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08-12-2014, 12:07 PM
plague

I thought BK didn't have a very good game but all his cock ups were nowt to do with the goals.
08-12-2014, 12:09 PM
belchardo

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Originally Posted by plague

I thought BK didn't have a very good game but all his cock ups were nowt to do with the goals.

fullbacks keeping players onside/not shutting them down was more critical
08-12-2014, 12:27 PM
Premy

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Originally Posted by plague

Goal 1: so he is one on one with the top scorer in the league and he's rubbish coz he got beat. Maybe he should have been more like Biraz and run out of the box and grabbed it.
Dickheads.
Goal 2: got a good hand to a stinging shot and maybe hoped one of his defenders might have helped out to try and stop that stinking Gypos' 4 attempts to tap it in.
Goal 3: legit, some of you blokes are ****ing retarded.

Truth bombs
08-12-2014, 01:15 PM
Jetmaster

Birraz out of top echelon of Socceroos keepers now.

And BK from 30 metres>>>>>>>>>Birraz from 50 metres !
08-12-2014, 01:34 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

Birraz out of top echelon of Socceroos keepers now.

And BK from 30 metres>>>>>>>>>Birraz from 50 metres !

Pffft. At least Biraz got both hands, chest, knees, one of his shins, a thigh and part of his face to that 50m bomb. BK got nothing, nowhere near it.

Biraz <><><><><><><> BK
08-12-2014, 05:31 PM
MFKS

3 GOALS 5 MINUTES

Great Goal Keeping.

If Birraz gets dropped for letting 4 in a half despite making a few saves and having **** all Assistance from his defense and it being a constant turkey shoot at him then only fair BK gets the flick for that effort of no being able to keep the ball out of his net the 3 times he was called on to deal with it in a 5 min spell.

TRUTH BOMB
08-12-2014, 05:39 PM
Tommyjet

The least of our troubles at the moment
08-12-2014, 05:40 PM
WolfMan

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Originally Posted by plague

Goal 1: so he is one on one with the top scorer in the league and he's rubbish coz he got beat. Maybe he should have been more like Biraz and run out of the box and grabbed it.
Dickheads.
Goal 2: got a good hand to a stinging shot and maybe hoped one of his defenders might have helped out to try and stop that stinking Gypos' 4 attempts to tap it in.
Goal 3: legit, some of you blokes are ****ing retarded.

Me agree
08-12-2014, 05:52 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by MFKS

3 GOALS 5 MINUTES

Great Goal Keeping.

If Birraz gets dropped for letting 4 in a half despite making a few saves and having **** all Assistance from his defense and it being a constant turkey shoot at him then only fair BK gets the flick for that effort of no being able to keep the ball out of his net the 3 times he was called on to deal with it in a 5 min spell.

TRUTH BOMB

1st thing: it was 5 min and 11sec apparently so MYTH BUSTED.

2nd: I don't know anyone who thought Biraz should have been dumped after the 4-0. Most 'round ere (myself included) thought he wasn't at fault for any of the goals.

Biraz's cock ups game in earlier games. BK has had a few but didn't directly lead to goals.

Yet.
08-12-2014, 08:10 PM
Imyourhero

Because no goalkeeper has ever let in a goal from 30yards
09-12-2014, 12:11 PM
idontwannaplaywithhowey

I thought BK was pretty poor on the weekend, but as has been said Biraz got more than a few chances to overcome some poor goalkeeping efforts in the earlier rounds. I'm definitely in the Biraz is a better goalkeeper camp, but if Stubbins is going to be consistent BK deserves more time to stake a claim (or not) to be a permanent fixture in the team.
09-12-2014, 12:18 PM
pv4

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Originally Posted by idontwannaplaywithhowey

I thought BK was pretty poor on the weekend, but as has been said Biraz got more than a few chances to overcome some poor goalkeeping efforts in the earlier rounds. I'm definitely in the Biraz is a better goalkeeper camp, but if Stubbins is going to be consistent BK deserves more time to stake a claim (or not) to be a permanent fixture in the team.

But BK is most likely to stay regardless of how he is treat. Biraz won't.

So people are saying that they're happy for a coach they want out, to piss off a player that could leave due to being benched that is better than the player replacing him, for a player who isn't performing any better and will more than likely stay regardless.

If Stubbins plays Biraz, there's a chance he won't leave at the end of this year (or in Jan). If Stubbins doesn't, he'll pretty much definitely leave. So there's a choice between losing our coach and our best keeper, or just losing our coach.
09-12-2014, 12:28 PM
plague

Yeah but if Biraz leaves we'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I reackon Middleby might be able to get $40-$50 thousand for him.
09-12-2014, 12:35 PM
pv4

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Originally Posted by plague

Yeah but if Biraz leaves we'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I reackon Middleby might be able to get $40-$50 thousand for him.

Or he does what most HAL players do, put his bum in the corner, demand a termination of contract, and end up at Brisbane.
09-12-2014, 12:46 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by pv4

Or he does what most HAL players do, put his bum in the corner, demand a termination of contract, and end up at Brisbane.

Pfffffft. 'Sif Middleby would get sucked into that.
09-12-2014, 01:18 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by plague

Yeah but if Biraz leaves we'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I reackon Middleby might be able to get $40-$50 thousand for him.

If you are talking along the lines that Middleby would be able to get 40-50k Australian $$$ for the release of Birraz you are deadest talking out of your arse Plague.

This humidity/heat is obviously effecting your judgement big time

You of all people should know Middleby is more than happy to give our players away for free.
Hello Ryan Griff
09-12-2014, 01:24 PM
GazFish35

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Originally Posted by pv4

But BK is most likely to stay regardless of how he is treat. Biraz won't.

So people are saying that they're happy for a coach they want out, to piss off a player that could leave due to being benched that is better than the player replacing him, for a player who isn't performing any better and will more than likely stay regardless.

If Stubbins plays Biraz, there's a chance he won't leave at the end of this year (or in Jan). If Stubbins doesn't, he'll pretty much definitely leave. So there's a choice between losing our coach and our best keeper, or just losing our coach.

that's assuming he's our best keeper.
09-12-2014, 01:34 PM
pv4

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

that's assuming he's our best keeper.

Which you, and the large majority of everyone else, has agreed on.
09-12-2014, 02:38 PM
WolfMan

I wouldn't say overall he is better than BK. I feel like their individual weaknesses bring them back to a par. And if one par is on more $ than the other ( and by a good amount I'm certain) why not jettison the ballast?
09-12-2014, 02:42 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by WolfMan

I wouldn't say overall he is better than BK. I feel like their individual weaknesses bring them back to a par. And if one par is on more $ than the other ( and by a good amount I'm certain) why not jettison the ballast?

And if one par is already at his greatest ever peak and the other has huge upside, just needs to get the right coaching...?

Actually, scratch that. Bin off Biraz for the sake of Australian football and let him get someone who knows what they are doing to teach him. He'll never be any good staying here.
09-12-2014, 02:47 PM
The Dunster

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Originally Posted by plague

Yeah but if Biraz leaves we'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I reackon Middleby might be able to get $40-$50 thousand for him.

On what planet would any club be paying that sort of coin for young flappy hands ?
09-12-2014, 03:01 PM
plague

Ahhhhhhhhhh, but you discount the selling skills of the snake oil man Middleby.

Ice to Eskimos etc etc etc.
09-12-2014, 03:06 PM
plague

Also, how is that whole 'opinion of the national team manager' argument angle going lads?
Did see either of our keepers names on the 784 man provisional squad.
09-12-2014, 03:12 PM
pv4

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Originally Posted by plague

Also, how is that whole 'opinion of the national team manager' argument angle going lads?

Let me check the stamps in Biraz's passport.
09-12-2014, 03:47 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by plague

Also, how is that whole 'opinion of the national team manager' argument angle going lads?
Did see either of our keepers names on the 784 man provisional squad.

Remind us when BK made any provisional squad for the NT???

Birraz just another victim of the shit coaching at the club.
09-12-2014, 03:51 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Remind us when BK made any provisional squad for the NT???

Birraz just another victim of the shit coaching at the club.

Not counting U20 and Olyroo duty?
09-12-2014, 03:54 PM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Not counting U20 and Olyroo duty?

Ffs they called Hoffman up at that level so that is no form line
09-12-2014, 04:30 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by pv4

Let me check the stamps in Biraz's passport.

live in the now man.
09-12-2014, 04:32 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Remind us when BK made any provisional squad for the NT???

Birraz just another victim of the shit coaching at the club.

I dunno, probs never. What's the answer?
Also, what's the relevance?
Maybe we should change thread title to include Covics name as he's our most decorated keeper yeah?
09-12-2014, 05:00 PM
outsider

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Originally Posted by plague

Yeah but if Biraz leaves we'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I reackon Middleby might be able to get $40-$50 thousand for him.

How is he going to get 40-50k for a keeper that isn't even number one in the club.
09-12-2014, 05:23 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by outsider

How is he going to get 40-50k for a keeper that isn't even number one in the club.

How many times have I got to learn you blokes.
We have Middleby in charge.
He's our generations Tim the Demtel Man.

I heard once he sold our leading striker for an 'undisclosed fee'.
I'm sure it was undisclosed because he's modest and didn't want to embarrass the other CEO's out there.
10-12-2014, 08:07 AM
MFKS

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Originally Posted by plague

How many times have I got to learn you blokes.
We have Middleby in charge.
He's our generations Tim the Demtel Man.

I heard once he sold our leading striker for an 'undisclosed fee'.
I'm sure it was undisclosed because he's modest and didn't want to embarrass the other CEO's out there.

Difference is Tim the Demtel man actually had the ability to sell something. May well only been steak knives but at least they are useful
Middleby on the other hand is only capable of selling misery/embarrassment/apathy/disgust in spades to our loyal supporters for their time/money they invest in this club

I will take the steak knives every day of the week
10-12-2014, 08:08 AM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by plague

He's our generations Tim the Demtel Man.

FFS, the amount you blokes hate him he just has to reach over his shoulder to get a set of steak knives to throw into any potential deal.
10-12-2014, 12:52 PM
pv4

Has this been discussed at all? If so, think I missed it. Last month Biraz changed agents. To me that says he's actively looking for a move.

Surely a Euro club would be crazy not to wait until the end of our season, to save paying a transfer fee. Unless our CEO wants to give him to them for free, of course.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sp...-agent-switch/
10-12-2014, 01:06 PM
Disinterested Bystander

Did he not extend to the end of the 15-16 season? In which case he won't walk away at the end of this season for free.
10-12-2014, 01:19 PM
plague

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Originally Posted by Grimario

FFS, the amount you blokes hate him he just has to reach over his shoulder to get a set of steak knives to throw into any potential deal.

I don't hate him.
I don't say nasty things about him.
I just don't agree with the way he manages this club.
10-12-2014, 01:24 PM
Grimario

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Originally Posted by plague

I don't hate him.
I don't say nasty things about him.
I just don't agree with the way he manages this club.

Who cares. The point I was making was about stabbing him in the back and perfect opportunity to get the steak knives out and sell them, a la Tim Demtel.

FWIW, I think he does a shit job too.

Regards,
Captain Fantastic
10-12-2014, 01:35 PM
pv4

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Originally Posted by Disinterested Bystander

Did he not extend to the end of the 15-16 season? In which case he won't walk away at the end of this season for free.

You're right, my bad!

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/...the-Jets/76457
10-12-2014, 04:08 PM
plague

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimario

Who cares. The point I was making was about stabbing him in the back and perfect opportunity to get the steak knives out and sell them, a la Tim Demtel.

FWIW, I think he does a shit job too.

Regards,
Captain Fantastic

You know the Member is stealing your material right?
Lawyer up brah, you getting PAID!!!!
20-12-2014, 01:25 AM
pv4

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Originally Posted by pv4

Has this been discussed at all? If so, think I missed it. Last month Biraz changed agents. To me that says he's actively looking for a move.

Surely a Euro club would be crazy not to wait until the end of our season, to save paying a transfer fee. Unless our CEO wants to give him to them for free, of course.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sp...-agent-switch/

Following up on this, after the game tonight Biraz was spotted with Vinnie in town.

BK fanbois might get what they want - Biraz not at the club at all. And possibly soon.

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