You're a sick person. A sick, wonderful person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Oh I cannot wait to see if that happens. It would be glorious.
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You're a sick person. A sick, wonderful person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Oh I cannot wait to see if that happens. It would be glorious.
Not yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Needs to be like semi final or final stage for full impact
Collina...
Now I can see why that stat is wrong, can anyone else?Quote:
Referees called 95% of incidents correctly without VAR, but the system - which is being used for the first time at a major international tournament at Russia 2018 - improved that success rate to 99.3%.
"We have always said that VAR doesn't mean perfection - there could still be the wrong interpretation or a mistake - but I think you would agree that 99.3% is very close to perfection," added Collina.
I'm struggling to understand how they come up with 95% for refs and 99.3% using VAR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
What are they using to get the 100% figure from which to derive the 95% and 99.3%?
I understand confidence levels but this shit looks like FIFA pulled it from their arses.
Simple....they have added the "corrections" to their "perceived" ref accuracy to feign improvement.
Haven't counted the things they've missed or got wrong outright.
**** statisticsQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
The only thing that matters is how many evades how many assists and who one the possession percentage
So now the geniuses at FFA want to have there own Bunker like at the FIFA WC.. Still we should be investing in our physical human referees more would be a first priority... cause when you have people in the VAR room that also arent competent then it to wont work...
It seems to have taken a backseat ever since the knockout stage started.
Havent been using itQuote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Croatia should have had a penalty in the England game but as per usual VAR stayed out of it
its been good.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
because in the first half Croatia had a shot and it clearly came off the english defender. what should have been a corner was called by the ref a goal kick.
now.
considering the high % of goals that have been scored off set pieces this World Cup the validation for calling it a 'clear and obvious error' was right there.
but the ref/and the VAR just let it pass.
In the same way the penalty claim you are referring to was called by the ref and waved off. im glad VAR stayed away from that one.
the prob is that thats exactly the kind of call the A-League VAR was getting involved in. and thats what drove everyone crazy.
refs have been great. let them ref.
for me, the thing that pissed me off about that call is that it was the exact situation that resulted in about half* of england's goals. as in everything, it is the inconsistency that annoys me. you call one, you have to call them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
* can't be arsed checking the actual stats.
Oh for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
Its admirable they want to crack down on holding etc from set pieces, but the Poms were blocking just as bad when attacking from corners.
There's 3 fouls in every one. I'm just happy for the ref to be the one decided degrees of severity.
Either FIFA are testing the waters with minimal VAR. Or they have made a directive to lay off incase a 92nd minute 50/50 call ruins the comp.
Whatever...it hasnt been missed
refs now have a security blanket a little bit. Which would probably be better as a player too.
So when they give a pen, and everyone come yelling, they can say, look VAR will look and overule if need be. Get on with it.
Maybe VAR has gone behind the scenes a bit more, like it was intended. If something happens, they still look at it, but if they arent on board with it being a bad call, they just continue and don’t advertise that it’s being reviewed. Like pretty sure they reviewed every penalty or near penalty earlier on.
Maybe this coincides with better refs being appointed to knockout games.
FFA are bringing in a VAR Bunker this season
Heres hoping the flogs have to get kitted up each game for laughs
Heres hoping the thing works in the GF this year
Premier League are trialling it next weekend.
They could take a leaf out of the NRL book... VAR was a shambles the first few years, but now it’s incredibly quick & accurate.
The game experience is now rooted. At early EPL games you kept hearing Speedesque comments of "if VAR was being used".
At the game you honestly can't truly celebrate a goal due to the uncertainty.
There was more talk about controversial VAR decisions at the WC than ref decisions at previous tournaments.
Goodbye blue sky...
I think people are being dramatic about the experience of celebrating a goal. Last season I celebrated as soon as it went in (with a quick glance to the linesman as I always have). If they pull up the goal because it shouldn’t have stood, then it shouldn’t have stood. I also don’t remember too many goals being disallowed at the WC, my recollection of the VAR was mostly in awarding penalties but correct me if I’m wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
And people kept using the word “controversial” every time VAR was used purely because it was used, even though a lot of decisions were 100% correct and not actually controversial.
Ffs.
If we wanted the truth, we wouldn’t be here.
This is gonna be so controversial.
except the main argument justifying its existence was "because what if a bad decision costs a team a grand final" then went on to have bad decision cost a team a grand final.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
id say that was controversial.
and once you get that moniker, it sticks.
Its like people still referring to Robert Redford as a 'sex symbol' even though he looks like real life Deadpools dad now.
Therefore VAR is gonna carry that 'controversial' moniker for a while at least.
agree though, its good when its good, but when its honking, its honking.
much like refs.
And we're under way....what a farce.
No VAR....would have stayed a free kick and we wouldnt hear a peep.
Now we have Bozza pooing his pants.
peacocks comment that it was all the ref's call was bizarre. the ref doesn't go and look at the video unless the VAR suggests he should!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
This is the thing...guys like Speed are on social media bagging the ref. VAR called him over in the first place.
If the original decision stood there would have been a bit of a whinge about a "soft" call. That would have been it. Now we have mayhem.
VAR would’ve said, that was close to being inside, do you want to have a look? And I think it might’ve been a bit soft.
The VAR got him over to have a look, that was fine coz he could’ve reversed his decision, but the only person in the world who thinks it’s a pen was the ref, he could’ve overturned his decision, but he didn’t.
The proof will be in the next couple of weeks’ appointments. If he’s reffing, then it’s a pen, if not, he’s clearly been dropped.
Cant believe Victree fans are blowing up about this
They won a GF based on VARs incompetence
Now the gods are balancing up the ledger and they bitching about it
Again, keep it simple. Don't escalate it. What would have happened if there was no VAR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
If the ref made such a mistake like tonight with no VAR he would not be crucified anywhere near as much as this guy will.
Didn't watch game but watching highlights had a real good larf at Muskh##ts expense with the obvious 'F' bombs and crossing himself after the decision.
Go eat a bag of d!cks Kevie.
Karma...although you've got a few more shit ones coming your way b4 the ledger is balanced.
ALeague twitterQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
"#MelbDerby - Further explanation of the 39th minute VAR Review. Corey Brown clearly makes contact with Bruno Fornaroli's knee inside the penalty area. With the on field decision being a free kick outside the penalty area, the decision is reviewed and a penalty awarded."
Unlucky VARctory!
greatest invention ever. would have been nice if it worked earlier this year though.
Worst.
Being used ridiculously.
Jesus. ****ing. Christ.
i really do try to give refs the benefit of the doubt. but **** me they make it almost impossible not to want to rip into them.
technically, it's correct. but do we want to play football or have a ****ing powder puff show? that "challenge" had no material effect on nichols ability to get to the ball. it was far far far far ****ing far less impactful than many tackles that went unpunished throughout the game. no doubt in the background there was exactly the same thing happening with an attacker holding the defender, but that doesn't get looked at!
i actually thought they had more of a shout when boogard pushed somebody in the box when the cross was coming in, but the VAR apparently looked at it and said it was OK!
I'll be done with football if this carries on...every little thing is going to be jumped on. Bozza will rant about the right decision but fmd you have to give a little or stop physical contact entirely.
There was an incident about 50 mins into the game
Ball looped up
Nix keeper comes for ball makes contact with Hoffman before touching the ball
If the Bitch Nicols 1 is a pen then so is this
There was another one with Hoff in the first half that didn't even get looked at.
And if course Speed now going on about the VAR giving the "all clear" for the Mariners goal when it wasn't even a consideration.
After only 3 games is anyone else finding it difficult to get into it this season? The VAR is becoming a massive blight on the game.
If City was awarded that pen last night and VAR didn't exist, it would be the wrong decision but it would just be one of those 'thats football' moments. I'd be fine with that. But the fact it was given after multiple replays then overturned and confirmed to be a penalty, that's absurd.
Ruling out Wellington's goal for handball was even dubious to me, I'd rather no VAR and that goal stand. There probably was a foul in the penalty VAR gave them, but f*** me, he's no where near the ball and again, I think the wrong call was made to overule it.
3 decisions, all of them viewed multiple times and imo they're all wrong, or at least not clear cut enough to change the original call. VAR isn't getting decisions right, it's just getting wrong calls even more difficult to swallow.
Now watching the RoarMariners game how many times has the VAR been mentioned by Speedy? Far out mate, shut up about it!!! Everyone hates it yet it's shoved in our faces all game even when it's not in action.
I'm a massive football fan but this is killing the game for me