Potential alternative view - FFA have taken back streaming rights as part of the negotiations and Fox will still broadcast the gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Pico
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Potential alternative view - FFA have taken back streaming rights as part of the negotiations and Fox will still broadcast the gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Pico
If A-League goes will just move Bein to Fetch and bye bye Fox.
I think they will finish the season in a watered down form - no studio coverage and minimal commentary team and cameras.
Hi guys,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
The A-League on Optus makes enormous sense to me - they have the Premier League, J-League, K-League, all international and UEFA games - but I see no mention of them being in the running. FFA are either keeping this close to their chest, or Optus have no interest. I hope it is the former.
Optus' coverage is great. They have a Aussie based team for studio discussion, so would be primed and ready to go. It seems just perfect - so why no talk about it???
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Because Optus don't do any of the on ground work for those leagues. They just bought the rights from the company that produces it and stick the broadcast through their output method.
Whole different story for A-League.
Optus without a shadow of a doubt have some form of interest. But like you're saying, whether that interest is even in the playing field of realistic and for the right price is a whole different thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
The FFA don't seem to have a tonne of bargaining power here. They have seen the value of the league decline massively.
This is a very important observation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
There's a significant capital investment required to cover the A-League, should Optus invest.
I will probably also drop fox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Optus won't need to invest that heavily to broadcast, they would need to do the same as fox and engage NEP to conduct the live filming. They would need to be interested though in taking that on and the costs. That's why there was reports of FFA and clubs potentially going direct to NEP so they can control the desired quality then just on sell the final footage for broadcast same as premier league.
Kayo at $25 a month was great value for me. It covered everything I wanted and ran brilliantly on a big screen.
Optus from what I have seen runs like shit, has less interesting content for me and just doesn't offer me anything value wise.
Agreed , Optus is nothing short of tragic.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Not sure a stand alone A league would be viable. Don’t know that subscriptions would outweigh the production costs etc.
Whatever they go with, if they do, will have to be providing additional content imo. Whether that’s another football league or another premier sport.
I've not once had an issue with my Optus app, it's miles ahead of the Kayo one. So easy to find games, stats, cast, etc. Kayo app was obviously built to make you search through crap you don't care about in the hope you'll watch some of the other stuff they licence. It already feels a few years old and it was released after the Optus app one.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I ran Kayo through a Apple TV 4k 64gb Box - it was absolutely brilliant. Streamed HD to 32" monitor in my studio, 55" in Living Room, and to 65" in Lounge without any issues at all using 5ghz band.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
We could even run Cricket and Football simultaneously without losing a single frame.
The Optus one was absolute dog shit when it launched and the WC (****, that feels a long time ago) was a tragedy. It's now miles ahead IMO.
Kayo just feels clunky navigating to what you want unless it's NRL or AFL which is plastered every****ingwhere.
Just hereto remind you all about DAZN.
Optus has loads of football content specially for the premQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Isn't he in Japan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
I have Foxtel with the Sports package in HD, Have the dish on the roof and have always been happy with the picture quality. On the few occasions i have used the Optus Sport App on my Samsung phone for the EPL and " mirrored " the image from my phone to my 50inch Full HD LED TV the picture quality has been terrible to the point i have just given up watching the EPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
I am on the downside of half a century so gadgets are not my thing but i do know when i do a connection speed test on my phone WiFi'd to the house modem my speed is always 46-48 mbps and upload 17-19.
Should i be achieving a good picture on my TV via the App on my mobile ?.
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Top work, Grim.. haha
380 seems to be having Optus connection problems, where Dunst seems to be talking about the Optus vs Kayo content itself.
My opinion is Optus, outside of the WC as Grim decided to remind me of that nightmare, is a terrific app and I have loved using it. The analysis, mini-matches, extra insights, etc I have enjoyed so much of, I really like the Optus content.
Kayo I found like others have said was hard to navigate, kept sending you on tangents to basically force you to watch AFL, and I found the app in general not friendly. I also had more connection issues with this than I did Optus. And I found in the end I wanted it for German football and that was about it, the rest of the content didn't interest me enough. This was the first app I abandoned when COVID hit town.
Optus on Fetch is the best and most reliable of my providers, Fox blacks out in a storm and too much crap and ads if you go to the general channels.
My Fetch runs like clockwork at the resolution of my choosing and plenty of football on demand, minis, highlights, classics. Using the box over the app at full FTTP 100Mbps goodness helps.
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Originally Posted by Frodo
This reflects my experience and current thoughts, using both with a 4K HD Apple TVQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
By "Mirrored", do you mean cast the screen via the app or mirror the entire phone onto the TV and then open the app? Because mirroring will give you terrible quality as the phones resolution is only stretched out over the larger TV screen, whereas casting will run the app at the TVs highest resolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Yep Mirrored as in the entire phone screen on the TV. So should going out and purchasing one of those Google Chromecast thingy's overcome this ?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I hope everyone is using the 5ghz band for wi-fi and not the 2.4ghz band. The differences as far as video frame rate goes are huge.
From what I understand, most phones default to 2.4ghz wi-fi which would mostly explain peoples issues wrt frame rate and so on.
2.4ghz has enough bandwidth in theory but in reality it's so inefficient due to noise / interference that it's lucky to run at 10% of its spec.
Yep. OR an Apple TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I use both
Thank you for that, Next time i am out and near a retailer of one of these things i will grab one and give it a go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
You crazy younguns with your wireless technologies!
Until I had Fetch I plugged my Android phone into my TV using an MHL HDMI cable, cost a fiver - full HD. I think there is a similar Lightning cable for all the iSheep.
:rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
I have Android products (phone etc) but I prefer the Apple TV as the primary means of viewing Optus and Kayo along with other catchup and streaming products.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Same here. The Apple TV interface is very slick compared to the competition. Android is terrible when it comes to TV apps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Deal has been struck apparently.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...df9da395f764fe
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The A-League will remain on Fox Sports next season under the terms of a deal struck in principle between the broadcaster and Football Federation Australia.
Though lawyers still have to ratify the final document, the one-year agreement was reached after talks late into the night and continuing into Friday. It’s believed to involve a significant cut to the $57m due next year under the existing contract.
The new deal is on top of an agreement struck to show the games remaining this season, and brings the relationship between the two sides back from the brink of immediate divorce.
It remains to be seen whether the new deal still gives Fox Sports exclusivity over the vast majority of games, as the broadcaster currently has, and it’s understood that negotiations may continue over the seasons beyond next year.
The suspension of the A-League due to the coronavirus pandemic had given Foxtel, the owners of Fox Sports, the right to exit the seven year deal struck in 2016 worth $57m a year, and the company had signalled earlier this week that it intended to do so.
An invoice for nearly $15m sent by FFA to Fox on Monday – for the July-September quarter – appeared to have been the catalyst for the breakdown, with Fox removing all domestic football content from its website late on Wednesday.
But the replacement deal will allow the A-League clubs and FFA time to establish their own platform to broadcast games in the future, as well as give the clubs – and players – financial surety for the next year and a half.
In the short term it is the final piece in the puzzle for the A-League to resume just 26 days until the first game. The clubs resumed training this week for the first time since March, under strict medical protocols, with the first game of the planned resumption set down for July 16.
Foxtel declined to comment. FFA has been approached for comment.
So no more Fox. I wonder if we'll actually survive without that money... And now that the FFA can't pay each clubs enough to cover the salary cap, I wonder if this means the end of the salary cap entirely? That could be a good thing for some. It does mean that a huge amount of mediocre A league players will be getting either much smaller wages or not getting deals at all.
I'm happy for the A league to die and start afresh without FFA because at the moment it can't get much worse, they are killing the sport
Apparently deal struck for this and next season but we play in winter. Goodbye Aleague
Killing ?.. Gallop killed it just like every other sporting organisation he has overseen. Everything he has been involved in has turned to shit and only ever kept his positions through personal relationships not his professional ability. His stubbornness and nothing to see here operational style has been IMO the major reason as a product the A League is not worth a fifth of what it once was.
Throw in a FFA run protection racket for numptie officialdom week after week it is little wonder the A League has burnt through many supporters over the years.
Couldn't defend a traffic ticket in his real day job.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...broadcast-deal
Guardian saying $32m for remainder of this season and next. Next season will be december to july. Seems like all football except ffa cup.
Really concerned with the move to play in winter. We can’t forget why we play in summer to begin with.
Depends whether the NRL and AFL seasons go back to their usual start/finish or whether they decide to tweak their seasons timeframes as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Assuming this is a long term thing, I can’t see either changing their general timeframe. With the World Cup next year, this will be what we are stuck with for the next few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
I honestly hope I’m wrong, but I think this is a very poor decision and I hope they return to summer comp ASAP.