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08-10-2014, 04:30 PM
ForeverRed

cant believe the rubbish some clubs go on with in regards to NPL Youth, its developement, not trophy hunting for mum and dad
09-10-2014, 12:23 PM
Footyhead

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

cant believe the rubbish some clubs go on with in regards to NPL Youth, its developement, not trophy hunting for mum and dad

Well unfortunately that's the way it is. Case in point... this year's CCB U14s that won the GF are primarily from Macquarie Football. When they conducted trials around this time last year, the (then) current players trailed against the Macquarie players plus a few others. All but 2 of the current players were selected with the rest Macquarie except for one kid who was selected even though he didn't trial because he was injured... he was an Emerging Jet. The former CCB team made the grand final in 2012, narrowly missed the finals in 2013. They were a decent bunch of players and with DEVELOPMENT would have progressed well. Now those players are everywhere with some not even playing.
Also, the new coach was from Macquarie, coached the team that came over to replace the former team, dunno why they even held trials... may as well have told the former kids to piss off, they have a newer, better team to replace them.
09-10-2014, 03:41 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by Footyhead

Well unfortunately that's the way it is. Case in point... this year's CCB U14s that won the GF are primarily from Macquarie Football. When they conducted trials around this time last year, the (then) current players trailed against the Macquarie players plus a few others. All but 2 of the current players were selected with the rest Macquarie except for one kid who was selected even though he didn't trial because he was injured... he was an Emerging Jet. The former CCB team made the grand final in 2012, narrowly missed the finals in 2013. They were a decent bunch of players and with DEVELOPMENT would have progressed well. Now those players are everywhere with some not even playing.
Also, the new coach was from Macquarie, coached the team that came over to replace the former team, dunno why they even held trials... may as well have told the former kids to piss off, they have a newer, better team to replace them.

Bit of perspective here footyhead. The Macquarie players were finished at Macquarie. Over for them, they had to go back to a club. Many of them decided to stick together.......the coach, well he was just returning to a club he had played at and had allegiances with.
Trials last year were fair with several selectors, not just coach...........there was 4 watching............

The same thing happened other clubs............many Newcastle reps went to Olympic/Magic & Jaffa's...........Macquarie reps went to CCB, Edgeworth, Lake's.
Ex EJ players went to three different clubs so were scattered

And you would have to say that players who went to CCB developed over the year..........first game against Olympic they lost 5-0.......then 2nd round 1-0 than end of season won GF 2-1.......that shows progress.
The NPL was introduced last year and is a whole new concept for youth. The previous CCB team you refer to played what grade in 2012 ??? and what grade in 2013 ??

Anyway you will be happy to know that CCB held trials for 2015 U/15 last night, open trial advertised, not invite only as per some. Three selectors were present so everything was fair and there were changes............6 new faces from different clubs who by their own choice decided to try and better themselves by being part of a good team with a great coach.

So if thats trophy hunting so be it.............
09-10-2014, 03:45 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

like it or not, every club wants a quality team, however some clubs, that have plenty to say, dispose whole teams continually year on year, and others tick a box.
now that CCB missed some jets players, as it reads, they believe they deserved them? didnt you win the comp- why change at all...if you are that good.
nothing will ever change in Newy when it comes to football...forever red if you want a trophy, buy 1, there cheap.

Why change ??? because of progress MT, some kids move up.......EJ's some move on..........some kids want to come and join a club that had success so they could try and better themselves ...............that necessitates change
09-10-2014, 03:46 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

That's beautiful- i love Charlestown, they are so good- Tully has been a inspiration to the way the club is run.
well done- and good luck in season 2015

thanks...........
09-10-2014, 04:31 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

agree WB
however the comment regarding Magic last night etc etc, is that true?
i doubt kids were threatened, if we talk about threats, CCB also have requested fuul payments from players, NOW how isnt that a threat.
Pot calling the kettle black i think?????
Also maybe they want change, as well as Edgy, Adamstown, Weston, Lambton, Maitland, Olympic, FMNC and i yeah the Centre Of Excellence southy as well.
If we talk development,however how the hell some players were selected in the EJets for next year , and others i believe better were dropped, baffles me..
Good Luck- obviously coming last at Nationals is an achievemnet, positive was come last, best keepers in tournament, due to being busy

firstly about magic, to my knowledge yes its true and possibly worse now as kids are being asked to wait a few days for decision, whilst a select few have been secretly given spots, by this time other trials will be over

Full payments............well not till next week, but again I believe most clubs ask of this. In reality we have to pay at some time so this doesn't really bother me

Rest well I pretty much agree. Some baffling selections but change had to be made, Nationals was very poor display. It appears GVE's love of small midfielders continue at the expense of solid centre back.
Keepers...........well yeah, you get plenty of action you get the opportunity to impress, but still they did so must have played well. Lucky they took the Olympic keep...........
09-10-2014, 04:37 PM
Footyhead

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

Bit of perspective here footyhead. The Macquarie players were finished at Macquarie. Over for them, they had to go back to a club. Many of them decided to stick together.......the coach, well he was just returning to a club he had played at and had allegiances with.
Trials last year were fair with several selectors, not just coach...........there was 4 watching............

The same thing happened other clubs............many Newcastle reps went to Olympic/Magic & Jaffa's...........Macquarie reps went to CCB, Edgeworth, Lake's.
Ex EJ players went to three different clubs so were scattered

And you would have to say that players who went to CCB developed over the year..........first game against Olympic they lost 5-0.......then 2nd round 1-0 than end of season won GF 2-1.......that shows progress.
The NPL was introduced last year and is a whole new concept for youth. The previous CCB team you refer to played what grade in 2012 ??? and what grade in 2013 ??

Anyway you will be happy to know that CCB held trials for 2015 U/15 last night, open trial advertised, not invite only as per some. Three selectors were present so everything was fair and there were changes............6 new faces from different clubs who by their own choice decided to try and better themselves by being part of a good team with a great coach.

So if thats trophy hunting so be it.............

Thanks WB, I'm not so much having a go at the Macq kids or the coach and not saying it was the coach was the only selector, just feel sorry for the former CCB team who were superseded. FYI, prior to introduction of the NPL, they played in the A grade in 2012, 2013. As you say, the rep kids had to go somewhere. Magic's NPL 14s side did nothing this year YET their interdistrict 14A grade side killed it, won their comp easily, never lost a game.
09-10-2014, 04:47 PM
Footyhead

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

obviously coming last at Nationals is an achievemnet, positive was come last, best keepers in tournament, due to being busy

The 15s EJ squad for next year retains 10 EJ kids but includes 2 CCB and 2 Hamilton kids... some reward for the grand finalists. If CCB won the GF, how many of that winning team will be kept for next year... any idea WB ?
09-10-2014, 04:51 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by Footyhead

Thanks WB, I'm not so much having a go at the Macq kids or the coach and not saying it was the coach was the only selector, just feel sorry for the former CCB team who were superseded. FYI, prior to introduction of the NPL, they played in the A grade in 2012, 2013. As you say, the rep kids had to go somewhere. Magic's NPL 14s side did nothing this year YET their interdistrict 14A grade side killed it, won their comp easily, never lost a game.

Yes I get it, feel for those kids as well. But given only two made the NPL team did they have go elsewhere ??? could they have stayed U/14 A grade ?? I know quite a few went to Magic...who of course won the U/13A last year, so some CCB players wanted to better themselves.
Reality is that the Newcastle/Macquarie/Hunter/EJ kids all existed and vast majority had to go to club thru no choice of their own.

As for Magic U/14 NPL side doing nothing, bloody hell the teams that finished 4th to last must have been terrible, 3rd is pretty good in my eyes and yes they would play the pants of the 14A team. How many 14A making it into 15 NPL ?????
09-10-2014, 04:53 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by Footyhead

The 15s EJ squad for next year retains 10 EJ kids but includes 2 CCB and 2 Hamilton kids... some reward for the grand finalists. If CCB won the GF, how many of that winning team will be kept for next year... any idea WB ?

yes 10 kids retained from GF side, two up to EJ's, two didn't come back and unfortunately one lost his place in the trials.
09-10-2014, 04:57 PM
Footyhead

Thanks mate, good luck to next year, despite the politics and crap that goes on as with any club, there's some good kids in there throughout the teams
09-10-2014, 05:01 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by Footyhead

Thanks mate, good luck to next year, despite the politics and crap that goes on as with any club, there's some good kids in there throughout the teams

yeah agree with that, good comp, some good kids, will develop hopefully and club officials might see the benefit one day
09-10-2014, 05:03 PM
Footyhead

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

Yes I get it, feel for those kids as well. But given only two made the NPL team did they have go elsewhere ??? could they have stayed U/14 A grade ?? I know quite a few went to Magic...who of course won the U/13A last year, so some CCB players wanted to better themselves.
Reality is that the Newcastle/Macquarie/Hunter/EJ kids all existed and vast majority had to go to club thru no choice of their own.

As for Magic U/14 NPL side doing nothing, bloody hell the teams that finished 4th to last must have been terrible, 3rd is pretty good in my eyes and yes they would play the pants of the 14A team. How many 14A making it into 15 NPL ?????

The 2 that made the NPL didn't trial anywhere else and neither did any of the other former CCB kids as CCB held their trials earlier than most other clubs. As far as I know, only 2 kids went from CCB to Magic. Dunno about how many of this year's 14A Magic pushing in to next year's 15 NPL, but expect some would... given their success.
10-10-2014, 01:31 PM
hamburgler

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Originally Posted by Footyhead

The 2 that made the NPL didn't trial anywhere else and neither did any of the other former CCB kids as CCB held their trials earlier than most other clubs. As far as I know, only 2 kids went from CCB to Magic. Dunno about how many of this year's 14A Magic pushing in to next year's 15 NPL, but expect some would... given their success.

There is a big difference between the standard of football played in the 14 NPL this year and that played in the 14A comp.
10-10-2014, 01:58 PM
Footyhead

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Originally Posted by hamburgler

There is a big difference between the standard of football played in the 14 NPL this year and that played in the 14A comp.

In general terms, correct... many of the A grade players from last year went in to NPL along with players from the rep teams.
This year's A grade is pretty much last year's B grade.
The rep players have increased the standard of the NPL this year (which would have been A grade if the NPL not introduced).
Having said that, Magic's A grade team I think would be better than South Cardiff's NPL.
10-10-2014, 02:08 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by Footyhead

In general terms, correct... many of the A grade players from last year went in to NPL along with players from the rep teams.
This year's A grade is pretty much last year's B grade.
The rep players have increased the standard of the NPL this year (which would have been A grade if the NPL not introduced).
Having said that, Magic's A grade team I think would be better than South Cardiff's NPL.

your a funny man FH, most any team would have beat Southy U/14's this year. But i believe big changes at southy this year, so lets hope std of all clubs is on the rise
10-10-2014, 02:14 PM
Bremsstrahlung

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

But i believe big changes at southy this year, so lets hope std of all clubs is on the rise

That's it right? As long as clubs are actively engaging in improving themselves, we can't really cast aspersions.
10-10-2014, 03:09 PM
Why Blue

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

Magic's A grade, probably would beat the bottom 4-5 in NPL, just looking at there website, all Magic teams in juniors dominated

agree with that
10-10-2014, 03:46 PM
Bremsstrahlung

Who were the 17A minor premiers? :whistling:
10-10-2014, 03:52 PM
Bremsstrahlung

I get what you are saying (i think) and agree, Magic are a strong club... But I don't particularly agree with the comparisons between the "A-Grade" competition and NPL. They are vastly different.
I would also question the point of playing in these "Junior" teams (past say U14s) if the future goal is to play NPL...

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