Assuming there will be a fair amount of player movement with the new coaches in the comp.... any trials been announced? I know Toronto are having a kick sunday 10am, not sure where? could be at the junior ground
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Assuming there will be a fair amount of player movement with the new coaches in the comp.... any trials been announced? I know Toronto are having a kick sunday 10am, not sure where? could be at the junior ground
I've seen a few trials get announced via club Facebook pages. Westy and South Cardiff come to mind. Definitely a few players, especially in 19's and what not that are planning to trek around and really find the best suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
As for New Lambton, it's great to see a big club on the rise. Real similar background to Cooks Hill. Yes Alder Park needs work and I can see them patching together a decent enough venue for next year. Really, a fence and some seating here and there with a bit of cover and it's almost on par with somewhere like Thornton Park and even Blacksmiths. Blacksmiths currently doesn't have any tiered seating. I'm sure most clubs in this comp will put in work over the next few years to be honest.
I've heard from a few clubs that are just hoping to tick boxes over the three year window. Until next season kicks off, New Lambton will keep hearing criticism but they understand the situation and obviously have plans in place. The best thing for them and for the comp is if they field competitive sides in each grade. Say what you will but Kahibah, Wallsend and Cooks Hill have added something since their inclusions and the comp is only getting bigger and better. I'm keen to see New Lambton resume rivalries with those three former ZPL clubs mentioned.
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Originally Posted by NewyTy
Good to hear, new clubs will add value to the comp..... Can confirm Toronto are having a kick Sunday @10am... GO AWAY might have more details on it also
Toronto had a good turn out with there pre season kick about, good mix of the young locals plus a few from in town coming back apparently heard they have signed a guy named Grub?? Jones???? as the 19s coach, huge asset from what ive been told in mentoring the youth at the club
Unfortunately not mate, on other side of lake these days and involved with an NPL club over there, keen interest in Toronto Awaba still, once said by a former player that all Toronto boys know " Once a stag, always a stag " hope they go wellQuote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
Graeme Jones, huge asset to the stags, one of the best and most underrated coaches in Newcastle, should be coaching NPL but a huge coup for the stags.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
Indeed Once a stag, always a stagQuote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
I know everyone is happy to see new lambton go into this different league but what a lot haven't mentioned is what is happening with all the guys from there lower grades that aren't eligible now due to age restrictions, as would be the case with most teams in the zone leagues, and generally these players are the ones who run the clubs, the older guys who have been there for a long time and won't be able to get a game now. Will they still hang around without being able to play and does the club loose all its history having to overhaul there whole playing roster. It can be a big issue if the money runs out or the people who pushed to go up leave who steps in, if the ones who didn't want to go up are gone because there not given a game anymore. Are they applying to put a team in zl3, personally would be dissapointed to see all those players shafted for some to say they now are in the new fm
The majority of our 1st grade and reserve grade will trial to make the team. New players will be added to fill in the holes left by players not wanting to step up. We already have a ZL2 team, and some players (3rd grade and maybe some reggies) will be filtering down to these teams. Reserve grade won the ZPL premiership with half the team being under 23, so those guys can step straight up hopefully. The older ones may be considered for the overage players in this team. Some new players will be recruited though, so there are no guarantees. However, our Club Selection Policy states that New Lambton players are to be given preference where possible, and all teams have percentage targets for New Lambton Juniors. A main driver for the club is providing a pathway for it's 1300 junior players to elite senior football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldogs 1962
Realistically though, yes some players will be put out due to different age restrictions, but that is a consequence of progress. New Lambton was a First Division club many years ago, and we want to get it back where it belongs. Having options is always best, so players will have the NewFM, ZL2 and All-Age competitions to choose from, which ensures that all current players are given an opportunity to remain part of the club.
I understand your points but realistically how competitive can you be without large influx of players for first grade, not like use completely dominated zpl, so then a lot of players who miss out on a spot go down to zl2, if they are happy to go down to zl2 (which is a major step down) what happens to all zl2 players, surely can't be happy to play all age, just seems like a huge amount of current players who have put in for the club shoved out to say the club has now gone to New FM Como,Quote:
Originally Posted by howardyou
Stags have announced there trials on the Facebook page I see, have heard the AGM was a positive outcome
Any thoughts on them making the finals?
No
I'm interested to see how much interest/competition there is amongst clubs given the lack of promotion.
Splashing cash on players is pointless and I think a lot of clubs will look to nurture their youth, which is in itself a great outcome but may drop the overall skill of the competition. A lot of players will be cut from NPL this year, so that may be of some benefit to clubs picking up players that are 20-23.
The best thing that NNSW can do is announce how the NPL licenses and competition will be decided in 2020. Results? Criteria?
Imo, waiting 2.5 years before deciding where the goalposts will be moved to is ridiculous and very unfair. Clubs deserve the right to know what they can improve and how they will be judged in the future to give them time to implement whatever it is they need to.
I've not heard anything off field related from the AGM. Only on the field with some of the better 1st Grade players having offers from NPL clubs to return to the 20s set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
I think the Criteria should be made public - like yesterday. These next 3 years NNSW need to be transparent with everything and try to win back some goodwill from the public and clubs.
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Originally Posted by The Postman
Ahkk cheers postman, eitherway ill enjoy sitting on the hill having a few beers cheering on the local coach who is loved by the old boys!
Thanks rutta, haha :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
Hopefully get propmoted to ZL1 and have 3 grade teams again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldogs 1962
Can there be 2 ZL teams?....eg ZL2 & ZL3 from 1 club. I have heard some thoughts but not the officials rules on this.
Use to like being called barge arse back in the day!Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
there is no reason why you shouldnt be able to... If the club is big enough and have the resources (by that I mean not monetary as such, but field avaliablity and quality standard no problem) why not good for the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
(we have clubs over here that have teams in the same league as each other and Im not meaning similar to All age teams)
To the point about players leaving cause of the promotion of New Lambton being unhappy etc..
Lets see, they have been promoted for a reason and it seems have showed some very good management throughout the club..
Solutions need to be sought.. If they leave thats up to the club to sort out plus if your doing things for the right reasons, people will stay at a club despite what happens if they feel connected to it.
Congrats to the promotion and hope they succeed like every other club in improving in all aspects of the club and achieving their set goals.
For stronger football in the Hunter.
The idea that clubs shouldn't aim for promotion because some original players might not be good enough/leave the club is laughable.
Agree. Jonsey will do well and the stags could be a dark horse!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Chris Gallagher confirmed to be coaching Wallsend FC next season. That just leaves Southy as the only club yet to name a head coach.
Heard Southy announced Denis Fajkovic as Head Coach with his father Dalibor as assistant.
Is that his first coaching gig?
Abe Wheelhouse
Todd Cawley
Jason Cowburn
To stags
Chris Bowling helping with some junior input
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Originally Posted by GO AWAY
Splashing the cash? Who is coming up with it GO AWAY, all those names would want decent $$$
Not much cash needed mate, todd hasn't played for a while, cowby and abe blackalls boys so theyd be coming for the love of the club hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
I hope they do being a local would love nothing more then seeing Rudda coach with the loyal boysQuote:
Originally Posted by GO AWAY
however come round 1 will be surprised if they are running out for the beloved Stags!
Hodgo is joining Kahibah with the Kepreotes brothers to follow. Big gains for Kahibah but big losses for Wallsend. No doubt more player signings to come and news will probably filter out once most trials are over next week.
On Toronto, I heard Abe wasn't going to go there. Things change of course and those names would be big inclusions out at Stags.
Huge news Ty, I assumed hodgo was friends with rudda and I thought he may of been a chance at the stags?Quote:
Originally Posted by NewyTy
How are things at the new home Ty? Enjoying it at Kahibah, any other news with coaches and players they are trying to get? No cooks hill boys following you?
Massive signing for Kahibah. Heard Graham Law and Cooks Hill were chasing as they are a few players but after speaking with him, Hodgo seems pretty happy for a change of scenery. There's no ill-feelings with Wallsend either. Think he just wants a new challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
It's been quiet over the past month but Kahibah six-a-side comp starts next week so it'll be a good way to kickstart life at a new club. Funny enough, Gumpsy came all the way into town to pick me up and take me to the Hodgo signing as they wanted Newysports to have exclusive news. One of Cooks Hill's coaches from last year has joined up at Kahibah but as far as any players, haven't heard anything. Have heard Cookers have lost a lot of quality 17/19's talent.
With trials next week, some teams will start to be announced over the coming weeks. Keen as to start a new pre-season and see what every club brings to the table. I'll sound bias but I truly believe Kahibah will be there in the finals again. Hodgo and the Kepreotes brothers are quality additions. No other club has really shown their hand yet so to speak. Lots of dark horse teams (Cooks Hill with Law as coach could be good, Thornton, Westy) and the big ones (Belswans/Wallsend) who'll push for finals again. Regardless of alliances with clubs, ultimately I think everyone would have to be hoping to see a more even First Grade competition instead of a solid top four for the majority of the year.
Finally signed up, after being an observer for a while now.
Just some thoughts on the teams for next year.
Cessnock - Making major changes, new Coach is not afraid to rock the apple cart and upset the locals. And he has the Committees support, so they very well could be a dark horse with a couple of quality signings from out of the area.
Wallsend - Where to start, loose their high profile coach who brought a certain pulling power with him. Evidence by the players leaving - Hodgo + Kepos x2 and possibly more. Will be interesting to see who they replace these guys with, otherwise I don't see them making the finals.
Cooks Hill - If Law can bring along some players from Adamstown they will be much better off. Hard to win consistently with guys just happy to be there and get on the piss. Then need top line players to push them higher up the ladder.
Belswans - Should be pushing for top 2. With Rufo coming in with his brother they will bring a lot of quality to an already decent team.
Toronto - Those players mentioned haven't even played for 1,2 or 3 years, hard to see what impact they will have if they even actually end up playing for Awaba. Could be the case of 2 steps forward, one step back unfortunately.
Kahibah - It appears Gumps playing days might be officially over with Kahinah signing some big names. Plus their young guys Penfold, Demir etc they will be hard to beat. Heard another rather controversial name is also coming from Wallsend too.
Southy - If Faj can pull a coulple names from his mates playing NPL they will much improved from 2015.
Singo, Westy, Thornton - All seem to be keeping their business and recruitment in house. All have decent coaches so it is good sign that they are keen on developing their younger players.
New Lambton - Who knows really, massive surprise packet. Signing Packer as Head Coach and TD is a great start, might be some hidden gems in their junior system coming through. Good for the Comp having them in.
Hard to see anyone but Kahibah or Belswans coming first. Will be very tight for the other spots though. I'm actually in favour for the bye too, couple reasons - allows clubs to hold functions, players can go on holidays and just gives people a break in what is such a long season anyway.
I do wonder if a team fails to meet the minimum criteria every year will they be dropped down to ZL during the 3 year period? And if a team fully meets NPL criteria, will they be promoted before the next application period?
Pretty sure it'll be 3yrs before they re-assess & possibly promote/relegate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardly Watching
Gazzard and cook from wallsend to belswans
So why all the peeps jumping ship from wallsend?
Any other name signings floating around? Spoken to a few of the locals from Toronto and apparently have signed all players from last year plus a few inclusions to bolster the young kids up
Any early predictions ty? Kahibah seem to have recruited well, coach of the 22s is a Toronto local also, so is the 19s coach. Wonder why they chose Kahibah over Stags? Belswans with Josh and the Wallsend Connections will be strong, any surprise packets? I am biased but can see Toronto performing well under the old boy
I've heard opposite out of Toronto. More players leaving than staying but I'm not as close to that team as I am with others.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
Without sounding too harsh, I'd say they've chosen Kahibah due to a higher standard over the past season or two. Toronto is still re-building itself as a premier club in NewFM. Kahibah have a strong community bond, a good leadership and a committed board. There's a tonne of players from the Toronto/West Lake area playing for Kahibah too. If Stags can get back to the quality of yesteryear then those players and coaches may return. That being said, the wider competition community isn't expecting much from Stags so they could fly in under the radar.
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Originally Posted by NewyTy
Yet when they get punted from those clubs they will want to come back? Why don't more come back when its need to help rebuild... Im sure the younger ones would learn heaps of the current coach, I seen the current Kahibah 19s coach at the local pub chatting with the new stags coach, so things mustn't of went ahead the way they both wanted... Local lad would be good to get them all back!
Huge preseason planned! COYS!!!!
The players won't get punted if they're good enough. The ones that are at Kahibah are all good enough to be there. Kahibah closer to becoming an NPL club than Stags in my eyes. And I judge Routledge is the 'current coach' we're talking about. I along with many others sees the idea of a 17's coach appointed to 1st Grade as a risk. I don't know Adam's history at the club but he's not going to attract assistant and lower grade coaches like a Gumprecht, a Law or a Rufo would.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSam
lol...move onQuote:
Originally Posted by BigSam