At a guess so if someone sees a member, they can approach them and discuss something? Remember that not everyone is on the foz.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
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At a guess so if someone sees a member, they can approach them and discuss something? Remember that not everyone is on the foz.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
And so people know who the members are that are trying to represent their views to the club.
the eight of us are a pretty good cross section of the supporter base, and other than us saying that we figured a short bio on us all and group photo might help fans/members see more value in this process.
Is there a FB page for fans (who are not on ere) to communicate? cbf lookingQuote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
The club has set up the committee meetings as an "event" so fans can post concerns.
Jeterpool, Maria, Liam and I often approach people on Facebook to give them the chance to expand on their concerns.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1504495659828328/
We are hoping to have a greater presence out the front of the stadium on match days in some form.
The kick around thing went off. Was about 2000 out there having the time of their lives.
Good work getting it done.
Even strolled across the hallowed turf to take a short cut to the Tenzo
Cheers mate. Glad it was a successQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I get the feeling that the meeting without the club had a lot less BS than the meetings run by the club (just based on the minutes at least).
Any ideas on when the committee will become more independent? I noted that the attempt for the committee to become an actual 'committee' (rather than 'sub-committee' as the club likes to call you now) was shut down by the club, seemingly on the grounds that they want ultimate control of what is discussed, actions that are taken etc.
Maybe it needs to gain a bit more legitimacy through exposure to the broader members, but I envisage that at some point the whole club control thing is going to wear thin as the committee will want to discuss a wider range of issues than scarves and hats.
Wicked. Hope all the kids out there enjoyed it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Saved me about 100m walkQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Best thing ever
Agreed. But we are taking small sustainable steps, and the formal relationship is still young.Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
There was discussion about the structure of the committee, and frank views exchanged about being more than a focus group whose purpose has to become far more than a market research exercise.
Good to hear.
Definitely thinking longer term here. I think it will take some more time until the broader membership base acknowledges it as their legitimate representative. Obviously if you were take those steps now you'd run the risk of being too obscure to do any good.
Way about it is definitely to get the name of the committee out there more, and it looks like you're taking the right steps in that direction with the bios + presence on match day. kutgw.
Are the minutes a true representation.
Yes. I believe they are. We didn't get through the entirety of the topics which were planned for discussion, hence some answers have been added post meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
The presence on match days is something I really believe strongly in. I'm certainly willing to get there early and speak to people because at the moment all engagement is on line.Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
They're an accurate summary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
As Jeterpool said, there was a lot we didn't get to.
Having the agreement now that the mebers on the committe can stipulate three items for discussion is a step to having fans issues answered and not carried over.
much of the time spent in early part of the meeting on March2 was Murphy introdcuing himself and answering questions, prior to the meeting commencing
Next meeting coming soon.
Much of next meeting will focus on issues not discussed at the last due to time constraints.
Importantly the club have also allowed us to determine 3 agenda items.... That we need to submit prior to the meeting so that they can address them properly.
So, essentially the next meeting is 100% about fans issues.
If you'd like to flesh out some ideas not discussed on last agenda, or propose an issue for the inclusion as one of the three "new" issues sing out.
I'll summarise the issues not addressed..... Shortly.
For God sakes get rid of the ****ing PA
His job is to announce the squad and subs and that's it
And no more pre game music
Thanks guys
Can you also point out to them that the bloke on the mic was encouraging people to bring banners to the game pre game at the Pissant match.Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
I take what he said on board bring one to the game and for some reason were asking us to take it down??
WTF Can we get an explanation at this glaring inconsistency??
Sounds like Twitter: You Twit how much you love them and how great they are and you get 50 Re-twit, you get on the big screen, FB........etc......... you name it. But you ask something they don't want to hear and they send you to Siberia.............Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
F&^%$#g get rid of the PA all together ......put the team on the screen, and pretty sure we can all read.......Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
So will the fan issues not discussed last time be on the agenda first? if so when do new fan issues get discussed?Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Who decides which fan issues continually miss out on being discussed. is there a precedence of importance.
How long till after the meeting can issues be discussed? or are there security checks on what info can be discussed?
What happens to the issues that are never discussed but are still considered important?
The issues that are fobbed off by management do these become unimportant?
1. Not sure. As a committee we are planning to put to them the priority order of us discussed matters. The next meeting will be the first in which new issues from the fans have been guaranteed a spot on the agenda, (an important development) so where they fit on the agenda has yet to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
2. At this stage the chairperson. The last meeting was 2 and bit hours with MM understandably taking some time to introduce himself and answer questions. If not for this, all issues would have had time.
3. Issues relating to the scope of the meeting were discussed first, after matters arising.
4. No time limits have ever been set, no bag checks at the door. Both meetings have been open and we've never had "we can't/won't tell you", we have been asked to understand that at some point confidential matters may be discussed, and they are to remain confidential..... This hasn't happened yet...... Most likely in regards to sponsorship negotiations (I'm assuming)
5. We keep raising them.
6. No. See above.
Anything you'd like raised or fleshed out?
just a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Discussion of meeting takes place next day.
Trying to get the Jets in schools is my big one. Needs to be school visits, free tix & possibly gala days etc.
improving membership numbers is a retarded waste of time due to those two massive assholes in charge.
good luck.
I'm compiling a list of contacts to hand to the club, it's coming together .... Slowly.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Make players more accessible to media. In turn DEMAND players be more accessible to media, so that media WANTS to talk to them.
We always seem to accept that players from our major football codes seem to be given a pass for being condescending, belligerent and damn near uncooperative when dealing with the medium that connects them to the stakeholders (fans). Why accept that players are like that?
Club needs to look away from the footy codes and look more to sports like the V8 Supercars and pro surfing (esp the female surfers). Those 2 sports have by far the most engaging athletes in our country.
Media from all angles on the spectrum are always looking for more access to players. Take advantage of the demand, don't see a 3minute conversation with a radio guy as a chore, see it as a chance to sell yourself and your sport.
Players are getting bad advice cause for some reason when my kid talks to them at Dineaway ('sup Q-man) they are always cool and happy to chat yet act like mongs when talking to adults.
Get in their ear Benny Boy.
Oh, and legit **** that PA guy right off.
I am dead serious here.
For the last few years we have enjoyed cut price Membership.
As a result we have had large Membership Numbers
In the meantime we have had to endure cut price playing squads and cut price coaching and cut price administration
Can we pay a decent amount so we get
Quality Players
Quality Coaching
Quality Administration
The status quo isn't working
I tend to agree. I'd pay more if it was going to help the club run more professionally.
But with those still in charge of the shower of shite, they would only waste any surplus
You up the membership by anything more than 10$ and we will only have 2,000 members next year
If we'd just won the comp you could but when we have had the season from hell, the price is something you can't touch imo
I don't think the club give too much of a **** at what the members think/feel anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
They are Moving Forward into next season with the Muppet at the helm regardless despite the reality it will cost them 5-6k of Members and in spite the howls of derision at the Muppet.
The entire salary cap is covered by the TV grant, no club has any excuse for not delivering a half decent squad. You could argue the extra revenue could be used for marquee players but it would need to be a hell of an increase. The only other area that could help the first team would be to get a good manager but hey Tinks has his man so it's not needed.
Perhaps management could focus on getting a legitimate major sponsor instead.
I can't stress this enough for your guys next meeting but can we please scrap the PA
his job is to announce the squads and that's it.
Friday night was painful
it is not a knights game.
Amen to this. Sick of hearing him screeching on the mic.
And he is seemingly too ignorant to learn opposition players names when he does his one job. Can't even begin to figure out how to type the sounds he made whilst attempting to say Milos Dimitrijevic on Friday night. To his credit though, he nailed Vedran Janjetovic.Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
I will say I enjoyed when announcing "Goal, to Sydney FC" x4 he sounded as though someone had had eaten the last malteaser
Probably a wanderers fan. He apparently does the announcing at their games tooQuote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
Think he's a professional ground announcer. Was in Melbourne on the weekend and he was on the pa at the mcg. Was also on the online newy sports show the other weekQuote:
Originally Posted by furns
Can anyone shoot him?...Quote:
Originally Posted by northern_swan
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Originally Posted by GazFish35
here are the five topics from last meeting marked in the publicly available minutes as to be carried over.
https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws....tes2.03.15.pdf
1. Members of the sub-committee sit in a stand out the front of the stadium pre-game to become accessible to gain Members feedback
2. Building on success of the Asian Cup, migrant population that exist in Newcastle for growing the Supporter base
3. Grow an identity for Jet Man – Benny
4. Competition through local junior leagues voted best and fairest
5. Ground announcer fabricates atmosphere, crowd should grow organically
not sure what 4. is about - was submitted directly to the club by a fan.
Importantly we now get to set 3 agenda items from within the parameters of the sub-committee
• Active Support & Match Day Atmosphere
• Membership packages and entitlements
• Member communications
• Match Day experience and facilities
• Merchandise
committee members are currently discussing what three issues we'd like added to the agenda.
Clearly the PA situation is already on the agenda as items carried over.
I'm hoping to ask for some improvements in the communication of Tinkler and Stubbin's "vision" and their plan to see it be realised - so that we might be able to see it and believe it, rather than "vision" simply becoming the new "moving forward"
anything else?
MFKS - cost of memberships to support strengthening the club has been noted.
Plague - media training slash talking to adults training and access to media, also noted.