😱 what other clubs outside Magic are signing players that didn’t come from net or SAP? How dare they do that. 🙃Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Carl
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😱 what other clubs outside Magic are signing players that didn’t come from net or SAP? How dare they do that. 🙃Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Carl
Jesus this forum is becoming a joke
Ive been amazed by the crap that has been written back and forth by keyboard warriors to simply make themselves feel important. To bring this back to something which may actually assist in improving the program for the KIDS and COACHES.
What do you dislike or is a great benefit of the program?
Likes
After following since 9s I feel the base skills have improved considerably of the boys.
Splitting of the competition last year into tiers
Dislikes
Disregard of rules and safety of players during games (dangerous fouls, abuse of referees and players by parents) which cannot be policed while impartial referees are not used.
yeah without wanting to get into any more finger pointing, im not sure neutral refs are gonna stop dickheads being dickheads. as discussed before, a better presence from NNSW (esp at the facility) talking to refs pre-match and stepping in if they see any bullshit going on would prob be just a big a benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
on that though, and we've all got 'stories' about it, but ive been really impressed with the coaches, parents and players. the scene is really good and as they get older the kids are all getting to know their opponents, and build relationships with other clubs. there isnt any of that old school 'hatred' that a lot of the older generation probably pine for. there are some really super talented kids out there and it would be awesome to see them in Jets colours (or better) in the future.
Likes- quality of players, better quality of games once grouped 2nd half of season, coaches and training is of high standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
Dislike- no refs agree, parents coaching kids from sidelines but I’m sure that’s common in every sport and biggest dislike is the rego costs, could be a bit cheaper for say some parents that don’t have a spare $1000 sitting around for under 10s football.
[QUOTE=Yaa Yaa;232868]Likes- quality of players, better quality of games once grouped 2nd half of season, coaches and training is of high standard.
Completely agree with this comment. But yet I hate how our kids are split into an A and B team. They are close in ability but yet still cant match Olympic and Magic in "Football" tactics and structure. We may have won some games against them but we didn't "outfootball" them. Rather rushed a mistake of theres or capitalized on their boys trying something new. Their boys don't seem to be of any great quality but yet their game play is so much better. Some clubs which made the top half have significant gaps between the A and B teams and surely 2 teams which lose 3 nil each week raises the standard of the club/players ability through the season rather than 1 winner and 1 who are completely demolished.
Likes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
How much Jr enjoys it.
Quality of the coaching & players (opponents and teammates)
The amount of training and games. The more football the better for players development IMO, plus Jr hates the days where there is no football.
The pathway from SAP-Youth-NPL being more structured.
Dislikes:
Cost
NNSWF’s poor oversight, especially at the facility.
Parents having to be game leaders.
Teams were loosely graded therefore some teams eg B teams werent competitive and the grading was based on the U10s and the 9s followed suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
Agree that A & B teams should at least be kept at similar strength.
Been told bout some problems with SAP at Valo. Coaches, parents inc Robbie Middleby not happy & now club need new SAP coach.
multiple coaches across age groups or just a particular coach?Quote:
Originally Posted by YewYew
because ive heard a couple of clubs havent announced all their coaches yet either. nothing nefarious from what i understand just some people stepping down or changing teams within the clubs. especially in the older age group having a new coach now who may be be as experienced of knowledgeable may be an issue for the program.
Only got told bout 1 coach in particular, but they said other problems with SAP management at the clubQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
They have advertised for a new coach for next season - however prob best not names. I very much doubt that RM is involved as his son has moved to Newcastle Olympic for next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by YewYew
I have no idea what the background is behind any of this.
If its last years SAP U10s Top Team. You will understand why he has been removed. Consistent issues all year and multiple complaints raised with NNSW and valo directly. One club removed there team from the field against them. He appeared to have no interest or ability in developing the kids. Only winning and encouraged basic direct football where the team only rushed every ball with very little thought.
That's my 2 cents anyway
He's probably gone to Magic then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
lol true. But being direct on occasion is ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
if its the bloke im thinking of the football is not the problem. hes got some good players who have skill and are good kids, his tactics can be 'uncoached' pretty quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negative Police
i def have a problem the way he treats his own players and the officials though. that shit gonna get old real quick. he aint good enough or smart enough for any club to want him wearing their tracksuit.
Not sure if Dontknowmuch and negative police are just fishing or actually clueless 🤷*♂️ Maybe their bums are still red raw from the spankings they copped. Would you like some chips with all that salt 🧂
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wrong again long ballQuote:
Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa
We got you guys but im not gonna care or be that overbearing immature parent spouting how good 9 10 or 11 yo kids are.
You really shouldnt be around kids sport.
Anyone heard any info about formats for next year yet? We're almost sure it's going to be 1 game instead of 2.
Heard the exact same details. No confirmation yet though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negative Police
I was told it’s 1 60min game next season.
we were told its all but confirmed but NNSW still hasnt confirmed it.
which sounds about right.
Some SAP fings I was told this week -
- Wallsend u9s selected 3 goalkeepers for there one team. One kid 7 yrs. Coach also a keeper
- Magic gonna train at Speers Point 2 times a week. Parents gonna be pissed
- Jaffas gonna run there own tsp for good kids who don’t make real tsp
- Cookers and Olympic v strict on ages - only 9 yrs kids can play in u9s. Magic / Edgy have lot of 8yrs kids in there new u9s
- New field at Speers Point now in but no line marking for sap. Kids still gonna have to use pizzas for area. Northern happy to take sap money but refuse to give kids proper pitch.
Can confirm the first. In SAP it is selective - no idea on numbers. In NPL Yth they are doing the same but all players will be welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by YewYew
Not surprised at the second. The single most disappointing thing about SAP IMO is NNSWF lack of attention and support for it.
Yes, I saw the new pitch last week and it’s lined out for a full size pitch. I hadn’t thought about it until now, but you are right - it would be very easy to put in penalty boxes in each half and make it much clearer for SAP games. Considering they’ll be lots more games with 9-11 SAP this year - plus more SAP training on those fields - it would make a lot of sense. I wonder if NNSW have even considered this??Quote:
Originally Posted by YewYew
i dont understand this. so the one team of 11's they have is gonna get sliced again so the bestest of the bestest get more training?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegon
With only one team chances are theyll all get a ticketQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
You’d have to guess some of that team are already in the TSP so I think you’re right that the rest will be invited along. But if you don’t get invited, you can probably take that as a message that more is expected of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Are parents of kids in 10/11 SAP being told they need to buy kids new kits again this year???? hearing some clubs now got sponsorship for training kits but instead of using that $$$ to lower fees or pay for kits parents having to pay for it :wtf:
If fees are reduced, who pays for the ridiculous payments some of these first grade players are receiving?
It is crazy what players are being paid in a competition that is at best NPL4 in Sydney.
How many NPL clubs actually embody their SAP players in their Club? Or are they just a necessary part of being an NPL Club and an additional revenue stream?
All our kit is included in the SAP fee and has been since day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by YewYew
New kit has been required every year due to
A) New players joining the squad every year.
B) Our kids growing out of their existing kit. Plague Jnrs stuff from last year hardly fits now and def won't get him through til September 2020.
Our club trains in their playing kit so as not to need 'extra' expense on more stuff.
Extra washing to do but that's kind of a first world problem.
Are the kids allowed to wear the strip of teams or countries they support to training? I had Wolverhampton, England Home / Away, and Man U - today kids would have much better access to these things and I'd guess they'd be a lot more affordable now as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
SAP kit is required to train in.
There is actually an emphasis on player presentation be it uniform, combed hair, shoelaces, punctuality etc as these players need to learn about self respect and being ambassadors for their clubs.
It's a small thing but i think its a good thing to develop their attitudes as well as their footballing skills.
You don't fear that it will sap the creativity out of them ? Or is that something to be addressed later on when they are older ?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I guess the modern style of play is about everyone being on the same page - so it makes sense to have a robotic approach.
This is the case in most team sports now - certainly all football codes - it's rarely about individuals or improvising.
100% AGREE. They should be proud to represent the club they are playing for. This as you says means looking respectable, turning up on time with a good attitude, drink bottle filled and a healthy snack. When they turn up on game day it should be in a training kit, tracksuit then get changed together as a group into the playing strip so they know the difference between training and games, help them mentally switch on and know whats expected from the club by wearing the shirt. This is also about teaching them life skills turning up to work on time with a good attitude, part of team etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
nah, the uniform stuff is just about setting standards. all kids need to have that shit drummed into them at one stage in their lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
on field its a different story. our coach absolutely encourages the kids to be themselves, he wants their personalities to shine, and to express themselves on their field with their skills. our kids do pretty much zero 'team' setup. he wants them to think what they should do with the ball and where they should be without the ball. the best coaches in the program actually say very little during the games because they trust the kids to figure it out, and theres no value in yelling at the if they do something 'wrong'.
there are def kids in the program who look like they hate being there and who look scared they will be hit with a tyre iron if they do something wrong. however talented these kids are i doubt they will ever stick with it as it just looks like a miserable existence.
Combed hair??? Who the hell gets to tell a kid about there hair in a soccer club?? It ain’t the army!Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
All the other stuff is cool, but combed hair is to far. Balotelli wouldn’t have lasted
I’ve def seen this to. Some of these kids are being coached by there dad to and don’t look like they wanna be there. I feel bad for some of these kids. They’d prob be happy playing community but there dad’s want them doing SAP. The pressure kills the funQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
exactly, they'd be 10x better players and have 10x more fun without the pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by YewYew
as for the hair, its just about the details of being your best wearing the badge of your club. again, its not really about hair, but about just maintaining a standard.
to be fair though, and im not sure you have a kid around this age, but Plague Jnr and everyone he hangs with are all about that look.
little man wont sit down at the breakfast table without being as fresh as he can get.
not sure where he got it from cause that aint my thing. come to think of it our milkman is always dressed nicely................