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Isn't this the same as any judicial process. If your are found guilty of a crime and sentenced but don't agree with that sentence appeal it, the right to appeal doesn't guarantee that you will get off. It all depends on how good your argument is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Issue is the way the MRP works is they are a law unto themselves. The punishment is set and if you want to argue it you are getting longer.
The whole system stops you arguing your case as the rewards are not there as the odds are stacked against you.
Take Tiago Calvano's suspension for the manhandling of a ref. FFS?? All those weeks for that??
They had a case to argue the penalty was excessive but were never gonna be allowed to win so choose to accept it.
The whole system is wrong wrong wrong
This is probably where league handle it well, where the Match Review Committee sites the player and they come and argue their case BEFORE the ruling is handed down.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
League isn't much better. They have a grading system and most of the time it is in the players interests to take a Guilty plea as they avoid suspension where fighting it could risk a week on the sidelines regardless of any mitigating circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Moral is if they want to argue their case they NEED to be ALLOWED to with out a system in place to DISCOURAGE them from doing so.
Basically the whole system is designed to SHUT THEM UP FROM COMPLAINING
Don't like the grading system, meant more generally the process of being cited and then appearing before to argue.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Who remembers Jim Comans - Griff woulda got 18 months !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
What's the club going to appeal?
Isn't everyone in agreement of what was said and who said it?
What's the grounds for appeal?
I thought it was pretty straight forward.
Good idea questioning their integrity though Middleby, can't wait to see the next Jets bloke up for suspension. Probs get life.
That's it really...what is there argument going to be...Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Jets: "he didn't hear the full time whistle"
MRP: "can't see that in the rule book"
Jets: "heat of the moment"
MRP: "can't see that in the rule book"
Jets: "he's been in China for 5yrs and forgot English"
MRP: "same rule in china"
Jets: "ah come on we'll be your friend"
MRP: "extra week for wasting our time...learn the rules"
End of...
he should have said it in ChineseQuote:
Originally Posted by redwah
"He told the truth"
most refs are shite but you cant have players abusing and manhandling them
我不会说英语Quote:
Originally Posted by joel31
I'd have been more disappointed if Griffo had said nothing to Williams.
If people can't accept Griffo as he is they have a problem not him.
In a world where people are politically correct arse lickers it's refreshing to have someone like Griffo tell it like it is.
Hail Griff.
I accept him how he is and I've served a suspension or two for some similar outbursts but I didn't get paid to play so missing multiple weeks wasn't a waste of what little money the club has. I want him on the park, not watching from the grandstand count his cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
redwah wont last long here, too logical.
Where did he man handle the ref??Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
What was said is the issue here. Was it worthy of 2 weeks??
Hope to see the same consistency from the officials on the other 9 HAL teams yet know we won't
Griffo has been victimised
If its all about what was said, then shouldnt Kevin Muscat be sitting in the stands after a minute of every single game??Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Look at teams like Man U (yes, I know its a bit different in the Premier League), but every decision against them and you have 8 blokes surrounding the ref calling him every swearword under the sun..
Heart - Perth in Albury!!!???.. in February / 3pm / 42 degrees!!!.. Gallas to wear his Germany06 cap during the game / a dozen drink breaks....... FFA out
Tony S has given them a full broadside too.
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An enraged Tony Sage has called for Sunday's clash between Perth Glory and Melbourne Heart in Albury to be called off with temperatures in the NSW border town forecast to hit 42 degrees.
Glory's outspoken owner said the 3pm (AEDT) fixture would place player's "lives at risk" and was in danger of breaching FFA's own Wet Bulb Globe Temperature index – the system it has adopted to determine whether it is safe to proceed with matches as the mercury peaks.
Turning the blowtorch on Football Federation Australia over what he labelled a "ludicrous and ridiculous" decision to schedule an afternoon kick-off "in a stadium in the middle of nowhere", Sage declared: "God knows why this game was arranged in the first place … it should not go ahead to protect the players and match officials.
"Will it take somebody to die on the field for FFA to act? Going over there is an absolute nightmare for us and the game makes no sense whatsoever.
"I can see a situation where FFA will be forced to postpone it, which is right. But what would that then say about the league?
"I am staggered as to who in their right mind would come up with the idea of playing a game there? Not only that, the same person then picked us to fly across the country to be a part of it.
"If it had to go ahead then it should be have been scheduled for a 7pm kick off and FFA should have a chosen a team located in the east of the country to provide the opposition.
"Everybody knows it's incredibly hot in Albury (situated on the NSW-Victoria border) at this time of year, so why go there?
"I am sure nobody will turn up to watch it – and even if they do they will be huddled into a tiny stand that holds 1500 people."
The A-League is set to institute its heat policy for the match, which will mean a drinks break in each half.
Glory was involved in a spat with FFA after its 1-1 draw against Adelaide United in November, claiming the 32 degree heat at the 2.30pm kick-off time put players' welfare in peril, with several suffering vomiting, headaches, sunburn and excessive weight loss after the encounter.
FFA insisted the game was played in conditions that were "acceptable", according to its Wet Bulb Globe Temperature gauge.
"FFA follows a heat policy that was developed and implemented by the FFA Head of Medical Services, Dr Jeff Steinweg and which is consistent with the American College of Sports Medicine's Position Statement," Head of A-League Damien de Bohun said at the time.
"This policy is guided by the Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) which takes into account the air temperature, humidity, wind, and radiation to provide a more accurate indicator of the risk of heat related injuries."
But Sage insisted: "I suspect conditions on Sunday will be unplayable, even under the WBGT guidelines. If FFA don't cancel it then it will be on their heads if a referee or any players succumb to heat exhaustion. The fixture really is an absolute joke."
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/...r-Albury-clash
We played Nux in 45 degrees, pussies....
And we still lost !