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Fitness.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Pressing concept
Defensive organisation
Getting our wingers starting more narrow and use the width of the pitch instead of hugging sidelines too much.
Shooting drills
Flog the shit out of them in pre season and harden them the **** up.
Cant argue with any of that Ill add Ball control to that list. But I still dont believe Jones is the right option but thats my option. Lets hope whoever is the coach he does a much better jobQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
In other words, things he should have been doing this season? Righto.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Jones didnt have a pre season and it isnt his squad. Member is letting Jones use this excuse where as Lawrie Mckinna and Mr Lee will notQuote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
The shit footballers he was able to win more games with than Jonesy has, you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Either way, make a decision now.
If we sticking with Jones, so be it, announce it, let him get the squad he wants, let him put his job on the line with his selections and recruitment an make a decision at the January transfer window if we are still floundering.
If we are getting somebody else, lets get them, announce them. Let's make a decision now. If we get somebody new, let's not give them the excuse of "Not my squad".
Didn't you know the moment pre-season training finishes, a coach is no longer permitted to do shooting drills, pressing, defensive organization etc. It's ok, once Jones gets his desired superstar squad, they'll be that good he won't even need to coach them.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
I'd say we'll know after the final game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
It's going to be a long off season going round and round on this topic.
Not when he is punted out a week after the season is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
i feel like the only way this foz will get better is if both BK and Biraz apply to manage the team next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
So who do we think is better, Jones or Miller or GVE. Go.
See, it can be fun.
I couldn't think of anything worse, queue the next coach complaining about not his squad, cause let's not forget lawrie said it was no excuse, you know until recently and now it's convenient to roll out the usual excuses. Not to mention having Jones boys on multiyear contracts ****ing the new manager over for another couple of years of rebuilding.... And the cycle continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Sack Jones now already, sack the ****en lot of the off contract players, get an experienced manager in with the best part of a dozen squad positions open to bring in his players from the outset, visa spots available and marques spot open for them to utilise.
fixed your mistake grim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Ernie Merrick is free.
It'll be like 07/08 all over again :wub:Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Like Jones, I'm struggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Could you imagine 2 Scots going at it?Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Legit question.
I didn't see what happened, but what exactly did Hoole do when he got subbed that set everyone off?
Also, it was very interesting to see how this was reported. I read the Herald recap and I was very impressed with the quotes that they used from both player and coach and thought both handled it really well.
But
Then I read the SBS account and (once again) they used direct quotes from Jones and he came across as a complete knob.
Apparently When Hoole was subbed he chucked a hissy and was only walking off when we were chasing the game and Zane had a go at his work rate and said something like Dont you ****ing take you head out of your hands or ill place it there for you. Thats only what ive heard from people who said they sit near the benchQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
So Jets :(Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
He cracked the shits at being subbed off.
Walked past the players sitting down, reserve keeper put his hand out to high five and Hoole did his best effort to slap his hand completely off his arm.
TBH if I'm creating a league-high amount of chances for my team to do nothing with I reckon I'd crack the shits at being subbed off too.
Probably annoyed at not getting interest from overseas clubs like Real Madrid and BarcelonaQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Shoulda spoken to Kanta for his Bayern contacts..Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
So......where has it all gone wrong?
After the win in Coffs we were sitting pretty at fifth and Nabbout was top of the Alex Tobin medal. We were playing entertaining football and even if the result didn't quite go right we were having a go and scoring goals. Since that game....
* We failed to make any January signings
* We dumped three players
* Nabbout has gone missing
* Any confidence Hoole was building evaporated
* We started playing around with our backline
* Duncan got injured
* Brown went off the boil as soon as he left in Brisbane
* Clut has vanished
* Poljak got dropped without good reason
* Miller's Scando trio of Brown. Nobby and Kokko look half the players they were
What is the core issue that has caused us to fall from 4th to a likely last in two months?
100% agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
I also don't believe Jones is the man for the job, but they either need to back him to the hilt, or cut bait
lemonparty.orgQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
According to MFKFC, Jones & Lowey - none of these can be blamed on the coaching staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Member is right, it's all the players fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Jones, Manager of the Newcastle Jets
But in all seriousness Jones is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
It the players that are the problem
Look at Nordstrand ****ing that chance up at the weekend. That just sums this lot up.
Then you throw in stuff like Jackson's air swing v Perth
Boogaard and Mullens penalties
Hoffman's og
Duncan ****ed a couple up against Adelaide too
This the problem these blokes make glaring **** ups again and again at both ends of the park
Can't coach that level of shit into people
Can't coach that level of shit out of people
****wit coach keeps selecting these blokes again and again despite these glaring errors. That's the players fault too, I assume?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
And get picked week after week by who? Jones while guys like Labi ride the pine.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Is anyone else a bit baffled by his "75%" figure?
Wouldn't at least 75% of goals conceded in every game in every league in every country in the world be attributed to an individual error?
Missed tackle, out jumped header, bad keeper position, poor defensive positioning. Aren't they all individual errors of some description?
How else do teams get goals?
Now name the blokes in our 23 man squad who ain't getting selected and are doing better than the ones that are??Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
I think every ****er has had a run at some stage this season
Seriously Plague 75%Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
That a statistic
How the **** you fall for that when it you of all people who made the infamous statement on stats
Member is speaking SOME truth. I don't think Jones is a world beating coach by any stretch but we seriously lack so much quality in this squad it's not funny. His selections are a little bit questionable but who honestly do you replace them with? Cowburn is not an upgrade on Mullen. Vujica is showing promise but honestly is still a bit of a hack. Labi is no better then any striker we have. Kokko has failed. Nordstrand is not clinical. We have no CBs who are better quality then Jackson or Boogard. Poljak, Brown and co really only offer the 'workhorse' factor in midfield and are relatively limited in their abilities with the ball. Ugarkovic is good for numerous errors a game. Kanta is less of a player then all of these guys. I think we offered a little more class when we had either Lei or Clut playing at 10. But really these guys are nothing compared to the quality we see in other squads playing in the same position.
Our coach is a hack.
Our players are shit.
Changing the coach MAY mean we attract better quality players here.
Significant investment in the playing roster is what's needed. If Jones can man manage whilst letting quality players do their thing on the pitch then keep him. If he can't then piss him off and get someone who can.
Take a look at Perth. Were horseshit with a poor roster when Lowe first in charge. Most couldn't believe Kenny kept his job. They invested heavily in the squad whilst keeping him and they've turned into a genuine finals contender every year since.
ps. I don't care if Jones is coach or not.
Just my two cents.
You're missing the point. He's not surprised at the number of 75%. More so saying (guessing here as I haven't heard where the original quote was from) that using the excuse that those goals don't count or shouldn't be a concern/his fault because one of the players made a mistake is pretty horse shit since the vast majority of goals can be attributed to an individual error somewhere along the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Fixed also Kenny Lowe should have Perth as a top 2 team with that roster but has them very incosistent. Jones has sent our squad backwards why do people assume he will do better with better players, It will still be his coaching and tactics and youre also saying keep Jones who hasn't shown enough to warrant keeping and when he ****s up sack him mid/early season which will be this season all over againQuote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
If these goals are from players mistakes Jones either finds away to cut out the mistakes or drops them for a few weeks. He is doing neither!Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Stanny ploppin' out some truth nuggets..