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Regardless of where these two teams are coming from the FFA need shooting for this
This should actually be a big deal and a great promotional aspect to get media attention and get people excited about the League and the future
The dumb ****s do it on a Friday with little fan fare and it lost amongst the weekend sport
And they wonder why the game is struggling when the ****wits running it shoot thermselves in the foot not getting maximum media coverage of news about the game
Ditto re management. I once worked for a company and had a really great relationship ( no not a Barnaby type ) with the MD and every time the bloke wanted a reality check from the office in Melb he would hop on a flight and come ride shotgun for a few days. He had experience in the States and all over Europe and he said to me once on one of these visits that blokes in his position are good for about 4-5 yrs then it is time to move on and freshen up so both parties can have a breath of fresh air and enthusiasm. Sorry for the drawn out post but IMO David Gallop is well and truly at this point in his tenure at the FFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
But knowing how these types operate Irish O Rourke will be probably be the fall guy for Gallop and Lowy Jnr's incompetence
I will support Canberra United. It will be my second team, and I will attend some games, but in my Jets shirt.
didn't you used to support Gold Coast in the same sort of manner?
Melbourne Victory when he first came on here....ultimate plastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
what I was actually doing there was making a reference to this other bloke, snaggletooth, who used to be a fan of the Jets and Gold Coast
Timing of this is superb. A vain attempt at halting the very real dissection of failures at head office.
“More details” will be - “it’s not the right time, we need to focus on removing referees and adjudicating entirely from VAR position”
bit more on canberra, it has direct flights between every current a-league team bar central coast (and nobody flies there).
Canberra is dope and I’ll support them.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
May even make Plague Jnr wear their kit.
what a sh1t scenario. Yeah share a ground but Go alone or fk orfQuote:
A-League bidders Southern Expansion have signed a memorandum of understanding with NRL club Cronulla to stage some of their home matches at Southern Cross Group Stadium.
Sharks chairman Dino Mezzatesta, meanwhile, has also pledged the club's "full support" to Southern Expansion's bid.
Former NSW premier Morris Iemma, who has succeeded the late Les Murray as Southern Expansion's chairman, welcomed the cross-code agreement.
This whole hybrid bits of Sutherland the St George area and Wollongong Southern proposal is a load of shite but sadly Gallop played his hand on this proposal long ago. Tis the worst proposal of all but will get up because Gallop will want the Chinese ownership and the stadium they are promising to build around Loftus. They will be lucky to pull a home crowd of 5-6k because nobody will be able to identify with it as there own town team IMO.
Just bring back the Wolves and Canberra in there own right and lets get on with it FFS.
They will sell their mother to get another Derby cause they will fill the stadiums on those daysQuote:
Originally Posted by 380
The novelty value has gone from the current derby. No sell out for a while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
new team new novelty, for a while anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
so we've gone past March now, has anybody seen anything about the formal announcement on criteria etc that FFA were supposed to release in March?
Yes, we have. You will find the FFA's official Invitation for Expression of Interest at this link.
Well done to Geoff Gallop and everyone else at the FFA for being transparent about this, for releasing their time table and for opening themselves to scrutiny.
https://i.imgur.com/kwxqdC5.jpg
(In case you don't want to open the PDF: )
EVALUATION CRITERIA
Vision:
The extent to which the Respondent demonstrates:
- a compelling vision for the proposed club, including the ability to contribute positively to the growth of the A-League and football in Australia;
- an understanding of the football landscape in Australia; and
- the attitudes, ethics and mindset to underpin a successful long-term collaborative relationship with football stakeholders, including the fans, member federation, clubs, government and local communities in the Territory
History and Culture:
The extent to which the Respondent demonstrates an understanding and appreciation of the history and culture of football in Australia and in the Territory, including clubs and players, national team representation and any participation or connection with that history and culture.
Financial Capacity:
Existing financial strength or demonstration of the ability to raise finance sufficient to acquire the right to participate in the A-League and ensure the sustainable participation that contributes to the growth of the A-League.
Capability and Experience:
The extent to which the Respondent demonstrates the capability and experience to operate a professional football club.
Other:
Such additional criteria as FFA may determine are in the best interests of football in Australia.
Other, isn't that the part that Gallop struggles with as part of his job description ?. No way in hell can this bloke demonstrate how he has added value to the game in this country in his role at FFA.
If Gallop had any idea what was in the best interest of the game he would have already made the announcement that he and Ref's boss Ben Wilson would not be in there respective roles for next season. The game can't support a 10 team comp with another season of indecisive management and sub standard officiating let alone hoping to sustain 12.
Sponsors and corporate partners won't want to be financially supporting a dogs breakfast. I am all for expansion but under current FFA management the shot in the arm will be nothing more than a short lived sugar hit.
thanks couscous.
if i was a potential tenderer, "Other" is a category that would scare the crap out of me. it screams at me that it doesn't matter how good/deserving your application may be, if you don't fit our pre-determined thoughts, then you won't get in.
Absolutely this. Gallop the incompetent already played his cards as to his preference and as a result and to avoid future claims of bias this alone should see him removed from the decision making process.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
Expansion: great
Promotion and relegation: worried what happens should the Jets, Scum or other "small" team come last and get replaced by another capital city team. Jets would die if relegated to NPL.
I agree with this, expansion is much more important before we focus on promotion and relegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
In some government tenders, they list the percentage weighting that each criterion has on the final evaluation.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
That'd be going overboard here, though. For a decision like this, discretion is always going to play a biggish part. I'm okay with that ... though I worry about the FFA's competence/motives.
you mean 2nd division. We'll smash that comp...occasionallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
Correct...there has to be a professional second tier before promotion/relegation comes in.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Will be just like our English namesakes....up and down like the proverbial toilet seat.
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
The clubs in the NPL stream who are baying for a professional second tier need to be able to show that the second tier is financially feasible within the country first.
I don't think a lot of them truly understand the amount of money it would take to just travel with squads around the country every weekend. This is Australia, shit ain't cheap.
I'd rather see NPL play as normal through winter and then the winners of each member federation, instead of playing a meaningless "finals series", play a home and away comp in line with HAL during all or part of Summer.
This would actually push them to get their development streams in order, and build a strong second tier competition before we talk about Promotion/Relegation.
I really like this idea, wouldn't the NPL players get burnt out playing 3/4 of the year though?Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
There is a risk of that, but every year people carry on about NPL players not getting picked up by HAL teams and if they want to push that more and be considered to be professional rather than semi then it's a risk they need to take.Quote:
Originally Posted by cam
Also, if any of them were to make a move to Europe they'd be playing/hard training for about that amount of time anyway.
Second Division.
http://www.dscribe.net.au/2018/04/09...cond-division/
have to be east coast for cheap travel
Why is there this notion that its gotta be cost neutral, or even cost effective to run a club.
****spoiler alert**** running 'most' sporting clubs across the globe in all sports at all levels is a loss making exercise.
All we need is a bunch of ego fueled rich assholes to take on these project 2nd tier clubs and build them into something worthy (both on and off field) of entering the top flight comp.
Now, before you go bringing up the Tinkler and Palmer examples, let me remind you that they ultimately rebelled due to not having any power within the sport despite providing the money.
So give them a comp, give them the power (like the major US sports) and promise them promotion in 2, 5 or 10 years. Then tell the A-league teams relegation is happening and give them the power they need and watch them get their houses in order.
The FFA need to realise that with no money, and therefore no real power, that the quicker they get out of the way the quicker the sport can naturally evolve. Their bullshit is holding it all back.
We cant even get rich knobs to buy top flight let alone sloppy 2nds. low cost or will not happenQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Some light bulb salesman brought the stinking Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Anything is possible.
FFA just gotta give them a reason to do so.
couple of articles on the canberra bid
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...16-p4zflc.html
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...15-p4zfck.html
Canberra's bid will be in on the 24th, andQuote:
The FFA will shortlist applicants in June before entering the final stages of submissions, with an announcement on the successful bids to be made by October 31.
The Canberra bid will flop. The head is aloof and doing nothing to market it. The big clubs aren't involved, nor is Capital Football. What a shame.
What are you basing that on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
I live in Canberra, I play football here, and no one seems to know anything about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
It's a massive contrast to the previous, excellent bid, led by a well-known executive, which had the support of everyone from the government down and even had 2000+ paid-up members ($200 each). The FFA were utter fools for turning their noses at them.
Cheers. Interesting perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
Are they keeping their powder dry until they get a bit more certainty from FFA? Not investing too much because of past experiences?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
Correct me if i am wrong but i thought Capitol Football in % terms relevant to population had the highest number of registered female competitors in the land.
That is really unfortunate what you are saying and given those registered numbers would seem a real opportunity lost.
I'd love a road trip to Canberra for a game. To the 'gong for that matter too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380