to mind

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he did one of the local scags??? eww, that's nasty...