Aren't the 23s not good enough who have been there all year,Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
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Aren't the 23s not good enough who have been there all year,Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
How did I get branded a Lakes hater?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
I don't know for sure but just thinking out loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Makes sense to me that if you have four grades playing semis then your 23s subs are probably going to be 19s players that have already played a full game.
As their 19s are gone then the subs will be fresh reserves and I can't recall their names but the front three for the Lakes 19s have all played higher this year and may have even played first grade at some point.
Handy players to have fresh on your bench.
Now I know Southy have the same options but I think the Lakes subs might be better quality and could make the difference - thats all Im saying.
Richardson, Ward and Russo would be the three 19's players you're thinking of. They bring a lot more attacking threat than those that are in the Lakes' 23's. Neither Lakes or Southy are the most attack-focused team. Will be likely physical and bringing these guys on late could play a major part.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongSufferingFan
Lakes 3- 0 in the 17s
Shambolic refereeing at the end
Ref awards a penalty.
Books a player
Shows him the red for a second yellow and then after the kid argues with him seems to change his mind and leaves the kid on the park.
Another epic referee failure
How hard is it to get a basic like this right???
Why did he leave him on?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Was it his first yellow?
Referee can change his decision at his discretion providing play has not resumed.
I am assuming he ****ed up as it was only his first yellow and not a second???Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Changing his mind before play resumes etc is irrelevant.
The bloke ****ed up somewhere.
How hard is it to take down numbers correctly??
How hard is it to review your numbers correctly??
Amateur hour refereeing.
On another note Bel Swan's 3-1 winners in the 19s
Why? If he made a mistake, he rectified it?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Maybe the guy looked Familiar.
Would be worse if he was stubborn and didn't change his decision and sent a guy off he shouldn't have.
How'd the ref go in 19s?
Belswans deserved that a lot more. Actually played some good football.
Hey let's just face factsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
He ****ed up.
As soon as he reached into the pocket and pulled out the red that is his first mistake
His second was he had a bit of time between the yellow and the red so his next **** up was to not check his records correctly
His third and to me is his biggest failing was HE LSTENED TO THE PLAYERS
3 glaring **** ups that are basic level issues
Stop defending it and making excuses for poor work
On another note Lakes 3-0 over a very disappointing Southy in 23s
HT
0-0
BelSwans the better side just.
But it a pretty boring affair so far
Meh, he made a mistake and he corrected it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Would you prefer he remained stubborn and sent somebody off incorrectly?
At least he had the maturity and balls to change his decision (as the laws of the game allow him to do) unlike others who are too arrogant and obnoxious to ever admit they are wrong.
Yeah he made a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Basic level skills for a referee.
Issue red cards appropriately
Keep records
Check Records correctly
All basic level skills failed at.
Yet your the one defending him unable to admit the reality he ****ed up and it not good enough.
No, I'm not saying he didn't to anything wrong. I'm saying he doesn't deserve the shit you're lumping on some guy officiating an under 17 match.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Yeh he screwed up and issued the red card. But he changed the decision when he realised it was incorrect. Was the game affected by his screw up that he corrected. I think not. The eventual outcome was correct and the errors were made when the ball was not in play.
If that's the worst error you have to whinge about, I think he did pretty well.
Least it's a better second half.
0-0 about to start second half of extra time
Wallsend on penalties!
3-2 I think.
Bel swans missed their first two! Eek. Always uphill from there. Thought they were the better team too.
Maybe it was 4-3
What's the go with Northern not allowing people to stand behind the goal in a shoot out??
What people standing behind the goals is gonna put the player off any different than people yelling banging on fences etc??
If it such a big issue why hold it at the of the ground with a crowd??
Why not use the other end at Jack McLaughlin??
Pretty poor form really when penalty shootout are regularly held with crowds behind the goals around the world
To the Muppet who tried ripping the drumsticks out of the Wallsend kids hands. Grow up and act your age
The game was a poor example of 2nd Division football, not much football played at all. Wallsend definetly deserved the win. The refs decision not to dish out cards to Belswans for the same tackles that Wallsend got carded for was very obvious all game. The penalty given to Belswans in the game was not a penalty and Marcus should have had 2 penalties. The teams were very evenly matched but Wallsends effort to play with 10 men for so long made them deserved winners. I'm just wondering if Belswans practice penalties it would be interesting to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Well done to Wallsend lost 6 points and their coach during the season and still come out on top. Also from where Belswans started the year congrats to them for making it the GF also well deserved.
Sounds abit like last week with kahibah getting cards while belswans weren't getting any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
Happy for wallsend they probably would have come second had it not been for the points being dropped
Take a chill pill MFKS - talk about the football not the officiating.
With a few exceptions that didn't impact the results at all I thought the refs today were pretty decent.
First grade was always going to be tough to ref and the game never really got going in my view.
A draw was a fair result.
23s was a fairly dominant performance by Lakes - agree Southy were disappointing.
19s was a good game. Belswans always looked in charge but Westy challenged and took the fight up to them.
17s was game of the day IMO. A real arm wrestle by two teams prepared to play physical - unusual for this age.
Lakes won in the end but some quality in both these teams.
i thought there was a bit of this too. thought that was a pen when wallsend player went down near full time. also thought BSwans created the more chances too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
but anyway belswans have a great young side, nearly all under 25?, great effort. wonder if they'll all stay.
Don't know much is a very fitting nameQuote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
Have heard Graham Law is coaching Cooks Hill 2017, any other early news?
Have heard from a club committee member that NPL licenses and structure will be announced on the 20th September.
Short lived celebrations for Wallsend......homeless, jets announce interest in The Gardens as a training facility and home base for Youth, WPL, trial and FFA cup games
Federal park ???
Can also confirm hearing the 20th September thrown out as the date. And yes, Law to Cooks Hill rumour is gaining some traction. Will wait and see. Great for them if true.
As for The Gardens, it'd be a crushing blow to Wallsend to lose that ground. Need to do some work at Federal Park to meet requirements. Can never be sure with the Jets but assuming new owner could afford to simply buy the complex if he really wanted and looking certain that greyhounds will be canned next July. Interesting to see what happens.
At the moment it's a really good greyhound track, not a very good venue to watch football atQuote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
Why would Wallsend go to Federal Park when their juniors play at Wallsend Park and Federal Park is already utilised by Fletcher FC and Church football?Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
Agree. Not the best football ground but the facilities (grandstand, changerooms, canteen/bar are alright. Be a big drop from there to somewhere like Wallsend Oval. Would need to fork out some money to make it work.Quote:
Originally Posted by mervan
Well worth it. That track is crap for football viewing. Would have been good to have both going at the same time though.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
Congrats New Lambton on being acceped to this league. Also read on their FB page yesterday that Andrew Packer is the new head coach.
Lots of hard work ahead for the club, but with the size of our junior base, we are in good stead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotline
Do you know if there is approval for a seated stand at alder Pk yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by howardyou
Andrew Packer from southy.
Who is coaching Southy in 2017?
Wonder how much the quality will drop over the next 2 years as clubs put some focus on facilities?
Council are in favour of our master plan for Alder Park which includes covered seating.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
We are currently looking at uncovered seating options for 2017 until funds are there to construct a full stand.
Congrats to New Lambton, i think it's great to see new blood being brought into these top competitions. If Wallsend, Cooks Hill & Kahibah are any indication then things are looking very exciting for next season.
Interested in your comment, why does size of junior base put you in good stead ??Quote:
Originally Posted by howardyou
I get promotion is good, will attract kids and help retain kids as they have a senior pathway
I get $$ from all those juniors will be good
But.... Now you will have to manage parents expectations of those juniors moving thru the development stages AND manage the expectations of were parents will expect those $$ to be spent, not many see any value in junior money supporting senior teams
Just interested in your thoughts
It will depend if they are seen to be spending the $$$ on player payments or are spending it on improving a facility that all the club will be able to utilise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
sorry to burst the bubble, but I just cant see how northern has allowed the Eagles into the comp, when you don't comply with most I would say of the conditions required.(grandstands, parking, sheds, field condition).Quote:
Originally Posted by howardyou
Having council in favour of a master plan is great, but councils can be at times very fickle, especially Newcastle, took them 9 years to vote on a rock.
Don't get wrong either I have a very healthy relationship with the Eagles and wish them well, I just don't get it.
Alder Park is in no way a 2nd division venue as it stands currently and yes I know you have plans to improve, if there not done within 3 years, what happens then, do they get dumped like Bero and Dudley did because they didn't comply?
Before you keyboard warriors take offence, Please note this is not an attack on the eagles, just the system.
cheers
Eagles have the worst facilities in zpl, let alone newfm.
Not a personal attack, just the fact.
Good on them for having a go and developing juniors,
Can't win a 1st grade comp playing with 12 year olds on a 'park' though
In regards to Alder Park I absolutely agree that both Jardelsimage and Trout have valid points. Alder Park isn't ready for Northern League 1 yet, but the reality is an application and plan was submitted to NNSWF and they obviously felt it was worth offering Eagles an opportunity. The criteria for Northern League 1 does offer the opportunity for clubs to improve facilities over the 3 year licence period (it's less strict than NPL), and that is the aim of the Eagles.
And yep, If at the end of that licence period the Eagles haven't done what is required by Northern we would expect they fully would give us the boot (as they have done to Dudley, Thornton, Bero, Wallsend) in the past.
In response to Why Blue and the junior discussion. I believe the point Howardyou desired to make was, as you say, that this promotion offers a pathway to senior football for the 1300 kids at New Lambton. Our reason for doing all of this was to allow the junior players a chance to play for New Lambton in a higher grade than ZPL as our best junior have been wandering off to neighbouring clubs for years in search of higher quality football. We want to offer that to them at our club. In terms of $$$ the club structure is such that the junior money stays within the junior element and seniors are required to make their own money to support the senior program. We understand the need to protect all parts of our club and feel we have a structure that allows us to do this.