I dunno, I reckon Petr Cech signing up as an Ice Hockey Goal keeper was the biggest news of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
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I dunno, I reckon Petr Cech signing up as an Ice Hockey Goal keeper was the biggest news of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
you shut the hell up and let queen colleen have her time shes solving mysteries!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by frodo
Is anyone else a bit sick of seeing England act like the bastions of world peace and denouncing anyone they play against as racist Neanderthals that don't deserve to even have a national side... Even though England still has a huge and deep rooted problem with racism themselves???
I get why Bulgaria should be in trouble, racism is ridiculously shit, but the UK media and the team spent weeks stirring the pot and incite the ultras to do it. And then cried like little school girls once it happened. Then had to gall to sing songs about how racist Bulgaria were as if they've never thrown a banana at a player, or made monkey faces at them, or sung anti-Semitic songs during games...
**** any racist football fan or racist person in general, but also **** any British person right now acting like it doesn't happen from them.
Side rant. What happened to all the England players who said they'd walk off as soon as they heard any racist jeers or chants from the crowd? Did they realise it could hurt their qualifying campaign if they walked off and the ref classified it as forfeit? Maybe next time don't act like you're bigger than UEFA if you don't have the backing of your employer (FA) and can't actually go through with it.
yeah the English press made a thing out of the national team players being really grown up and sensible about handling racism because they are so used to copping it from home fans that they are now seasoned vets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
it was a real weird flex.
to be fair i found it even weirder that Harry Kane jumped in and claimed that the racism directed at Sterling was actually his and he should be credited with it.
ROFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
He will deservedly be beaten with that stick for the rest of his career. What a twat he is.
Fish in a barrel my man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
And I'm here with all of the bullets.
Spot on - dunno what the other outlets are like but the BBC has three "agenda" items it likes to push daily - women's football, racism and Manchester United.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I'm from a "sticks and stones, turn the other cheek" generation. It's wrong but the way the English media handles it inflames the situation.
That is what happens when your country embraces virtue signalling as currency
These woke EPL stars try to out do one another with it
Just like all the nutters in the NFL and NBA seem to think they have a platform to shove their leftist politics down everyone's throats too
Dont know how these poor ****ers on hundreds of thousands of pounds each week are dealing with racism whilst they eating with gold plated knives and forks
i dunno, maybe because racism is ****ed and no one should put up with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
So exactly where is the income line that racism isnt ok? you've obviously got some sort of award document that tells you where it kicks in right?
you're probably the bloke who thinks when hookers and porn stars get raped its not a big deal "shes out there shagging everyone anyway".
The irony is at a football game involving 2 national sides where national pride is being celebrated and displayedQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
you are honestly surprised that racial superiority doesn't come into the equation
Thought you were much smarter
You think Anti racism is just Leftie politics now? Cause that shit is pretty much centrist to everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Yes it is leftist politics to a teaQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Identity politics is one of the lefts favourite tools
Those ****s are paid to play football
Just as Kapernick WAS paid to play NFL
Maybe they should actually stick to that subject and leave the politics alone
remind me again which countries are cool with racism?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
because you're confusing national pride with racism. It is very very easy to have one without the other.
Didnt see them making monkey noises at the white English players.
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Originally Posted by MFKS
Firstly anti racism is for everyone who isn't a racist. It's not a left thing, only an idiot or a bigot would think otherwise. Take your pick.
Secondly, politicians are the people we shouldn't be leaving politics too. They look after the people who keep them in a job, and that isn't the local punter placing their votes every few years.
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Originally Posted by MFKS
you do realise that having someone chant monkey noises at you isnt politics right?
you do understand thats some racist bullshit right?
I dont see Raheem Sterling out on the pitch waving a Bernie Sanders flag. Hed just like to go about his profession without all the monkey noises.
Thats not politics.
Most people don't give a flying duck about raceQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
It is the left who constantly bring everything back to race with their identity politics
So who are the racists again? ?
They are footballersQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
They are paid to kick a football about
Maybe they should stick to that
UEFA have options available to sanction FAs for Dan behaviour that breaches rules
It is the players who keep making this about them with their virtual signalling at every opportunity
It was Harry Kane who chose to open his mouth after the game and talk up his virtual signalling agenda rather than discuss the game and the result etc
As I said maybe they should actually stick to football
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Originally Posted by MFKS
They are football fans
They are paying to watch a football get kicked about
Maybe they should stick to that
ima hang for a bit because i know you are doing your thing and are prob talking your way into yet another ban but the 'stick to football' is def an interesting thing.
We've seen it this week where the usually woke NBA brigade went real silent when they realised their views might cost themselves some money.
I agree its easy to jump on the bandwagon (Trump hate, cop hate etc) but geez it was interesting seeing players go silent on a pretty fundamentally basic issue.
also funny were the 'stick to sports' brigade now wanting these guys to not stick to sports.
i honestly believe that the richer you get the more cowardly you become. financial comfort is a freedom plenty of people are not willing to jeopardise.
The first point is almost true, the majority of the world doesn't care what race someone is. It's the racists who do.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
And you're saying it's the fault of the person who called the racist out that a problem exists, rather than the racist. They should have just shut up and played football and not listened to the whistling and chants directed at them because it's in their contract? Basically, if someone is at work they are allowed to be racially abused according to your logic.
Let me guess, women also shouldn't complain about sexual assault if they are at work?
But yeah, somehow bring up the Left again in the hope that the word wins an argument for you rather than any facts.
You know the kids got in trouble when they made the cool guy come out and read his little prepared speech in front of the school.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
So Saturday night we are just to sit there and watch that site without mentioning the Gypos inbreeding Hutches mum and what we think of Matt SimonQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Ok
Staying silent??Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
The NBA players??
They been coming out of the wood work trying to defend Communist China and attacking anyone who speaks up on Hong Kong protests
Rather ironic that these rich ****ers living in the land of Capitalism and free speech are supporting a nation who don't and are actively targeting a province of theirs who supports Capitalism and Free Speech
If what you are saying that only racists care about race is true then that would mean that the left with their identity politics are racist thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
They the ones who keep bringing it up
Throw in your virtue signallers too as they can't wait to bring up race
As for your other points if the virtue signallers and practitioners of leftist politics are inherently racist then there constantly calling a problem out is only exacerbating it
Apparently in 2019 we live in an age of wall to wall racism and white supremacy and the patriarchy etc thanks to these idiots
man oh man one day you're gonna read the posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
the silence is on both the subject of the tweet at the centre of it all, which no one has addressed.
the silence is also on the one fundamental issue at the core of it all. Not the protests, not China, not Hong Kong, not democracy, not the money but the peoples individual right to freedom of speech. All any of these players had to say was "im not informed enough in China politics to comment but as Americans we have to respect Daryl Moreys right to free speech".
Thats all any of them needed to say. Now, the NBA commissioner ended up saying this in about the 30th moronic statement his PR team whipped up but by then the damage had been done.
Im absolutely fine with all the players saying "hey man ima be quiet and protect that paycheque". Ive no issue with that at all, its the fumbling attempt to remain 'woke' without saying anything is what the funny part is.
just admit you'd rather the money, its ok to do that.
if you cant tell the difference between being a bigot and not being a bigot then nothing you read on the foz here is gonna help you by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
i wish you all the best on your journey though.
Point being is it is a fine line for when a crowd crosses the line and stays within the boundariesQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
The players ain't the ones who Police it just as it ain't Boogaard or Dimis job to tell us to behave on Saturday
The FA and UEFA have more than enough pull to deal with the issue of Bulgarian fans misbehaving
The players are making it about themselves by using the media as a vehicle to virtue signal
If they had any credibility they would have walked off the pitch as they have threatened to do on several occasions but have continued to fail to do so
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ce-investigate
Now Plague
These guys showed more spine than those virtue signalling fools in the EPL representing England did
Least they had the balls to walk off the pitch and abandon a game
yeah i saw that. it will be interesting to see how it all unfolds as I believe that the team with the racist fans was actually winning 1-0 at the time of the walk off.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
will also be interesting to see how Yeovil handle it too. they promised to help authorities but lets face it, there were 6 blokes and a dog supporting that team. everyone there knows who the alleged racist was. think they are gonna finger one of their own.
so lets flip it around. how would you deal with it? punish the club? who wins the tie? because some suit now has to try and answer all these questions to the approval of a lot of people. lets hear how the Good Member would solve it.
Just clarifying you want my opinion here is that right??Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Well how about the do Gooding PC Virtue Signalling Leftist who decided to make the whole racism in football campaign answer it
Because it is that clown who owped the Pandoras Box here
They are the one to answer it Because they deserve the criticism
The problem with their model of social justice is that equality of outcome is a bull shit idea
They have chosen to impose an idea on Football that sees a requirement for equality of outcome
Their job to explain that to the masses now
Sport and Politics don't mix for a reason
yeah yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
just wondering how you would solve the issue of the match itself.
i mean, the team walked off and they were losing. How do we solve the issue of the match itself. not the racism, i dont expect you to solve that.
its just a weird situation.
I still think nothing is the answerQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
You kick the Yeovil club out then all you are doing is encouraging ****wits to go buy a ticket to their rivals games and get them kicked out of things
Everton fans be queuing up to get tickets to Anfield to cost Liverpool the EPL and they be pissing themselves laughing when it happened. ****s would be having whip around to get the bloke out on bail too and the **** wouldn't have to buy a beer ever again
They are opening the biggest Pandoras Box trying to be touching this subject
Ever thought about just punishing the person committing the act? Or does your unnecessary outrage skim past such simple acts of common sense...Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
And punishing individuals works how well on this issue??Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Hasn't worked despite decades of attempts
Why you think sanctioning an individual is going to remove a societal problem that is also deeply entwined with our tribalistic nature we are all blessed by??
So Yeovil go through to the next round?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Because then you're flipping it around and saying racially abusing an opposition player is a legitimate tactic yeah?
Because it worked for Yeovil.
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Originally Posted by plague
If teams want to walk off and forfeit games based on their so called beliefs then they are more than entitled to
They want to bring their politics into sport or virtue signal then they can lose the game as a consequence
Might make them focus on actually playing football
I feel like you're a 12 yr old kid who thinks "sports" are just games that EA bring out each year. I mean, never in the history of sports has politics or human rights ever even been remotely close to an issue. Players aren't even humans really, they are walking talking contractual agreements designed for your entertainment and nothing else. You would have a been a very unhappy man at the 1936 Berlin Olympics.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Also, side note, it's not "their beliefs" it's common practice for human beings to be against racism. Racists are the minority, not the majority. Don't let the guy in the TV convince you otherwise.
So Racism is just a part of society and we should just accept it and try and ignore it? Wow you always find ways to sink lower and lowerQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
So if the ref calls it off?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
who benefits then?
Can think of better things to concern myself withQuote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
As it ain't that important of an issue in my eyes
Equality of outcome is a flawed concept