I believe first grade got on on the original date. 3rds & Res on tomorrow
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I believe first grade got on on the original date. 3rds & Res on tomorrow
My bad got the dates mixed upQuote:
Originally Posted by AwayDay Views
Dudley has Swansea tomorrow. I think the Suns have w/Bay in lower grades possiblyQuote:
Originally Posted by AwayDay Views
Pretty silly from cardiff not getting their games on Saturday. Busy schedule ahead as a resultQuote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
Dudley v Swansea
1st 6-0
Res 8-0
3rds 5-0
Got there half way through first grade and somehow Swansea didn’t concede but after the break it was like Dudley took it serious and put the foot down and slotted 6 in the half
Swansea have always been such a strong club in all grades it’s a shame to see them this way and hopefully they bounce straight back
Anyone know the rule in regards to first graders dropping down to play in a lower grades match on a seperate day?
I was under the impression that if a player started the first grade fixture they were than ineligible to start in the ressies match and at best had to come off the bench.
Apparently in the Warners Bay vs Newcastle Suns reserve grade catch-up game today I’ve heard the Suns had two players in the starting lineup who also started in the first grade fixture a couple of weeks earlier. One of them scoring the winner an absolute worldie from 30 yards out. This could have ramifications for several teams in the competition with both the minor premiership and top four race blown wide open.
Doesn’t seem fair if there is one rule for the Suns and another for all of the other teams competing. Hopefully I’ve misinterpreted this because im sure they wouldn’t do anything shady.
Is it the same as someone starting third grade then starting Reserve grade. Just it rarely happens in first grade and reserve grade.Quote:
Originally Posted by FairPlay2022
Also very rare that first grade play before reserve grade
You can’t be serious? How is starting 3rd grade then reserve grade making your team stronger?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
Theres no limit going up. You’re correct you can start 3rds, than ressies, than firsts if it’s in that order. However you can’t do it the other way around. I was under the impression that if the first grade fixture is played prior to any lower grades all starting players are ineligible for the lower grades (unless they start from the bench).
And that makes sense because it stops teams from stacking their lower grades something the Suns have seemingly chosen to ignore today.
Typical of suns trying to recoup all that money they fork out for players 'wages'
I’d say trying to cling on to a semi spotQuote:
Originally Posted by MisplacedPasses
Just had a look at the ZPL reserve grade table. Pretty tough on the likes of Mayfield, Cooks Hill & Cardiff who all would have been hoping for the front runners Warners Bay to win today to boost their own chances of getting a top 4 finish.
Doesn’t that mean you back up 3rd graders ? Like everyone else
The right thing to do would be to follow the rules that are in place for the competition. You have injuries but so do many other clubs. How many times have Westlakes had to forfeit in 3rd grade this season? What gives you the right to start 2 first graders today while Warners Bay played by the rules? I bet they would have loved to bring a couple of their top players into the starting lineup. As far as I’m aware your club has cheated. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Yeah first grade captains always play reserve grade when there are injuries 😂😂
I remember watching him playing a 3rd grade semi one year 😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Inside left
Must have been a heap of injuries that year too
He might of had too
Looking at 3rd grade table then the score today they probably needed some reserve graders in thirds to ensure points in semis race.
We didn’t have many players available for the day plain and simple
Including 1 fully fit keeper out of 3 which happened to be the first grade keeper who played on the field in thirds then in goals for ressies
Third grade had a few 35s players needed to fill gaps and the reserve grade centre back who isn’t a keeper played in goals then played ressies
It’s easy to say everyone who played thirds can back up for ressies but they all played on Thursday night with more catch up game to go
The club hasn’t had a single training session since late June (not even joking) with wash outs and catch ups, I would’ve rather we didn’t require not one first grader and have them rested as they arnt playing anywhere near their ability at the moment
You don’t get it mate. You still have to follow the rules like everyone else. Every club this season have had availability issues. You are nothing special in that department. If you couldn’t legally field a team then as unfortunate as it is you should have forfeited 3rd grade as teams like Westlakes have had to do several times this season. Instead you have played two ineligible players that have given you an unfair advantage over all the other teams around you who have been playing by the rules. I think people are quite right to be upset with your actions to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nou Camp
We clarified the rules after the same thing happened to us earlier in the yearQuote:
Originally Posted by FairPlay2022
But no one jumps up and down when other people do it
Silly how?
Don’t you think Cardiff know the situation?
Ground was terrible. Puddles and very soft in the best areas.
It was also called off today.
Asked to delay kick off times. No.
Asked to change grounds yesterday and today. No.
Asked to swap round with Kotara but theyÂ’re ground is worse than ours we were told. No.
Nnsw Speers Pt as usual have no connection to the local football scene whatsoever. Numbties!
We are now fully booked weekends and midweek to seasons end plus one round.
Even called off Old Boys day two weeks ago.
Best day of the year for the club socially and financially.
Any more options?
So the rule about a first grader not being allowed to start a lower grade is false?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nou Camp
In my opinion suns should be docked points.... Looking time coming tbh
Agree that was a silly comment. Every club moving heaven and earth to play. Why would you want a week of playing tue, thurs and Sat if you could avoid it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shere Khan
In my opinion suns should be docked points.
In my opinion suns should be docked points..... Long time coming tbh!
If it is proven they have played an ineligible player which judging by the responses of some Suns posters seems quite likely than yes surely they will have to be docked points. Can imagine there will be 4-5 other clubs issuing a ‘please explain’ if no action is taken by the competition administrators and rightfully so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisplacedPasses
If they have broken the rules then yes dock them point and if it’s not braking the rule well they can’t lose points but we all can see they aren’t playing in the spirit of the ruleQuote:
Originally Posted by FairPlay2022
They have clearly broken the rules and it’s amusing how the first grader apparently scored the winner. They have just ruined any chances of making the finals..Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
gotta love whenever people from a certain club come on here to complain about how special they are for having not trained or having multiple players out. Newsflash: nearly everyone is in the same boat across most zone league competitions at the moment.
Even funnier when the narrative shifts from having no players available to being able to drop one of the best goal scorers in the comp down to play a reserve grade match.
“It’s ok when we do it” right?
So by my understanding of the rules Suns could have started the game with 9 players on the field (or just gotten two 3rds lads to back up). And once the match kicked off put the ball out of play and then bring the two first graders into the game as substitutes. (Actually they did do this with one of the leading goal scorers in ZPL first grade being brought on after 10 minutes). If they repeated this shady but legal tactic with the other two first graders than they wouldn’t have broken any rules. Sounds to me like they just got arrogant and thought they could get away with it.
I’ve noticed the regular Suns posters have gone eerily quiet as well. Looks like Lofty even deleted one of his posts!
Completely skipped over the part where I said it happened to us this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by gtg
He’s not even in the top 3 goalscorers at the club let alone the competition
When we played warners bay at home they played their top goal scorer in ressies and first grade over different days
Maybe they shouldn’t have called their ressies and thirds off because they had players at splendour.
Call ZPL off on the Sunday but play WNPL on Saturday night with less time for drainage to work
He’s away on holidays but I’m sure he’ll come back to you when he canQuote:
Originally Posted by FairPlay2022
Yeah seen this tactic enough in my time. Especially when it comes to finals, seen a few clubs in ZPL do awfully early substitutions in lower grades when their first grade haven't gone the distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by FairPlay2022
Just want to clarify with facts yes a 1st grade player did play the Tuesday night catch up game as he was unavailable the following night there for a ressies player filled that void and didn’t play Tuesday the 1st grade player then has NOT been involved in either 1st grade fixture nor yesterday’s game (even though he technically was allowed)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nou Camp
With the ressies player your talking about played ressies yes then backed up the following night as arguably our best player came down with Covid on game day so played 2 games in 2 nights which probably was an advantage to you guys (with what score ended up I’d say it was)
With the grounds being called off I’m not even going to engage in arguing if they were good enough or not we made a judgment call that if lower grades played 1st grade might not have gotten on
Your comment about splendor doesn’t make sense as it was 4 1st graders that were away for it so would have suited us better to call 1st off but we didn’t so 4 ressies stepped up and played and in turn were ineligible to play yesterday
(That’s what we thought the rules were)
From what I witnessed suns are in a world of hurt and won’t make finals.they were outplayed and if it wasn’t for poor finishing from w/bay would of been dusted early and no amount of top grades would of helped them.
A good old saying that a cheetah never changes its spots???
Any midweek games this week. Surely Azzurri and Cardiff do
Azzurri Res & 1sts playing The Bay tonight
Big game. Mayfield and Dudley play in 1stsQuote:
Originally Posted by Buddha