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I agree with you for a change MM, but why the hell was this not out in the open when it first came to light Griff was flying the coup. Its the secret society tactics at HSG that shits most people and would have put this whole Griff drama to bed pretty quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
To be fair, good on Gary coming out and facing the questions.
And cheers Grimario for copying the questions and responses!
Three parter
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If there is no room for sentimentality in sport, why did the Jets release Ryan Griffiths on a free transfer considering he was still contracted?
Gary van Egmond: No there isn't, but to have a player remain at the club that would be upset and disgruntled at having been denied the opportunity to secure his family's future would have in no way been beneficial to the club.
Gary van Egmond: That's all we have time for. I want to that all the Members and supporters for their input and questions. Apologies again for not being able to get to all of them.
I look forward to seeing you all at Hunter Stadium on Friday night to support the team and be our 12th man.
Thanks again,
Gary.
Bah, third part wasn't really required.
Didn't answer two of the Members questions.
Didn't answer my question about active support or one about responsibility of player recruitment and who is to "blame" for signing players that he deems not good enough like Bernardo.
I do what I do because I want everyone to come and play disc golf :lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Ha ha I reckon I've probably run past you guys of an arvo - always see people down at Jesmond Park course!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
I agree with the egg on this one. His brother did the same thing, and we all know how that turned out...Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
to be honest i was expecting something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVzGM99ZIMQ
Then stop by one time and have a throw. There can't be too many Grimario's in a group of disc golfers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Back on topic, GVE out.
Remembered what my other question was... I asked something along the lines of "Given RM's recent comment about finals football being the clubs goal for this season, would missing out on the top 6 be considered a failure? If that happened, would you consider your future with the club or would you work with the coaching staff to identify where it had gone wrong and fix it before next season"?
Dutchy's Golden Army
I think GVE has made it clear that the failures of the club this year are because the players not good enough and don't follow his instructions.
Blame the players not him.
GVE in.
GVE - taking on the big questions. like a seasoned pro
GVE in.
If that was the case with Ryan then I agree with GVE, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
He would remember when Joel went to Japan with GVE's blessing , got injured then came back and worked on getting a gig in China.
Playing 12-15 months straight is lunacy, no matter what the money is.
Note - that is if this is true...
Thanks Grimario for asking. Shame Jets picked that question to answer I didn't really need to hear Eggs response to it coz I knew what it would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Would have loved to him answer my question on Kale. Would have been priceless to hear if he had of critiqued the weaknesses of a yoof team player on an internet Q and A to a nobody from Joe Public's question.
Would be much better holding this shit when we haven't had a 5-0 loss 2 days earlier. Decent questions can be asked and good discussion points missed when the masses of insanity email in
Probably didn't answer the Kale question because he had to go research who he was! Not among his favourite children.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
The Favourite children who don't listen to him, by his own admission, or are they all not "his players" still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imyourhero
Think GVE needs to put his kids in the naughty corner.
It's been well documented in the last month or so that GVE prefers to have his CB pairing as one left-sided player i.e Mitchell or Ritter and one right-sided player i.e Chapman or Regan. I am baffled as to why he perseveres with playing Goodwin (a natural left-sided player) on the right!!! Goodwin is most effective when he plays wide on the left where he has space to use his skill and speed rather than cutting in from the right into cul-de-sacs.
Agree.To me its alright for your left and right flank players to interchange every now and then...maybe if the left sider takes an inswinging corner on the opposite side he remains on that side for maybe 1 or 2 plays so as to not lose shape.But to start this way and persevere with it all game tends to become pretty predictable.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Damn missed this.... Needed to know when Jonny griff was getting signed
Fuxxing hell, thanks for the championship gaz, but it's time for us to move on.
Okon in.
Hasn't Okon been thoroughly rubbished as a coach on the internet for yonks?
My top 3 would be:
1. Papas
2. Merrick
3. Milicic
But the club's top 3 is probably:
1. Deans
2. Deans
3. Deans
Don't have a problem with options 1-3. As for Merrick I am sick to death of the recycling of coaches in the HAL. New blood in Popovic and Aloisi this year have shown they can cut it when given a chance. Why do we need to keep giving blokes go after go after go.Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
Culina Kosmina Farina Miron have all had a couple of goes and achieved nothing yet they are still getting gigs
Not on my internet !Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
Pappas, sure why not.
Merick. Ugly football with a hit and miss record.
Milicic so long as we don't have to pay brisbane to take him away again.
Sticking to my word:
Gary Out.
(maybe)
no maybes haha!!Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
welcome to the dark side
Understand what you mean about the recycling of coaches, but how many of the others have won 2 championships and 2 premierships? Merrick is still the most successful coach in the league's history. And Melbourne definitely set the standard for attractive football before Ange came along.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Edit: But we've had this debate before, so no point getting into it too much. I would prefer Papas to Merrick anyway.
Regardless of the extent to which we think GVE is to blame for our lack of success, I think the club just needs a fresh face and an injection of new energy at the helm. GVE will always hold a place in the hearts and minds of Jets supporters (even those calling for his head now I suspect), but regardless of whether we make the finals from this point, I think it is time for him to move on.
merrick is the one - will organise this young rabble into a winning machine
Not a GVE fan but not sure you can blame tonights loss on him.Perth played a very defensive game and really if we took our chances we would of won.Don't think there was much wrong with our system just lacked the finishing touch.Thought Goody and Rubes were great and we missed Heskey.I might be an old cvnt but I could of played CB for us today...Smeltz by his lonesome watching the passing grid between our defenders
surly we can aspire to a manager better than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
Yeah, surely there is a better manager than the guy who has won the most championships and premierships, come on.
I am sure there are plenty of guys floating around the scottish third division that could give you merrick style football.
Interested to know why you rate Papas as an A league coach...not having a shot but have you experienced his coaching 1st hand,watched his sessions or have just been caught up in the hype ? ...wasn't he under GVE at the AIS ?Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
convincingly, and noone would have had to worry about an inquisition... but it didnt happen thus everyone out threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
So at this point, dry martinis in even though they taste like pss.
dry martinis > mid strength
Agreed. But i still love Chapman. Future Socceroos Captain. 18yo. Not bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
yeah he's composed...also quicker than I 1st thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by howardyou
Fair question.Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
On the one hand you have people like MFKS saying that we shouldn't be recycling old A-League coaches. On the other hand there's questions like this about the new crop of coaches who are hyped to no end by the media but have little to no actual coaching experience at this level.
The answer is never clear imo. A lot of the time in football you just have to take a punt. You find this not just with coaches, but also international players and goalkeepers especially. For example, why did so many people rate Birighitti before he came here? He'd played less than 5 professional football games, and how many of those had these people actually seen? In that case the hype has been justified, and that is not particularly unusual.
When it comes to new coaches, people have pointed out the success of Popovic this season, but you could have asked the same question about him before the season started (and I actually did myself). He had no high-level experience as a manager, the only experience he had was assistant at Sydney and then a 'coach' (not even assistant) at Crystal Palace. After what he has achieved this season, people have hailed him as a genius (personally I will wait and see, clearly he is an effective manager, but WSW are far less emphatic than Brisbane were under Ange).
So for Popovic the hype was also justified, but what about John Aloisi? He was given similar fanfare at the start of the season by the football 'fraternity', but his performance has been largely underwhelming in comparison. Go on the Melbourne Heart forum and you will find a similar thread to this one demanding that he be sacked as well.
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Anyway this post is already too long for my liking and I haven't even gotten on to why I would like Papas as a coach, but to summarise:
In football you have to take chances and make decisions based on hype sometimes. I see Papas as being a manager who could carry on with the work Gary has started here, but do it in a more effective manner. This is based on his results in the VPL, his experience at the AIS, how players mentioned him more than Gary, his recruitment for us in the pre-season, and public comments from him on footballing matters which show him to be a pretty sharp guy.
Can't believe GVE fluffed all those chances in front of goal tonight, ffs gaz where are your shooting boots
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Originally Posted by militiamon
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