2016 National Premier League thread

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Originally Posted by pv4

Cheers.

It's such a big investment. I was talking to some guys from su58 and they said the upgrade to synthetic at Edensor cost $700k and was entirely funded by the King Tom club. Insanity. No newcastle team could ever afford synthetic without some serious government funding.

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sorry.. but no no no no no to synthetic... In a country like australia there should be no need for it... (plus im still not overly convinced re long term injuries) over here naturally we have synthetic/artificial due to the winter months etc.. It is a perfect tool for training, club team capacity and so forth.. but I find the football just not the same on artificial turf and personally allways feel much more sore after a game and training session on artificial turf.. dislike playing dislike watching.... WE have 2 superleague teams currently that play with synthetic.. it limits the stadiums abilities to host games and it just isnt the same feel.. Plus they struggle immensly on proper turf... Just not completly convinced personal oppionion...

Synthetic pitches linked to goalkeepers getting cancer too.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...tary-1.3307224

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Synthetic pitches linked to goalkeepers getting cancer too.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...tary-1.3307224

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Why is that?Do they tend to smoke during hot weather?

For those reading the herald writeup on the game, and saw the bit about the disallowed Edgy goal from the corner - it was a blatant, clear handball by McBreen. I'm talking Thierry Henry vs Ireland style handball. And when the ref & linesman talked to each other about it, McBreen was given a yellow and he was smiling & having a laugh with the ref about it. Clear as day, not even worth considering a goal.

If you watched the Koori cup yesterday, there is an indigenous team picked from predominately NPL and Newfm players, going to compete at the national championships in Nowra From nov 3-6, fair squad picked, couple of old heads and a lot of youngens..... Nnsw unfortunately are not helping out financially in anyway, which I thought even a little would have helped

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Synthetic pitches linked to goalkeepers getting cancer too.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...tary-1.3307224

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That is too big a risk to continue with.

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

If you watched the Koori cup yesterday, there is an indigenous team picked from predominately NPL and Newfm players, going to compete at the national championships in Nowra From nov 3-6, fair squad picked, couple of old heads and a lot of youngens..... Nnsw unfortunately are not helping out financially in anyway, which I thought even a little would have helped

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Who is in the team?

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Originally Posted by EH9

Who is in the team?

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Kye Abraham
Jake Racz
Ayden Brice *
Chad Hugo
Tallan Martin
Jayden Monssey
Jarrod Purcell
Keanu Moore
Troy Hearfield
Brody Taylor **
Sam Webb

Reece Rayner
David Bourne
Taj Abraham
Lachlan Bellenger
Jordan Purcell

Allowed two non indigenous.

Seriously, 2 non indigenous players, what's the point, defeats the purpose

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Seriously, 2 non indigenous players, what's the point, defeats the purpose

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Yeah not sure on the theory, I suppose some clubs can bring in some big names that aren't aboriginal, I know they will all be numbered 15 or 16 so they are not up for selection in the national indigenous team selected at end of tournament.

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Originally Posted by hawk

That is too big a risk to continue with.

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Am I the only one who thinks these studies are just a load of bollocks.How these findings are thought of as anything other than a total wank is beyond me. It's like a study that states car accidents are linked to air pollution. Next thing they'll want you to believe in climate change!

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Originally Posted by Tonester

Am I the only one who thinks these studies are just a load of bollocks.How these findings are thought of as anything other than a total wank is beyond me.

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The article clearly says the evidence is anecdotal.

But honestly, with the numbers they're seeing - like 34/38 footballers dealing with cancer are goalkeepers, it's hard not to at least raise the questions like they are doing. And it looks as if questions are being asked, and further studies are being done. Which if anything, can't hurt.

If it turns out ingesting this rubber leads to cancer, like some are guessing now, we'll be thanking those people when these results are produced.

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

Kye Abraham
Jake Racz
Ayden Brice *
Chad Hugo
Tallan Martin
Jayden Monssey
Jarrod Purcell
Keanu Moore
Troy Hearfield
Brody Taylor **
Sam Webb

Reece Rayner
David Bourne
Taj Abraham
Lachlan Bellenger
Jordan Purcell

Allowed two non indigenous.

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Not a bad side at all! Who is coaching it?

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Originally Posted by EH9

Not a bad side at all! Who is coaching it?

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Mick Hugo

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Originally Posted by pv4

The article clearly says the evidence is anecdotal.

But honestly, with the numbers they're seeing - like 34/38 footballers dealing with cancer are goalkeepers, it's hard not to at least raise the questions like they are doing. And it looks as if questions are being asked, and further studies are being done. Which if anything, can't hurt.

If it turns out ingesting this rubber leads to cancer, like some are guessing now, we'll be thanking those people when these results are produced.

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A study was done in 2010 in California documenting the inhalation and skin abrasion risks.
Unfortunately, lead and zinc which are used in tire production were not adequately factored into the study.

http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/publica...%5C2010009.pdf

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Originally Posted by Tonester

Why is that?Do they tend to smoke during hot weather?

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More time training on the ground, greater contact with the rubber pellets and breathing in any fumes that may be emitted.

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Originally Posted by Tonester

Am I the only one who thinks these studies are just a load of bollocks.How these findings are thought of as anything other than a total wank is beyond me. It's like a study that states car accidents are linked to air pollution. Next thing they'll want you to believe in climate change!

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Probably.
As PV4 has alluded to, these artificial pitches are relatively new. There are limited studies because they are so new and the long term effects of these pitches won't be known for some time. Sure, the theory is similar to cigarettes. If this promotes more thought and science to become involved with ensuring that these pitches are scientifically safer, that can only be a good thing.
I remember playing at A pre season game at Hills Sports artificial pitch, the grass pitch was washed out, but the day we played was 30++. You could smell the pitch, and feel the heat radiating from the little rubber beads. It wouldn't surprise me if prolonged exposure, deep breathing also, could have side effects. Not to mention the acute physical injuries of knee and ankle injuries and superficial burns. We had a guy instinctively slide on it, burnt from below knee to halfway up his thigh, looked very nasty.

Anyway, i'd much prefer they look to make it safer now, than in 20 years time when they figure out 20years worth of players are developing issues.

Artificial grass has ruined tennis in Australia and I cannot for the life of me see what benefits it can provide for football or any other sport.

The situation with tennis is that it's used at amateur level but not for semi-pro or professional events. You then have kids developing their skills on a surface which has little to nothing in common with the surfaces they will face as they move towards the professional ranks.

Not an opinion either - professionals hate the shit and they all strongly advise kids to stay away from it if they ever want to develop the necessary skills to make a living at the game.

I think artificial grass for footballers will have the same issues - namely kids development will be towards what works best on artificial grass rather than what would work best on the surface they will play on as they progress towards becoming professional.

And for those saying the cost of natural grass is too high with maintenance and so on - wake the **** up. We have millions of people in this country either out of work or looking for more hours who could very easily provide these services.

The studies on cancer are not worth worrying about. Simply get rid of the shit and start putting down real fields. So what if weather stops games from being played ? Poor weather certainly didn't hinder Pele, Maradonna, or George Bests development.

Waste of time - **** it off.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

Artificial grass has ruined tennis in Australia and I cannot for the life of me see what benefits it can provide for football or any other sport.

The situation with tennis is that it's used at amateur level but not for semi-pro or professional events. You then have kids developing their skills on a surface which has little to nothing in common with the surfaces they will face as they move towards the professional ranks.

Not an opinion either - professionals hate the shit and they all strongly advise kids to stay away from it if they ever want to develop the necessary skills to make a living at the game.

I think artificial grass for footballers will have the same issues - namely kids development will be towards what works best on artificial grass rather than what would work best on the surface they will play on as they progress towards becoming professional.

And for those saying the cost of natural grass is too high with maintenance and so on - wake the **** up. We have millions of people in this country either out of work or looking for more hours who could very easily provide these services.

The studies on cancer are not worth worrying about. Simply get rid of the shit and start putting down real fields. So what if weather stops games from being played ? Poor weather certainly didn't hinder Pele, Maradonna, or George Bests development.

Waste of time - **** it off.

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The maintenance of natural grass is too high due mainly to labor costs. Would you expect these millions of unemployed people to work for free or should we employ slave labor to fulfill the task.Maybe you need to wake up and smell the roses Mr.Dumpster.

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Originally Posted by Tonester

The maintenance of natural grass is too high due mainly to labor costs. Would you expect these millions of unemployed people to work for free or should we employ slave labor to fulfill the task.Maybe you need to wake up and smell the roses Mr.Dumpster.

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Thank you for your kind well thought out reply Tonester.

The cost of maintenance is not an issue for any government that is a monopolist supplier of fiat. Government account is debited at RBA, exchange settlement account of bank used by worker is credited, exchange settlement accounts sum to zero. What's the problem ? Worker gets paid, tax payers pay nothing, unemployment falls, national income increases, increase in national income induces increased investment , increased investment leads to higher standards of living.

So basically, removing people from unemployment, increasing opportunities for existing businesses through flow on effect of a rise in GDP and investment potential, and also removing the risk of cancer from the equation.

Seems like a good idea to me.