2015 NPL Youth

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Originally Posted by onthebench

South Cardiff, Adamstown , Charlestown , ages 15s and 17s , many other people at the trials witnessed this as well , some people even spoke to the selestors about this , they were not the parants of the children not selected , just surprised in what they witnessed , i agree some kids have a bad day and not trial well and get in by reputation .

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Ok.... Can only talk of situation at CCB but here goes
Did you contact coach prior ??? At CCB all coaches mobiles were on website months prior. The purpose of this was to encourage contact prior to trails, tell the coach about your kid, current club, highest level played, position etc.
did your child have previouse NPL experience ?? If so chances are coach would have some memory of him so would draw from that
Also As I have discussed previously a number of existing players are offered positions prior to trials. To secure them these positions are offered based on player performance, attitude , training etc over the previous season
CCB were no different kids were offered and accepted positions so number if spots maybe as in our case 6 not 16 as you may have thought

Also pick your mark CCB 15's is a pretty good team, U/14 grand final winners so competition for spots was hot
But as I said previously I can't believe three clubs overlooked your child's ability and development potential ???

So from the Adamstown perspective, 15s decided to keep the majority of the 14s team prior to trials as the coaches believed the kids had either the skills required or the potential to develop. This was also partial recognition of the boys who kept trying hard all year despite being near the bottom of the table. So in the end I think there were only about 4 places available.

The 17s offered places to all the boys from the previous years team who were still elligible age wise. Of those 4 are in the 19s team, 1 at CCB 19s, 1 Central coast 18s team in the Sydney comp, one playing local league. Leaving 4 who stayed in the 17s. Added to that 2 boys from last years 15s. So we have 8 who have come from other clubs. CCB, Lake Macquarie, Adamstown Juniors 17A's and so on.

If you want to PM me I will have a look at your kid give you my opinion on what he needs to improve to make an NPL squad.

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

If you want to PM me I will have a look at your kid give you my opinion on what he needs to improve to make an NPL squad.

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Generous offer, I would accept if you really want some independent advice
I would also extend same, especially for U/15 as this is were I have most knowledge

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

Ok.... Can only talk of situation at CCB but here goes
Did you contact coach prior ??? At CCB all coaches mobiles were on website months prior. The purpose of this was to encourage contact prior to trails, tell the coach about your kid, current club, highest level played, position etc.
did your child have previouse NPL experience ?? If so chances are coach would have some memory of him so would draw from that
Also As I have discussed previously a number of existing players are offered positions prior to trials. To secure them these positions are offered based on player performance, attitude , training etc over the previous season
CCB were no different kids were offered and accepted positions so number if spots maybe as in our case 6 not 16 as you may have thought

Also pick your mark CCB 15's is a pretty good team, U/14 grand final winners so competition for spots was hot
But as I said previously I can't believe three clubs overlooked your child's ability and development potential ???

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Thanks Why Blue for clearing that up , I understand how dificult it is to get teams selected , and what type of players you are looking for .

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

So from the Adamstown perspective, 15s decided to keep the majority of the 14s team prior to trials as the coaches believed the kids had either the skills required or the potential to develop. This was also partial recognition of the boys who kept trying hard all year despite being near the bottom of the table. So in the end I think there were only about 4 places available.

The 17s offered places to all the boys from the previous years team who were still elligible age wise. Of those 4 are in the 19s team, 1 at CCB 19s, 1 Central coast 18s team in the Sydney comp, one playing local league. Leaving 4 who stayed in the 17s. Added to that 2 boys from last years 15s. So we have 8 who have come from other clubs. CCB, Lake Macquarie, Adamstown Juniors 17A's and so on.

If you want to PM me I will have a look at your kid give you my opinion on what he needs to improve to make an NPL squad.

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Thanks for the offer , but he is doing fine .

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Originally Posted by onthebench

Thanks for the offer , but he is doing fine .

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Great to hear that he is all good and hopefully he has a great year and enjoys his football (which is the main thing).
Trials can be the source of much gossip and there are often many conspiracy theories around but like every parent you just hope that your child gets a good even chance like everyone else.
In many cases it is hard from the parents perspective to really know how many positions are available and I think the insight provided from Adamstown and CCB shows that.
Hopefully he comes back next year and gets a spot.

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Originally Posted by onthebench

Thanks Why Blue for clearing that up , I understand how dificult it is to get teams selected , and what type of players you are looking for .

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No probs
I know trial time is stressful you find yourself second guessing and looking at kids comparing etc

But glad to hear your boy is ok, his time may still be coming. We have all heard the different levels of development story, just make sure he gets good coaching
Maybe watch some NPL this year and see the level it is played at, look at all teams and see how they play, what style etc does it suit your son ???
And as I said pick your mark, it is hard to imagine a top NPL club picking an A grade player, he would really have to shine in trial and by 15/17 most players are known

Best of luck

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

No probs
I know trial time is stressful you find yourself second guessing and looking at kids comparing etc

But glad to hear your boy is ok, his time may still be coming. We have all heard the different levels of development story, just make sure he gets good coaching
Maybe watch some NPL this year and see the level it is played at, look at all teams and see how they play, what style etc does it suit your son ???
And as I said pick your mark, it is hard to imagine a top NPL club picking an A grade player, he would really have to shine in trial and by 15/17 most players are known

Best of luck

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Thanks , know all about the NPL and the level its played at , have been in it the last 2 years and again this year , good luck at CCB .

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Originally Posted by onthebench

Thanks , know all about the NPL and the level its played at , have been in it the last 2 years and again this year , good luck at CCB .

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Excellent, although NPL only started last year...

Good day for the Buds, first time the club has won all four games in a competition round!

18-4 combined result over Southy.

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

Good day for the Buds, first time the club has won all four games in a competition round!

18-4 combined result over Southy.

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Well done on all four game win....................nice

Don't know what to think about southy ??? when we played them I thought they were much improved over 2014 squad, but then again we played buds last week and they were also a much improved squad

Probably just confirms that all squads have improved and comp will be tough.................................good

In the 17s we drew in our trial with them. We played much better yesterday, but Southy were not far off.

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

In the 17s we drew in our trial with them. We played much better yesterday, but Southy were not far off.

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So you're at Adamstown not Merewether now ?

If you read all my posts you will work it out. I am a little busy this year.

Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.

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Originally Posted by Wild Brew

Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.

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have been hearing that sometimes things are not as magical as they first seem. Is the EJ a player or spectator ???

I heard about the disgruntled midfielder from one of the undefeated teams but not sure who the EJ player is.

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Originally Posted by Sacre Bleu

I heard about the disgruntled midfielder from one of the undefeated teams but not sure who the EJ player is.

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leaving the 14 jets out, there are only three undefeated teams in 15's................hope its not CCB

I had heard gossip of one midfielder stating he wished he had gone to another club.............but he is from a team that has been beaten...........

but in all seriousness how can this happen ???? players are committed to their clubs and EJ's .......what club would take them ???

Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

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don't think it will make the back page !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

obviously means nothing to you.......................probably wont greatly effect my life................just something to discuss, that's all

Mum and dad chasing more win bonus 😀😀

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

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LOL- probably be a good news story compared to the football we are currently reading about in the Herald.

I just find it funny the way these kids are being spoken about. Like, it's not a bad thing i guess, it's good we have this elite pathway and their exposure to the public. But it's also important to remember these kids are being shaped not only as footballers, but also as young men.

Majority of the players i played with were all pretty down to earth, talented guys. There was the odd tall-poppy syndrome, who always thought they deserved more and were unwilling to earn it. They left for those greener pastures, and continually move on to different clubs.

To start this business early on is detrimental to their character, reputation and their general life attitude. My first year of Senior Football, we got beaten every game bar 2 (1 draw and a win in the final game). The previous year, i had filled in for IDs at my junior club, and their coach had moved on to coach NBN First grade, so was willing to give me a crack, and the President of Junior club also had connections at another NBN club and gave me the choice. He consulted me again a few games into the season asking if I wanted to switch (the other club were in top 4) as he could "get me in". To me, there wasn't really a choice. I was committed to the team, I strived to work hard and try and better myself and my team mates. We had fun, but i learnt so much more by losing the games I did and playing against better opposition than i would have if i'd have jumped ship.

What message does it send to the younger players when if something doesn't work out, just take the easy option. Like seriously, if you get dropped, work your ass off to get back into the starting team. If an area of your game is costing you, ask your coach how you can improve. If the team is losing games, be the player that helps them win. Or strive to be promoted up to other age groups. If I was coaching a club, looking for players for the future, yeh sure, maybe you'd get 2-3 of these players that think they deserve the world, but i'd want committed and loyal players that i know would give their best and not give up.


I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.

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I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.[/QUOTE]

Times have changed, and you make some good points, but there's always going to be those that think they're better, or don't fit in, or there's some other reason for wanting to change.
Not knowing all the circumstances, it must be hard for the kids to swap teams, will there be animosity when they play against their former team, or within their new team and if they're potentially pushing out some other kids already in there. The clubs, coaches and management must take responsibility as well, treating the NPL youth like English Premier League whereas they should be supporting their players.
Some stories I've heard of kids "scrambling" to make an NPL team when they miss out on other one is ridiculous. Dog eat dog.

The real issue here is the club that is prepared to take them in and kick someone else out. If this does not happen most likely they will stay where they are.

The only other option is that some clubs have not completely filled their squads this year. Adamstown have generally decided on a squads of 14 for each grade, although some do now have 15. The idea is more game time and more opportunity for younger players to fill in playing up. Max is 16 for any that do not know.

Watching CCB and Maitland today and was surprised by Maitlands win in the 15s. Seems the talk of unrest at the Blues has some merit.

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

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Haha

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Mum and dad chasing more win bonus ����

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Haha again...

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

FFS yourself..............why cant Youth have same banter as senior ??????

its just a bit of fun.................FFS

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Because they are young boys learning the game.

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

I just find it funny the way these kids are being spoken about. Like, it's not a bad thing i guess, it's good we have this elite pathway and their exposure to the public. But it's also important to remember these kids are being shaped not only as footballers, but also as young men.

Majority of the players i played with were all pretty down to earth, talented guys. There was the odd tall-poppy syndrome, who always thought they deserved more and were unwilling to earn it. They left for those greener pastures, and continually move on to different clubs.

To start this business early on is detrimental to their character, reputation and their general life attitude. My first year of Senior Football, we got beaten every game bar 2 (1 draw and a win in the final game). The previous year, i had filled in for IDs at my junior club, and their coach had moved on to coach NBN First grade, so was willing to give me a crack, and the President of Junior club also had connections at another NBN club and gave me the choice. He consulted me again a few games into the season asking if I wanted to switch (the other club were in top 4) as he could "get me in". To me, there wasn't really a choice. I was committed to the team, I strived to work hard and try and better myself and my team mates. We had fun, but i learnt so much more by losing the games I did and playing against better opposition than i would have if i'd have jumped ship.

What message does it send to the younger players when if something doesn't work out, just take the easy option. Like seriously, if you get dropped, work your ass off to get back into the starting team. If an area of your game is costing you, ask your coach how you can improve. If the team is losing games, be the player that helps them win. Or strive to be promoted up to other age groups. If I was coaching a club, looking for players for the future, yeh sure, maybe you'd get 2-3 of these players that think they deserve the world, but i'd want committed and loyal players that i know would give their best and not give up.


I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.

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Great Post

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

I just find it funny the way these kids are being spoken about. Like, it's not a bad thing i guess, it's good we have this elite pathway and their exposure to the public. But it's also important to remember these kids are being shaped not only as footballers, but also as young men.

Majority of the players i played with were all pretty down to earth, talented guys. There was the odd tall-poppy syndrome, who always thought they deserved more and were unwilling to earn it. They left for those greener pastures, and continually move on to different clubs.

To start this business early on is detrimental to their character, reputation and their general life attitude. My first year of Senior Football, we got beaten every game bar 2 (1 draw and a win in the final game). The previous year, i had filled in for IDs at my junior club, and their coach had moved on to coach NBN First grade, so was willing to give me a crack, and the President of Junior club also had connections at another NBN club and gave me the choice. He consulted me again a few games into the season asking if I wanted to switch (the other club were in top 4) as he could "get me in". To me, there wasn't really a choice. I was committed to the team, I strived to work hard and try and better myself and my team mates. We had fun, but i learnt so much more by losing the games I did and playing against better opposition than i would have if i'd have jumped ship.

What message does it send to the younger players when if something doesn't work out, just take the easy option. Like seriously, if you get dropped, work your ass off to get back into the starting team. If an area of your game is costing you, ask your coach how you can improve. If the team is losing games, be the player that helps them win. Or strive to be promoted up to other age groups. If I was coaching a club, looking for players for the future, yeh sure, maybe you'd get 2-3 of these players that think they deserve the world, but i'd want committed and loyal players that i know would give their best and not give up.


I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.

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im not disagreeing with you, or am I saying I agree with what goes on, but it goes on and we have to accept it or get left behind.

Its 2015 now

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Originally Posted by prawnhead

Because they are young boys learning the game.

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jeeeze been waiting since October to bring that out ???

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Originally Posted by Y Bloo?

Watching CCB and Maitland today and was surprised by Maitlands win in the 15s. Seems the talk of unrest at the Blues has some merit.

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maybe there is..................team certainly played well below thier best and what they and the coach would normally expect from them

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Mum and dad chasing more win bonus ����

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very sad attitude !!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Y Bloo?

Watching CCB and Maitland today and was surprised by Maitlands win in the 15s. Seems the talk of unrest at the Blues has some merit.

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How can you have unrest in an u15 team, ridiculous, the only unrest is from mum and dad

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

How can you have unrest in an u15 team, ridiculous, the only unrest is from mum and dad

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True dat. 14 yo boys don't give a shit about anything.

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Mum and dad chasing more win bonus ����

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Would definitely love some of that win bonus!

But you are all right in saying that sometimes these kids get treated (and act) like they are superstars but a good parent and coach should manage this.

As I say to the parents of my u/8 side- its not all about the football.

Has the comp started yet? if so, how about some results published then, instead of the other dribble being posted.

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Originally Posted by Jardelsimage

Has the comp started yet? if so, how about some results published then, instead of the other dribble being posted.

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I suppose we could if the clubs pulled their fingers out and updated their results... some results weren't in last week till thursday? what a joke.

In the 17s four unbeaten teams at the moment:
Weston, Adamstown, Hamilton and the EJets.