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The hell is Belgravia Leisure?
sounds def like a money laundering operation.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
therefore im all for it.
Forza Belgravia!!!!
http://belgravialeisure.com.au/Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
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Belgravia Leisure connects community to leisure. What does this mean?
To everyday people, this means that they can enjoy our swim, fitness, sporting and leisure services regardless of their physical ability, financial capacity, cultural background or stage of life.
To governments and owners of recreational facilities, this means they can be confident that everyone in their local communities has an equal opportunity to access services or further their careers at their centres.
- Aquatic and fitness clubs
- Sports stadiums
- Golf courses
- Day spas and wellness retreats
- Events and hospitality centres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...;v=LFyl06gz94A
Fremantle City
looks like they've started their bid already (from their Stadium Sports page):Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
http://belgravialeisure.com.au/tt?sr...pg&w=650&h=400
https://www.weareteam11.com/
Team 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=EwoT3GjOe4E
and oh my god, they've got Ljubo in the video! give 'em the spot now.
Poor - you could revoice that vid and change a couple of slides and use it as a bid for any club.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
Would take 20 mins.
That's an impressive video. On the surface, a much greater effort that the Fremantle City FC by comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
The data on the demographic and appearance of collaboration and unity between local clubs and council is a strong selling point.
As a neutral, that certainly sparks my interest.
We've experienced the pitfalls of signing players based on videos - now we are signing entire clubs. Have we not learned anything over the past ten years ?
The video would form part of a broader submission. I'd really hope they're reading the proposals the clubs are submitting.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
here is a simple idea
there's been 15 bids for the A-league
the double effay should cut Wellington, take the top three bids and make a 12 team A-League
the remaining 12 are invited to form the A2-League, with promotion and relegation to happen after some initial settling period
Now now Boz, this is the FFA we are talking about. No room for common sense here!Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
Perfect except keep Wellington and kick South Melbourne out but keep everyone else then gallop fronts the press saying hes got no beef wif Efniks.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
Ah yes, but being in the second division changes the financial modelling and some of these submissions probably will say A-League or nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
I'm assuming the A2 league will have a ready made sponsor in that case... :popcorn: (still won't buy their milk though ;) )
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
Serious issue here
This 2nd division mythological idea.
Considering the basic financial issues of it and the costs to send a 2nd division team all over the country etc
Going to have to allow clubs to spend what they see fit.
This is the reality of it if it ever going to happen
This being the case the simplest way for it to occur
Is to remove the Minimum spend and maximum spend of the Salary Cap in the HAL
Let the Gypos be as povo as they like.
Once you do this then there is **** all need for the FFA criteria of x amount sponsorship and all the other BS they are putting on these bids
A second division can be created quickly
To me the biggest thing holding up a 2nd division is the FFA and the exxessive level of control they are putting on HAL ownership and the salary cap
Both have to go
Australia is a tricky place for sport. As a general rule, sport in Australia is the complete opposite to football around the word, with exception of perhaps USA.
Australian sports fans want to see finals series. It’s a success in terms of marketing and fan engagement.
Salary caps in Australia create sustainability imo. Which is important here. But it means we fall behind in world wide competition.
I actually don’t see too much of a problem with salary cap. I think they could build in a few more loopholes to attract quality players. But if we abolish salary cap, Sydney and Melbourne teams will flourish. Clubs in non capitals will be left with dreggs of players and they can’t compete and we end up with a la liga situation when every year it’s between 2 clubs. Maybe 3.
At least now there’s definitive ebbs and flows of teams being successful and rebuilding for years.
If we got relegated one year, we sure as hell wouldn’t put enough long term effort in to be promoted. I for one am grateful that our status in the a league is more or less a certainty.
The game needs to develop, and finding a sustainable way to do so is important. Learning from mistakes from failed NSL competitions is important.
In a 1 league closed shop set up like the HAL is you can get away with havinbg a salary capQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
If you are going to go 2 divisions and bring in promotion and relegation I cant see how you can persevere with it
Promotion Relegation is a system to allow success and innovation with advancement and punish malasise lazyness and poor planning with relegation
A Salary Cap would only be hindering clubs from finding their place
In a 1 comp set up you can have it but as soon as you looking at 2 divisions it has to go
they've won 7/13 with your stupid rules in place anyway.Quote:
Sydney and Melbourne teams will flourish
the quicker the Double-Eff-Aye play on the egos of mega rich assholes and let them spend their way to the top (starting in the 2nd div) the quicker the A-League grows.
Rich assholes who own sports teams dont look to break even/make a profit on their year to year operations. they look to increase the value of their franchise by growing the whole damn pie. serious America is right there as a template. why do these idiots at HQ make it so damn hard on themselves.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...25-p4zhlb.html
FFA may not be able to run a competition, but they are world class at distraction and teasing.
http://www.westernmelbourne.com/anno...uncil-support/
Just go to 14 teams, play each other twice 26 rounds.
Get rid of the Nix, we need teams that are ready to go now. Not oh yeah give us a spot we promise we'll do this and that.
-Tassie
-South Melbourne
-Canberra
-Wollongong Wolves
-Western Pride
Pipe Dream 2nd Division, 12 teams play each other twice 22 rounds
If these consortiums are serious then set them up in second division, spend your cash build your stadium and gain promotion.
-Northern Fury
-Brisbane Strikers
-Brisbane City
-Gold Coast United
-Sydney 1
-Sydney 2
-Sydney 3
-Team IX
-Melboure Knights
-Western Melbourne
-West Adelaide
-Fremantle
Get rid of the finals have a league cup played midweek over the 2 divisions with the final to be played the week after the leagues finish.
I know Pipedream.
South Melbourne were a very strong club many years ago - but they are nothing special these days. They would be smashed if they had to compete in the A-league for a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Tasmania is no different to Wellington with respect to travel and being somewhere nobody would want to go to play.
Wollongong Wolves - Not sure if they could make it financially.
Western Pride - again not seeing why Queensland would / should get another go given past failures.
I like the 2nd division idea - but until the FFA gets sorted or the teams can broker their own TV / merchandising rights I'm not sure how they'd go financially either give costs of travel and so on.
Interesting to see that Stadium the Soccerroos played in last night
Commentators saying cost 27 million
So why we need to play in 30k stadia?
Wow, that's about 1 million per seat :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Did they say it held 6-8k?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
8K expandable to 13K according to wikipedia.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
It really the way ahead for this code and hopefully the pea brains at FFA and the clubs start to realise it.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Proper football ground
Properly proportioned to the crowds
Went to a game in Thailand the other month.
Steel stands
No seats
You stood or sat
Your call
Was right on top of the ground so the view was quality
Yet we spend hundreds of millions on grounds in this country for what??
For the money we spend we get **** all value
I agree, I’m all for the smaller purpose-built football stadiums and not these larger monstrosities that try to cater for 12 different sports, meanwhile acting as a desolate wasteland for 95% of games.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...29-p4zi5c.html
bit of a nothing story, but a few points of note.
4 to 6 teams to be shortlisted and announced on monday - unless of course they have forgotten it is a long weekend.
CBF linking to anything, but the Canberra bid seems to have strengthened a lot in a month. It's drawn in some better people who weren't involved previously. It now has the support of Capital Football and (I think) the ACT government.
Most interestingly, it's adopted a Bundesliga-style community-ownership model. So the club will always be 51% owned by members. I think this will work in Canberra. It's a pretty rich place; much higher disposable income levels in this city than elsewhere in Australia, even if the private sector isn't huge.
so the shortlist is supposed to come out tomorrow
any idea how short a list it'll be? or are they determining that based on the bids?
It was meant to come out yesterday: 11 June. Well done, FFA.
local ABC in canberra reporting that the announcement has been delayed by a week (is anybody surprised?). also said 4-6 are expected to be shortlisted.
Farquing hell: the FFA didn't even tell the bids its decision would be delayed.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...11-p4zkq1.html
Delay would be due to FFA officials being on the Russia gravy train this week.
OrQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
They dont know what they are doing and making it up as they going
This is a shotgun marriage of convenience anyway
It not like it was a well thought out idea where they have identified a market buttered it up for a year or so and then looked to exploit.
****s are juyst throwing darts in the dark blindfolded hoping it works
I prefer to think of it as the FFA reassessing their two team figure in wake of the huge number of bids.
Ahhahah
That is because the game is being run by a Daddy's boy and a bloke shown up for his inabilities at this level in another code.Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous