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Originally Posted by pv4
The other way to look at it is, if some of those figures are correct, based on performance, do some of our players need a reality check??
No, look at what you are saying..."Every club needs a whipping boy for the fans to get stuck into when things aren't going well"...that is a form of bullying at it's worst. Target a player and make them a scapegoat when the team is not performing....really plague what do you hope to achieve with that???Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Do you feel satisfied yelling abuse at a player....your own player.... you don't like with your big tough mates?
Must feel great walking out of the stadium at the end of the game kowing you have "given it" to your own player.
Except, yanno, I didn't say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Be better.
Cheers,
Plague.
I vote plague for forum whipping boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
****.
I don't think you're ready for this jelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
I just had yoghurt. Don't think it would go well with jelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
You may be right but hey, even BK saved a shot at goal once and before he left, I think Gallaway made a tackle.
I know this was aimed at another story but...Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Pretty sure he isnt at our club. and he isnt the only one who isnt up to aleague standard. cant hide the facts. I dont think this is a whipping.
Birraz isnt fazed
Pretty sure it was me not Plague that made those comments. Since day one of the Jets it has always been the case that some vocal fans have actually targeted a player they didn't think was good enough. Mind you the people targeting the players have never played professional sport in their lives and live in a football fantasy world.. and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Elrich used to get an absolute pasting by these people [ many of whom are regulars at games and on the forums because according to them he wasn't even good enough to play state league.
Denni was another player that lot targeted and many others.
The best part though is when the player comes good in their eyes and they think their abuse was responsible for making the player try harder... hence they take credit for the player improving - delusions of grandeur and so on come to mind.
My comments were directed at those, people not Hoffman. It's called taking the piss. The fact you missed the joke is a worry though.
outrage runs only at full speed, with its eyes closed and its mouth wide open.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
We shall overcome.
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Originally Posted by plague
Yeah, so back to Birraz. Bloke is lucky he gets to prove himself to yet another coach. Am I wrong in thinking both times he's been dropped he's straight away started to look to an overseas move instead of fighting to retain his spot?
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Originally Posted by Jeterpool
No you are not wrong. His lack of interest body language every time he has been dropped had me not caring one way or another at his return.
Disagree. He saw stubz was a mug and wanted to bail. Should be praised for his genius. Saved our arse time and time again had a rough patch and the knives are out from the plebs
I don't reackon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Everyone reacts differently to criticism. Unless people know first hand from training etc he may have been busting his ass but couldn't get back in.
All horseshit aside he was not in good form when he got dropped then BK was solid enough in those early days to prevent him coming back.
But also Stubbs being a complete nonce probably screwed his confidence anyway.
I'm more than happy for Biraz to be back and fighting for his place. If it raises the standard of all our keepers then that can only be a good thing.
JP De Marigny "discovered" BK in 2005.....nuff said.
Right then, found my next whipping boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
JP OUT!
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I am very interested if BK will raise his efforts in training etc to actually attempt to regain number 1 or if he'll just go through the motions until Biraz drops himself again.
Because speaking to people involved - BK did sfa for his own cause, to the point where no one thought he even cared or even acted professional, and it all kind of just fell in his lap last year.
Not easy to act professional when khunts aren't paying your wages on time.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
You also have to remember he's had a lot on his mind with respect to his mother.
Professional or not it would have to get you down at times regardless.
Talking about being professional. What could be more unprofessional than so called "people involved" questioning BK's professionalism with someone not within the playing or coaching group. That's just more evidence of how ****ed this club really is.
Everyone cries out for more professionalism but it's wall to wall 12 year old girls whining about who the best boy band are for this week.
Last I looked BK was the number 1 - it's up to Flappa to knuckle down, get phased and win his position back.Quote:
attempt to regain number 1
Could easily say the same about Flappa!Quote:
to the point where no one thought he even cared or even acted professional
I think it's back to square one because it's a new coach and all positions are up for grabs - not just the keepers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
The undisputed dispute.
Where are you checking? Last time I checked, BK was number 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Jetmaster was talking about his ranking in the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Well given we only had 1 keeper until Birraz re-signed, he's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Obvious
Ahh - but we did have two keepers when BK ascended the throne.
So what you're saying is BK is kinda like Joffrey from Game of Thrones - does nothing to earn the throne and it just kinda gets given to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
More like stannis.. Everyone knows he's the rightful heir however we all still think he's a ****Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
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Originally Posted by pv4
And let's not forget, the reason BK got promoted ahead of Birraz last year was because Birraz had an off day with his kicking, he made a lot of good saves inc a pen in that game vs roar.
He didn't let in 7Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
You can't honestly believe that one game was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
The Roar game was probably his best effort in months and while the score looked bad it was hardly his fault that the defence clocked off ten mins before the pre game warm-up finishedQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
However, the half a dozen games before that he was absolutely terrible and looked like a kid that was completely out of his comfort zone.
From not being in command in the 6 yard box to his rushes of blood leaving the 18 yard box he just doesn't have the mentality required to make it to the top.
He could have the best technique in history but it's not going to be worth jack shit if he's not mentally up for it - and this kid is definitely not up for it mentally.
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A big YAAAAAAAWWWNNNNN to the comments above!!!
I find it all irrelevant when we have much more concerning issues, like the fact we at the present only have 14 players.
It would be great if the battle for the N0. 1 GK spot was our most pressing concern but really it is the least of our worries at the present.
Both are very different keepers with different attributes and weaknesses, with a new coach coming on board it will hopefully bring out the best in both of them as to who eventually takes the No. 1 spot....and as a supporter that is all I'm concerned about, not being a "fan boy" for one or the other.
End of thread
The fact that we have two keepers of essentially equal talent sucking up a big part of the cap is a very pressing concern which no doubt will make it difficult to find the eight or so players we need to form a competitive team. And by competitive I'm talking running 2nd last rather than last. Finals football for this club is not going to happen for a very very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
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Originally Posted by Footyhead
650 posts and we've come so far.
Spotted Birraz the other night on Derby St sporting a pair of Balenciaga sneakers.
Has improved his choice of footwear if nothing else.
At this stage the no.1 spot will go to the bloke who offers least in a shirt numbered 2 to 11.
BK improved a lot last year IMO.
Birraz has better reflexes, but he commands the box as much as Napoleon Dynamite's brother.
Someone needs to buy the kid a steak and get him to bulk up a little.
BK should be ahead atm in my books.