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My recollection was that he got it up pretty early (if we are thinking about the same one).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
I recall thinking 'well done mate, just made a call and didn't wait for VAR to wade in'. (We could be describing a different situation though).
sorry, forgot you were having one of your 'bad reading days'.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I wasnt 'ragging' on anyone.
I was bemused as to why he waited til after the player got possession, dribbled then shot before raising it.
It looked to me that he was hedging his bets and I wondered if it was a new approach for touchies.
i thought the flag went up but the ref delayed the call.
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Originally Posted by belchardo
Someone explain to me how Thurgate getting pushed before Cowburn's goal is not a penalty?
from the laws of the game
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"Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play."
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"The ball is out of play when:
- it has wholly passed over the goal line or touchline on the ground or in the air
- play has been stopped by the referee"
Chris Beath besides being a **** has just shown up the VAR to be useless
Don't even know why that went to VAR...not clear and obvious, despite Speedy's rants.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
am happy with the ref making that call.
VAR provided nothing.
oh, and i swear last night there was another "late' flag from the touchy. this time shot didnt go in so didnt matter, but am positive he waited til the play was over to raise it, not when the offside player became involved.
anyone see that one? (1st half)
He picked it straight away and allowed play on for the Smurfs despite it being a clear as day off sideQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
In the second half when your trash mate Jair was getting pinged for trying to emulate Milos Trufunovics record the **** had his flag up as soon as he could gwt it up
Complete double standards in officiating
yep, it sure was interesting that the dude was anything but consistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
also, a tip of the hat to you for the Milos shoutout. well in sir.
Wtf!
Loved the Kiwi comment...."and that is why the VAR doesn't work".
They are not wrong but.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
If VAR worked then Perth would have had a penalty when Keogh was brought down by the Phoenix Keeper.
wowsers, anyone see the clear pen given to Brisbane tonight?
clear contact, clearly in the box. ref made a call and it was right.
enter VAR, who had multiple replays of the incident, and saw both contact and where the foul was.
yet they 'still' called the ref over to have a look.
now im no conspiracy theorist, but its a really bad look for the league when the VAR is actively trying to get the ref to rethink a decision against one of its big clubs.
thankfully the ref told Mr VAR to sit his ass down.
Settle the **** DownQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
FFA trying hard to help Blue Aids FC is written into the by laws of the HAL
Nothing to see here
Move Along
How is Fox though....can't see how the elbows by Mosque and Le Fondue are "accidental" after what happened to Elsey the other night.
And try as they might they couldn't swing a handball on McKay.
The pen was a joke....Tagz had no chance after waiting 4 mins.
yeah that foul by Brosque right on halftime was nasty as all hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
i was only half watching and assumed the ref gave him a yellow even though it could have been straight red.
then he gets a yellow late in the 2nd half and i thought he was off. but seems he got nothing for the earlier one. which was kind of, yanno, a ****ing joke.
also i think it was De Jong, was going 2 hands in the back on everyone all night and got away with a bunch of them. i thought the ref did a good job, and can understand why VAR looked at the Roar goal. but geez that team gets away with some dog ass bullshit.
Arnold relied on them getting away with stuff like that. Its why they struggled in the ACL refs wouldn't let him get away with that stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Brosque gets away with this type of shit because the FFA are not competent enough to do there jobs properly by allowing Referees boss Ben Wilson to keep his job even though he has failed miserably time and time again. Week after week we see shit that should see officials dropped yet they turn out the next week getting a gig.
FFA is corrupted by bias or is incompetent. There turn a blind eye approach to the way Brosque behaves on a football field is bordering on criminal. Brosque will go down as one of the biggest pieces of insubordinate shit to ever play the game in this country and the FFA and in particular Ben Wilson and his sub standard officials have allowed this to go on and on.
If being a good role model was important to being a professional footballer Brosque wouldn't even make it to the stadium as a spectator such is his standard of behavior.
totally valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
reminds me of the way Wayne Rooney used to talk to refs.
he seemed to get away with stuff that no one else would. yet i remember one of the refs (once retired) saying that its the way Rooney was and if you carded him he'd get a red every match and the refs would be blamed for killing games.
he just said it was a 'sticks and stones' type situation.
id argue that a yellow in the first 5 mins for being a cockhead would be all that is needed to curb that shit.
I'm just as disgusted by brosq*** behavior, sadly it comes as no surprise when his club is allowed to tweet this sort of shit:
82' PENALTY? WOW. Taggart goes down under no contact from @acalver96, VAR look at it and somehow it stands... 2-1#SydneyIsSkyBlue #ComeWithUs #SYDvBR
Finally it happened
SPAL v Fiorentina in Serie A
Game locked at 1-1 after 74 mins and SPAL score to take a 2-1 lead only for the **** in the VAR to get involved and call the ref to have a look
Finds a penalty for Fiorentina moments before the SPAL goal and the goal now cancelled
Fiorentina get the penalty awarded and it 2-1 to them
They did run away with it 4-1 in the end
But a monumental reversal thanks to VAR
VAR in all its ****ing failure
it also happened in the early days of VAR in the Dutch Supercup (final i think).Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
but yeah, both scenarios are the whole reason to scrap the damn thing.
exactly, where is the $3000 fine for the club for allowing this dissension against the VAR to be published on their twitter, double standard what?Quote:
Originally Posted by mic22
:popcorn:
Welcome to VAR, Champions League.
How long did that decision take?
3-4 mins and it was still probably wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Point is you couldn't be sure either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
yeah agree. VAR got it 'right', but the ref and linesman already had it right.............about 4 mins earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
plus, when the end result was a goal that good, the ref should have just said, "nah, goal was great, you dont deserve to challenge it".
So 2 VAR calls have decided knock out ties this morning.
Neither denied goal scoring opportunities and both were 50/50 calls, i.e. up the refs interpretation of the rule.
I understand VAR is here to stay but I will hate VAR forever.
[Edit] 3 chances. Roma had a 50/50 call not given in the 122nd minute.
I thought the Porto call was very very soft.
Also, I too will hate VAR forever
The problem I have is that he called a soft one for Porto and then didn't call a soft one a few minutes later for Roma. Just be consistent. VAR doesn't fix any issues, it just adds more analysis before the refs interpretation of the rule, which can change throughout the game. Nothing has changed other than action replay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
VAR calls create more indecision, anger and media coverage than a normal ref call.
So what is the point....??
If this us what the game is becoming I'll chuck the new stuff and just watch my old "Match of the Day" collection. Jimmy Hill would have none if this.
I don't hate VAR in itself.
It's just like any other tech tool: you get it, you can't wait to use it because you think it'll solve all your problems... until you realise there are times where you can do with the good old manual tools, and you start using the new toy a bit less/better. You also need to LEARN how to use it properly before you get the best out of it.
That's what happened last year (and in the first part of this season) in the A-league, and at the world cup: the tools in the (var) box couldn't wait to use the new tool and show how good it was (better, how good THEY were at using it). Now, the A-league seems to have learnt a few lessons and VAR is a lot less intrusive (or used less altogether, which is good).
I still think it's very powerful for some particular uses (ball over the line, offside, foul play etc), it just needs some common sense.
How much of a tool is Brenton Speed - smarmy claims of "getting it right" - even Garby has taken a pot shot at him.
This is the best explanation - by a ref no less.
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Mark Halsey
Verified account @RefereeHalsey
Law 12 H/B irrespective of where arm/hand is positioned doesn’t necessarily mean an offence has been committed there has to be a deliberate movement of arm/hand towards the ball, imo VAR should have never got involved,referee has to be strong and stick with his original decision
VAR is google home.
There's so many spin-off shows of VAR.
Game shows, reality shows, and I am sure there will be a red button option to watch the VAR box soon. Sponsors will have competitions based on their decisions.
More money for FIFA.
21/06/2017Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
My opinion still hasn't changed.
Just about ready to give the game away....I'll see how it affects the EPL first.
I honestly don't care if a call is right. The overall impact on the dynamics and emotion on the game is huge. Rights and wrongs and mistakes are all a part of sport. I have noticed this season I have eased off celebrating a goal and it is a weird feeling.
I hope the plastics enjoy what will be left of the game in 10-20 years time.