Jones is Out (pg 49)

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Originally Posted by MFKS

So what exactly has been good about Hoole since he returned??

His set pieces which are either over hit or under hit dramatically
His ability to hack opponents and pick up a cheap card
His lack of interest in chasing back when he coughs up the ball
His inability to put pressure on an opponent in defence
His ability to fall over ridiculously easily
His goal scoring prowess
His constant turning in the same direction
His lack of forward running off the ball

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Exactly what about him makes him a good signing??

Because to me he was a much more effective player 2 years ago than now



Point still stands what support has Jones had from Ledman ? ?

A couple of bargain basement signings in an untried kid and an over the hill Fyfe

FFS people think I am overly critical but Jones is trying to Polish some other clowns turd here with nothing from above in support


As I said 90% of this squad Millertime gave the gig to
Same like who gave Poljak a two year deal
Same bloke resigned Kanta who let's face it has done **** all the last few years to warrant a contract extension
Same bloke signed Nortstand when it is pretty evident he is getting old quickly

Millertime made so many shit decisions yet you happy to pass up the responsibility he faces and blame the poor sod stuck taking the reigns of this ongoing cluster****

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My point was you choose Hoole but ignore Uga, Nordstrand, Vujica, Brown, Nabbout who have shown enough quality to suggest we should be playing better. Maybe it's a coincidence that the first two have struggled under a different manager? Maybe not. I've never said Miller was perfect but **** me what has Jones got? Why isn't the team playing with any heart? Why didn't fire up when Kokko got clocked in the jaw by a Mariner no less?

And Hoole has been ****ing rubbish, so why hasn't Jones benched him?

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Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast

Most of the Asian leagues have finished their season, there is plenty of Aussie talent over there, that might come back for decent $

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Decent $? I guarantee you Brennan, Coops & Pav are not on decent $. And would you like us to put all our eggs in one basket and throw all our money at one guy and then have no $ left to sign players.... kind of like now...
Tinks paid over the odds for Boogs, and that created a hole in our cap which we are still suffering from now.

Also. Agreed on Hoole. The only reason he gets 90 minutes every week is because he never puts enough effort in to be tired by the 70th minute.
Ma didn't offer a great deal in his first start, but at least he literally ran his ass off until he couldnt run anymore.

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Originally Posted by halo se7en

My point was you choose Hoole but ignore Uga, Nordstrand, Vujica, Brown, Nabbout who have shown enough quality to suggest we should be playing better. Maybe it's a coincidence that the first two have struggled under a different manager? Maybe not. I've never said Miller was perfect but **** me what has Jones got? Why isn't the team playing with any heart? Why didn't fire up when Kokko got clocked in the jaw by a Mariner no less?

And Hoole has been ****ing rubbish, so why hasn't Jones benched him?

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Nortstand in my opinion is over the hill.

Last year he came in and showed enough just to get a deal
I think the club and Millertime misjudged his fitness level

As a result have made a dud buy

Nabbout has shown something which is missing from the rest of his teammates.
He actually plays direct and doesn't give a **** about GVES keep ball ad nauseum shit his teammates are afflicted by
Injury though has ****ed him twice this season already

Ugarkovic is struggling as the rest of the ****s about round him are shit.
No one up front is capable of holding the pill so who the **** can he pass it too
His colleagues in DM are worse at breaking up play than him.

So he does way too much running in defence

He is struggling due to quality of the ****s around him.

As for Brown being much chop??
People are having a laugh.

The biggest joke this club has inflicted on Members this season was really signing this bloke on the back of 3-4 games.
Since then he has done nothing and is ineffectual.

Let's face it if he was any good he would be making a living in the British lower leagues but is instead over here sucking the mango as they don't want him

I will go as far as Millertime had a better side last year

Milos Carney Alivodic Leonardo

Offered much more than

Kokko
Hoole Brown Nabbout

Point is Millertimes signings are arguably much worse this season as he has assembled a poorer quality squad and failed to address some glaring issues within the squad

The other issue with Brown is that he started him in the 10, he provided a goal threat and looked handy around the box, but quickly realised our DMs and defenders cant pass, and we have noone to hold up the ball, so Brown was not involved.
So he then moved him back to get him involved in the play more, but he then has no forward options to play as Hoole never looks to get in behind as all he does is drift in field and lose the ball. So thus Brown has become frustrated and useless.

I can't agree with MFKS about Koko. He's got a lot of talent and anyone that can continue playing with a fractured jaw is a true competitor in anyone's language.
Interesting comments by MFKS about Ugarkovic and how those around him make him look bad.
And yet Wayne Brown is surrounded by the same players and not afforded the luxury of the very same excuse.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

I can't agree with MFKS about Koko. He's got a lot of talent and anyone that can continue playing with a fractured jaw is a true competitor in anyone's language.
Interesting comments by MFKS about Ugarkovic and how those around him make him look bad.
And yet Wayne Brown is surrounded by the same players and not afforded the luxury of the very same excuse.

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What talent has Kokko got??

So far he has shown us shit.

He missed a tap in to an empty net v the Nix from 6 yards where thank for him it had trickled out already.
He also missed a gaping goal v the Gypos that would have gave us the ****ing win.

So exactly what has he offered so far??

Not a hell of a lot of positives.

Takes balls to play with a broken jaw?? That the only thing he can hang his hat on.

As for Brown I going to call it.
The bloke is a English player who had his shot at the big time not work out as he just wasn't good enough. He isn't physically big enough to cut it in the lower leagues and make a career out if it in Britain.

Instead his agent finds some dumb **** club and let's him sucking the mango as a pro footballer for a few more years.

We just the dumb ****s who pay the tab

I just don't rate him. Couple of flashy goals mean **** all to me. Thete ain't much to the rest of his game that makes me think we have a great player on our hands. We have just wasted our foreigner spot on this bloke for 3 years for no reason

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Originally Posted by MFKS

What talent has Kokko got??

So far he has shown us shit.

He missed a tap in to an empty net v the Nix from 6 yards where thank for him it had trickled out already.
He also missed a gaping goal v the Gypos that would have gave us the ****ing win.

So exactly what has he offered so far??

Not a hell of a lot of positives.

Takes balls to play with a broken jaw?? That the only thing he can hang his hat on.

As for Brown I going to call it.
The bloke is a English player who had his shot at the big time not work out as he just wasn't good enough. He isn't physically big enough to cut it in the lower leagues and make a career out if it in Britain.

Instead his agent finds some dumb **** club and let's him sucking the mango as a pro footballer for a few more years.

We just the dumb ****s who pay the tab

I just don't rate him. Couple of flashy goals mean **** all to me. Thete ain't much to the rest of his game that makes me think we have a great player on our hands. We have just wasted our foreigner spot on this bloke for 3 years for no reason

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So you agreed Nabbout has been good, and that Nordstrand & Ugarkovic have suffered this season... but you criticize Miller's signings and refuse to hold Jones accountable for anything. You complain about Kokko because he didn't score twice when he should have, but claim that Brown has done nothing but score a couple of goals.

The funniest part is you don't seem to know what you're complaining about anymore.

How good is it having the Member back on deck. Place was not the same without him.

This place was so much nicer without The Member.

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Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast

This place was so much nicer without The Member.

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We should make a play for ernie merrick to become our manager!?!

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Originally Posted by white city

We should make a play for ernie merrick to become our manager!?!

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He's only had success when he's had teams with plenty of money behind them - and even then he managed to have some shockers as well.
Total waste of time and money bringing him to Newcastle.

Let's put it that way:
I don't think Kokko will turn out to be a Fornaroli, Brown a Castro, Nordstrand a Brandan, Hoole a Rojas, Nabbout a BenKhalfala..... etc etc... Cowburn and Vujica are no Elrich.... Boogs and Mullen are no Wilkinson....
Poljack and Kanta are no...things ...and then we've got Hoffman!....:lulzturtle:

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

Total waste of time and money bringing him to Newcastle.

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So you're saying he's perfect for our club then?

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Originally Posted by plague

So you're saying he's perfect for our club then?

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He arrives tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast

He arrives tomorrow.

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I heard 6-8 weeks.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

He's only had success when he's had teams with plenty of money behind them - and even then he managed to have some shockers as well.
Total waste of time and money bringing him to Newcastle.

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You could expect better recruitment from Ernie IMO. In terms of coaching I don't think he'd be any worse. At least he's had success somewhere.

I'd have Ernie anyday compared to Muppet No2 aka Mark Jones
Ernie has at least won something in his life.
Aloisi couldn't win a game at Heart now he's flying
Maybe Jones should try his luck elsewhere (without the security of his mates backing him)

Just saw this in relation to our NFL named counterparts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy9tUJvXEAAAEsQ.jpg

Perfect, really.

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Just saw this in relation to our NFL named counterparts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy9tUJvXEAAAEsQ.jpg

Perfect, really.

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How many orders have been taken so far?

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

Let's put it that way:
I don't think Kokko will turn out to be a Fornaroli, Brown a Castro, Nordstrand a Brandan, Hoole a Rojas, Nabbout a BenKhalfala..... etc etc... Cowburn and Vujica are no Elrich.... Boogs and Mullen are no Wilkinson....
Poljack and Kanta are no...things ...and then we've got Hoffman!....:lulzturtle:

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Elrich wasn't even an Elrich until he left here