Or they just get rid of the trouble makers and replace them. Doubt Olympic will be hard pressed to find players to replace them next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal222
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Or they just get rid of the trouble makers and replace them. Doubt Olympic will be hard pressed to find players to replace them next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal222
RH will continue to help them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Olympic coach u11s gone.
Why would he help out Olympic over Lambton?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Ill guess. Habit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Stage 3 draw out soon
What do people know about the JDL Gala days? not heard much from my boys club
Nothing from ours or a few different people I spoke to over the weekend.A few parents not impressed with the travel but I think it will be a good opportunity for the kids to get out into a different environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Game_over
Well those parents will be in for a rude shock if their kid plays NPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Even ruder if by some miracle they make Jets
Agree, I think it will be a great opportunity for the kids and they will enjoy the experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Just wish Northern could be a little more organized so people can sort out work and other family commitment, but I think peace in the middle east is more likely. :tongue:
I think the information passed on to the clubs was limited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Game_over
The communication didn't clarify whether the gala day allocations would be at a team or club level nor whether the allocations would occur at the same time as the phase 3 draw is released.
Hearing some kids are already being tapped on the shoulder for the Jets next year, has anyone else heard of any movement ?
Doesnt surprise. And maybe shows that those who are looking for the best are on the ball doing their job. There should be a few which stand out above anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isthisforreal
The politics and reputation forming will be on in earnest soon enough.
The kids at the U12s TSP are the main players they are looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isthisforreal
What’s the quality like there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Quite good, some of them are playing U13s in NPL already and aren't being shown up as poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isthisforreal
Yes was going to say that i think around 50% of the TSP kids are already in 13's and not out of place.Plus some of the kids who didnt make the TSP in 12's was surprising so hopefully theres enough talent there to form a good team of 13's next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
That can be problematic as well as some TDs dont like playing their kids up. While others are letting their U11s play 13s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Some TD's and clubs have zero interest in youth development. They do it because its licence requirement in order to hold a senior NPL licence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
I couldn’t disagree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
In 3 years of involvement I am yet to see anything that displays systematic disregard for the kids development.
I know parents at around 8 or so of the clubs and although there have been moments of discontent, on the whole the clubs have made changes where required for the better.
Clubs that don't push capable players up are not clubs you want your kids at. If an U11 is good enough for U13 then he should be there. No point holding him back, challenge the players to make them better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
What are the sessions like? Skills and drills or game play ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Information second hand only from parents that have boys there and they said 1 or 2 of the 13s players are a bit behind the others. 1 significantly with bad close skills and kicks chases and blames others. I could name their club but im not cool with putting it hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Isthisforreal
I know of an ex 15s tsp player that has no hope of even making the 18s squad next year. Might not be the only one but shows that development and opinions about who's the best can change a lot over time so keep on plugging away.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Hard work will always beat talent if talent doesn’t work hardQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim
100%. There’s a lot to be said for work ethic and motivation as you progress. You can make up for lack of technical skills, with awareness, communication and working hard during a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Maybe not so important early on in SAP but into older NPL Youth and seniors, technical ability only counts for so much.
Works the other way too imo.
I entered State league/NPL from inter district comps at 15, and I hope kids from inter district competitions that maybe aren’t so familiar with the SAP and NPL youth set ups can find their way if they want to/are good enough.
Edit: sorry BS, I just realised I repeated what you said haha.
Having watched some community games recently (including 12A's), I think one of the side effects of SAP is that community teams have been gutted of not just high performers but nearly all the half decent kids as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Taking the 12's for example:
300ish kids in SAP are in this age group now.
Community has 8 grades of 8 teams, so maybe 800+ kids?
So over 1 in every 4 boys are now playing SAP, receiving training 2-3 times per week from 8-9 years of age from in most cases a higher standard of coach with TD support.
There aren't as many motivated coaches that stick with community teams anymore nor kids that stand out from the rest.
I think the late bloomers are going to be much fewer and far between. More likely they'll be kids that have swapped from other sports and have stand out physical abilities.
What are peoples thoughts on the phase 3 draw? many changes from Phase 2?
Good point! I guess I came through during a time where it was Macquarie, NPS or HV SYL so what 50-60players in “elite pathways” and no Newcastle United/Jets pathways. Only NSWIS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegon
So good point.
I’m curious how most parents find out about SAP and NPL Youth?
Word of mouth, coaches telling them, clubs notifying them, more so those that were not a part of a club providing the SAP experience. I imagine once you’re in SAP, talk soon turns to NPL.
is the draw out?Where did you see it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Game_over
I've seen the draw for my sons team only, our club has uploaded it onto our team app. He pretty much plays the same teams in phase 3 as he played in phase 2, with the exception of Cooks Hill who he didn't play in phase 2 so I'm guessing they have been playing some good football in phase 2.
I personally didn't have a Newcastle Football background & my son came from a community club with no ties to NPL or NL1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
The way I found out about SAP was through work colleagues who had their own kids in NPL youth. At that stage they were pointing me towards the Zone SAP system which didn't exist anymore.
Fortunately the Operations Manager at Hunter Valley Football was extremely helpful and passed on all the relevant information about premier club SAP.
Once I knew my son would have to join a premier club I sought the advice of my work colleagues again who said pick 3-4 clubs for him to try out for & said to aim for Olympic, Magic, Jaffas, Edgy, etc and if he wasn't good enough to get in to try out at others clubs.
Even at the 11's this year talk already is about what will happen at the end of 12's in 2022, How many boys will end up going to the Jets, how many will stay at or leave the club, strength of other clubs, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Told u that was coming. Noisy parents r undefeatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim
I don’t think so, Ask RH he’s at least 10 and noisy parents are 0. Not on his watchQuote:
Originally Posted by YewYew
Jaffas don't even post on their socials about their youth and JDL.... Jaffas 0 every other club 10000.... It should tell you well enough when they can't be bothered to post about their juniors and youth, but will post about the holiday camp you can pay for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal222
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Originally Posted by KITZ
We were talking about Olympic then you kick the Jaffas as usual. RH isnt an angel of course but Man you need to get a life and stop being a douche. Even better help lake Mac cause they arent what you think.
btw a td doesnt need to do shit on Socials. Thats for other committee members.
They’ll even tell you that they only run JDL because they have to, not because they want to. That’s how RH came into it with NF the jaffas didn’t want to run it so they outsourced it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
Take your own advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by traffic light
This isnt even remotely true.Its pretty obvious where you got this idea from so please next time consider the source.Now can we move on from bashing clubs and td's.Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal222
Man I love this thread:popcorn:
Its actually pretty informative when we are actually talking about the kids and the football.The other shit can piss off out of here as far as im concerned but people seem to have some decent grudges.Now, has anyone seen a draw?Our club has only the next game available and we've been given our gala day allocation too.My young fella is looking forward to the experience which is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by cobra23
PM me, I'll forward you a copy of the draw for the age group you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad