^ Not trying to start rumour mungering here but i thought there was an article just recently where the big fella was waiting to see where the club was at re GVE .
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^ Not trying to start rumour mungering here but i thought there was an article just recently where the big fella was waiting to see where the club was at re GVE .
I've sat on the fence about GVE untill tonight but after this exhibition of shit and the fact that the players he let go are now making up a majority of the table topping side, I've now got to get on the GVE out bandwagon. Time to go Gary.
Seems a lot of 'fence sitters' on this issue feel the same way after tonight. Pressure on GVE has really gone up a notch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
Make Pim Verbeek coach for ****s sake...
at least we'd jag ugly draws and the occasional ugly win with him...would be the complete reverse of GVE's philosophy though regarding age.Quote:
Originally Posted by GVEOUTNOW
RM has a lot to weigh up in the short term.
1 Let GVE see out his contract even though there is a growing number of pissed off fans
2 The resigning of Heskey, is it worth it if pisssed off fans equels less membership numbers going into next season.
3 Starting with GVE next season and getting off to a shocker and having to make a decision after it has started.
4 What to do with GVE, do we have the money to early exit him or just shuffle the deck chairs and get stuck with Deans because the funds are not there to recruit another.
Should be some sleepless nights coming up for Robbie and Palmer.
Are we really a better team nearly 2 full seasons down the track under GvE ?. Even the most die hard Gary in supporter would have a hard time of making a vaild arguement for the affirmitive.
I'll be very happy to see GVE go, but to say his rejects are making up the "majority of the table topping side" is a farcical statement. Haliti is a bench player, Covic pissed off overseas before coming back, Bridge wasn't going to be stopped and didn't shown this sort of form in the last few years with Sydney either. D'Apuzzo left football altogether after us, and Elrich can't get a start. Topor is the only player who has come straight from the Jets to WSW and turned his form right around. In saying that, Topor's form under Branko wasn't flash hot either. So even if you count Topor and Stanley as 2 players, that's 2 out of 25. I was shite at maths but I'm pretty sure that isn't the majority...
Lets not be like shitney and have a knee jerk reaction and hire the closest guy we can find.
Put some thought into it take your time and bring paul okon back home.
Hopefully that's what they're doing now & will continue to until about June/July and it's the reason GVE is still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Porett
what's richard money doing these days?
Youth coach at Newcastle United I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Give the gig to clacka.
His bunch of young kids came third.
My favourite part of the interview was when he couldnt remember Heskeys name.Quote:
Originally Posted by snake
Well in coach.
I wonder if we could get Miron away from his business adventures and throng of young women ?
the one thing brankenstein passed on to GVE was the terrible excuses.
instead of apoligising to the fans for the dire display, he blames the players for not following instructions & tactics. maybe if he were a better coach the players would have.
its ok though, he will make everyone feel better about themselves this morning when he puts bridges & heskey in the starting line up and yesterday is forgotten.
All of this proves that you need a few experienced heads in the side. (in any team)
pace,fitness,youth will not just win you games. a few old heads out there may have changed the mentality of the game. im not saying if bridges and heskey had played we would have won, but we would have at least made a game
out of it.
some players need guidence and support, yesterday alot of our players needed that.
Not knocking what you are saying but the blokes he put out there are more than capable to play at a level better than they did. We may have been missing some senior players but the blokes who went out there were ****ing disgraceful in their efforts. Why does the coach have to apoligise for them playing at a level ridiculously below their normal level??? No way in the world that Victree side is 5 goals better than the blokes we played yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
Oh FFS member, get your tongue out of GVE's proverbial arsehole. We were absolutely destroyed by his complete tactical genius of pushing fullbacks half a pitch up the field when playing against a team whose favourite attacking method is raping teams down the flank on the quick counter. Doesn't matter who we had on the pitch, that was going to happen all day with his brilliant tactical inflexibility.
There is little wrong with pushing fullbacks up the park if you maintain possession which we didn't players fault not coaches. There is also little wrong with this method if the centre mids drop in to cover like they should be Players fault not coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Watch next time Zenon plays how often he covers the back line. Zads needs to improve on this as he does it sometimes but not enough and Brillante doesn't seem to do it at all. Watch the Gypos play Hutcho and Montgomery are always dropping in to cover Bojic/Rose when they go forward.
Glad our loss yesterday has made so many happy that they can wallow in negativity and flex their GVE hate again. Last couple of weeks have been a bit quiet around here.
look at the muppets we have played over the last couple of weeks but
Heart at home: heart haven't won away outside the of the melbourne derby at etihad round 1
Brisbane: lucky not to lose
Wellington: no coach, took advantage of it.
than;
Melbourne: good team, good coach & garys "tactical tanking" failed
we probably will win this week against glory, but its a tough run in against adelaide & western sydney.
FFS, have you ever thought that GvE was prepared to throw away getting a result against a higher placed team, who we can't catch up to barring a miracle, to get the definite 3 points against Wello and then have a full strength team against Perth who could still make the finals and knock us out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
Either way, we win and the same people who blame GvE for chopping and changing the squad, aren't happy that Riberio, Regan etc aren't playing. We lose against a higher placed team and he's an incompetent fool.
You don't see the coach of Wigan getting sacked for losing to Manchester United.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
easy in hindsight.
glad we agree on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
If we had won yesterday, the Victory AND Adelaide, who we play in 2 weeks time, were both within striking distance 3 points ahead - granted we have played an extra game. There was certainly pressure to have been applied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Yes, there was probably a chance. However, playing to Middleby's exception of top 6, GvE played safe by wanting to beat the teams below us to stop them overtaking us, and happy to throw away points to a team who may be able to catch the coasties and make them come third. I don't blame him for doing so, and given the current crop of cattle, and I would agree with the team for yesterday (although I would have signed one or two more experienced heads by now). We do need some more experienced players, if nothing else as back up when the first choices are out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
lol what kind of speng goes out to throw away a result? a ****ing loser that's what
gve dropped the oranges here pal, and if he was a player, would be dropped to da yoof or shot out of a cannon into the sun
deans IN
Q Man You remember Tiago giving away the pens to Brisbane in an attempt to **** over the Gypos last season??:whistling:Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
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Originally Posted by Thomas477
I agree with you here. Given the situation we found ourselves in yesterday with rested players, injuries and illnesses to Brown and Virgili it was probably the team I would have picked too (except maybe Chapman starting and Ritter - but do you break up a CB pairing playing well? Probably not). The players he has to select, however, is the result of Gary's own doing.
Agree we need more experience in the team even as a back up.
I'll put this down to you being angry mate :gent:Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
Shit, glad you spotted this. Would not have realised that our midfielders were complete and utter shit for 22 out of 24 games of football if you hadn't pointed it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Ever thought that if the same players do the same thing for 22 ****ing games with ZERO change that it might have something to do with the inept ****wit at the helm?
Why not just raise your issues with the man himself......
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Meh.... they'll just vet out the online questions that Gary doesn't want asked or want to answer. I've done enough webcast corporate result presentations online and they do the same tactic where by the vet out the tricky questions they don't or won't weant to answer.......... Ooooh long time lurker too but my first post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
Must be tough lurking on here with so much hate for you, Sam :gent:
Actually I just ahve a bit more time these days to get involved and throw my 2 cents. I don't think GVE has brought anything new with him from hi time @ Institute of Sport and with access to FFA resources, ie Pim / Holger etc, so I kind of expected something better this season with his team that he built. Look at what Poppa has done with WSW and half of that team is made of ex Jets and the table don't lie! IMHO GVE will be eventually shown up in much the same way as Fergie over at Perth and Ricki at the Nix have been. Anyway I haven't had the time to lurk on the threads yet.... stay tuned :popcorn:
Get some new boots ay Sammy.
.... with steel caps.......
Sorry to disagree with your second post but the comment about WSW and jets players is crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by #13
Covic - left on his own free will 4 years ago
Elrich - reserve/bench player at WSW
Topor - been playing well, but was honking his last season with us
Da Puzz - left the game entirely, then came back
Bridge - went to Sydney because he wanted to, did nothing for 3-4 years then has pulled his finger out
Haliti - bench player at WSW
So by my count, that's 1 player has played well this year, as opposed to crap last year. Plus Covic, who him leaving wasnt our fault. The rest are bench or reserves. So that's hardly half the team.....
I think the point is that Popa gets the best out of these players and is topping the league, whereas GVE benched them
the excuse bullshit about having to fly internationally for a midweek game is similar
we played Friday, Wednesday and Sunday games, compare and contrast with any team who played in European competitions, did they crap on about how this was some great injustice or did they just ****ing get on with it as professionals? four days gap then three days gap for a three hour flight is more than enough for fit professionals
GVE was hoping that yesterdays game would vindicate all he has preached regarding youth and he would come away looking like the cat that swollowed the mice. Sadly and predictably once again GVE proved he is a useless twat and more importantly he suffered a severe case of egg on the eggs face.
Sad reality is if they decided to punt GVE we probably do not have the dough to get another coach in so a re arranging of the deck chairs would take place and possibly Deans in FFS, scarey shit that thought.
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Originally Posted by boz-monaut
That's all good and well harping on about they do in Europe Boz but this ain't Europe. Every other team in the HAL will struggle playing weekend midweek and weekend. This is Australia and the blokes ain't use to doing it so don't spin no they do it in Europe crap as being relevant. European pros do that every week every year year after year. Just because it is rare event here doesn't mean we are able to deal with the pre game build up post game let down and pre game build ups at rapid fire rate.
Not that I am crying about it but Gypos preparation for the top of the table clash V Wallys is compromised by the ACL and they are behind the eight ball where Wallys had a whole week to FOCUS on Gypos. We had a midweek game in Wellington and then a short turn around to play Sunday in Melbourne against a team who had all week to prepare to play us whilst we spent most of the week focusing on Wellington and not turning our attention to Victory until Wednesday night after the Nix game finished. Hell I would love Perth to be playing tomorrow night and then flying on to play us Friday. Would be a great leg up to get advantages like that