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How can a board that is almost out of a job, (is this still happening even, or have fifa focussed on the World Cup now?) make this decision that will have huge ramifications on the future of the league and respective clubs.
Unless bid details are made public and assessed independently.
Isn't that why they brought in Deloittes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
can't get fireworks anymore. thought i'd make that clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
i'm less connected to the local football world down here, so i'll take your word on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
however, if the previous method didn't work, maybe this way will work. i don't think they are making enough noise about building from the w-league foundation though.
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Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Yes a trip to god's country would be nice. I would even go to to Canberra.
If they play at Manuka yeah I'll go, ain't trekking out to the AIS though.
These are the only publicly available datasets on boys and girls' participation rates by state and territory. They are from an Australian Bureau of Statistics survey in 2012. The Australian Sports Commission has more recent data but doesn't provide full public access to it.
These data represent participation in organised football only.
https://i.imgur.com/12bctOU.png
https://i.imgur.com/JWdoPVP.png
There are no data for indoor football for Victoria and the NT.
By the way, GVE left Canberra late last year :(
Do i get my gold star now Gary or do i get to run laps ?.
where's the data for Northern NSW?Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
also shows how Victoria shouldn't get any more teams, NNSW has more players than they do, we deserve a second team, preferably playing out of Maitland
imagine the Hunter derby - the train ride to Maitland would be immense
makes far more sense than Tasmania or NT
:rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
from king o'malleys you go to the civic hotel, then onto bentspoke brewery. after a couple there (craft beer, so bring your gold ingots) you move on to the RUC at turner, and then on to the duxton. you do have a bit of a hike from there to the stadium, but only about 600m further than doing the premier to the stadium. can go to stanley's near the stadium if you're running early.
if you go to manuka, it's pretty much 5km without a single drinking establishment to be found (ya gotta go through the parliamentary triangle).
or you just get on one of the free buses that they put on from the city centre to whichever stadium has a game on. if they both have a game, they even throw in a bus from manuka to GIO to get between the games.
huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
last time i was there i stayed in a dope hotel out one window was manuka the other window was the shadiest of shady pubs. so of course i went for a look.
place was great. everyone was feral as. my kind of people. most had their own teeth.
Kingston hotel.
if you havent been there for a coldie and a punch on Belchardo then you havent lived.
perfect Jets pregame shannanigans.
plus Trevillian quay is good for the posh lot like Hawk.
****ing magpies though. geez. now theres a royal commission that needs to be had.
have been there many a time. have managed to avoid the fights though.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
was working on the assumption you'd be staying in the city.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ncial-concerns
brisbane strikers out
This data clearly shows that Victoria are kidding themselves if they think they deserve another team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
Maybe they should focus more energy into getting the participation rates up since they seem to claim they have the largest NPL clubs in the Country.
It also shows why ACT and Tasmania bids would be so successful if you apply the logic for clubs growing their own Junior elite schemes.
well, yes and no. i assume the %ages shown are the proportion of the state population that plays football. therefore, Victoria's 15% = just under 1,000,000 against Tasmania's total population of 520K or ACT's 410K. however, if you take into account the two Vic teams already, 1 team per 500K would justify the ACT/Tas inclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
Wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
So where in Canberra is considered 'in the city'?
Is Manuka the burbs?
For some reason this genuinely interests me.
Civic and Acton are (in my opinion anyway) the city. Kingston is in the inner south - it cannot be considered in the city as there's a dirty great big lake in between the two. also, it shouldn't take an hour to get from the city to anywhere after 10pm, and having done that walk many a time because the buses have stopped running, it bloody well does!Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Well that saves on starting a thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
You don't need to be a genius to recognize the cards are being stacked on this issue to favor one particular expression of interest for inclusion. The other groups / clubs expressing interest know this but are clearly afraid to say too much on the record.
Given Southern Expansion have Chinese backing and have also given a commitment of sorts to build there own stadium at Loftus they are a dead cert unfortunately.
Was just reading something on fox about the expansion.
Apparently this is the first season since 2013 that either of the top 2 teams hasn’t made the grand final.
Sydney and City really fell short didn’t they.
FFS.
Other points include proposed play each other twice, not three times.
International breaks.
FFA Cup weekend and a longer final series
Haha... that's good for us, they still haven't taken notice, let's hope they keep doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Playing each team twice is not a bad idea: that would amount to 22 games in the first phase (with a 12 teams competition).
Then, they could split the comp in two: the first 6 and the last 6 play each other twice, 10 more games and the first one in the ladder is the winner, no playoffs or GF. 10 more games, a total of 32 for the season.
Canberra has Mooseheads = give them a spot
They done something like that in the NSL just before it diedQuote:
Originally Posted by mic22
It was absolute garbage and didnt work then
Early into the final series it was all over
Complete waste of time the rest of it
Someone in Canberra stabbed a wombat.
Canberra doesn't deserve a team.
There was a game between Newcastle and Northern Spirit in this 10 game 'finals series' that the Member speaks of. The game was washed out (i think?). Anyway, the game was meant to be replayed at a later date, but in the end the result wasn't going to affect anything, so they didn't play the game at all. Was a bit of a farce.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
oh so you're saying it will fit perfectly with the A-League then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swifts
so just to clarify the dates
24 May - closing date for expressions of interest
June - shortlist from the eoi submissions
11 June - Request for Proposals
31 August - closing date for proposals
31 October - Announcement
1 November - media and internet shitstorm
That's generous timing between the two. I expect shitstorms between every step.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
Halloween - wonderful timing.
When 1 club in the Strikers have pulled out already based on their non happyness with the criteria or more correctly the FFAs lack of a proper process it shows what we have on our hands hereQuote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
A ****ing farce where it is already pre done
So the SE Sydney side is 1
Who is the other the FFA are letting in.
Bet you it not South Melbourne as they have no interest at FFA HQ to mend any relationships with the ethnic element in this country
Yep. The way i am seeing things or more importantly how the other Expression of Interest clubs are interpreting things is they know the existing clubs will not want to divvy up what $$$$$$ has already been agreed upon from the last round of funding/sponsorship/rights deals so FFA will be keen to bring in clubs who can cover that initial handicap. My understanding and happy to be corrected if wrong but the next round is a few years away yet so FFA looking to introduce clubs with enough of there own money. This is why that cluster hybrid Southern Expansion will get a run, Gallop on the record for last few years about this being his preference and the groups alleged bottomless pit of Chinese Money to support them financially. FFA had there minds made up a long time ago and has just been a matter of the timing IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
What is the Member's ethnicity?
anyone out there who doesnt understand that this is the one and only criteria that matters is a sucker.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
finally the Double-Eff-Aye is bringing the right people into the market.
Community clubs stink and are for poor people.
I understand your point... but we already have "meaningless" games with the current format.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Also, in the vast majority of the football world, playoffs do not exist - which can lead to the winner being decided with 10 games to go, and to "meaningless" games, yes, yet it's very unlikely you'll ever see an empty stadium even if neither of the teams are fighting for relegation.
What was the attendance for the Sydney semifinal?
I also get the feeling that we'll end up with an odd number of teams and a bye round
just seems like exactly the sort of cock up the double effay excel at
bidz are in.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...24-p4zhda.html
would love Canberra and Tassie, but i suspect we will get Southern Expansion and one of the Qld bids.Quote:
ACT: Canberra.
NSW: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown).
QUEENSLAND: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich.
SOUTH AUSTRALIA: West Adelaide.
TASMANIA: State-wide.
VICTORIA: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure.
WESTERN AUSTRALIA: Fremantle City.
Like to see Wolves and Canberra but yeh we will get Southern Bitsa sadly and probs Ipswich.
Gold Coast def.
Fastest growing area in Oz, cant fail.