My old teammates called me worse come on guys bring a bit more heat my way I miss itQuote:
Originally Posted by prawnhead
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My old teammates called me worse come on guys bring a bit more heat my way I miss itQuote:
Originally Posted by prawnhead
You're about as good as your failed goal keeping glove brand (I seen the Facebook market place adds).Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonKonjarski
They are selling quite quickly and thanks for bringing awareness to my brandQuote:
Originally Posted by MisplacedPasses
I’m going to be bringing out a range for next season where I’m going to donate $5 per pair sold towards a charity that deals with mens mental health would be good for all clubs to jump on board and get there keepers to buy some good priced quality gloves
But I’m sure you can come up with something better then that insult think harder next time
Did azzurri play westlakes yesterday?
Westlakes wouldn’t play due to lack of numbers
A gripe of mine on this foz is the barrage that some foz members cop.
I’m talking about the members whose identity or at least official capacity at a club is known.
Lofty, Jardel, ForeverRed, Jason to name a few.
These types of members are usually great value for a place like the foz. They offer insight into the runnings of their club and competition and experiences. Not saying they are perfect or their comments can’t be argued or refuted, sometimes the comments can be heavily biased. But I think they cop a fair bit unnecessarily. Usually from anonymous accounts with the sole intention of trolling or taking personal shots.
Last week we saw a number of new members with no previous posts join to drive their agenda against Suns. (Both sides have now had their say and Newcastle football can deal with it).
We’ve just seen a few people take some shots at ‘Jason’.
We’ve also seen Lofty respond to a few comments in a rather professional manner stating the clubs position and interpretation. Sure you’re entitled to disagree with the premise of the post. But at least acknowledge it with respect.
We’ve just seen Jardel take time to answer numerous questions about Cardiff and always answers those questions directed his way.
There’s many other foz members with committee roles or affiliations with clubs that do similarly.
By all means, this foz is designed to have a variety of ideas and opinions on various things, and opinions will definitely differ and clash from time to time. But respect goes a long way. The foz had issues in the past with defaming posts. If you’re targeting an individual or a club with your posts, I’d be double checking prior to posting that you would be happy to post the same thing on Facebook/or even here if your real name and identity were attached. Anonymity on the foz is a responsibility not a right.
Well said Brem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Do semi finals grounds for all grades still go off first grade ladder results?
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Kicktheball
Great post mate. It’s no secret who I am. I don’t try and hide that and all my views are pretty open. I’ll never try and bring a club or individual down (except maybe now with a few bad truths). I’ve been involved in a committee role at my club since I was 19 when it was at the brink of folding. I know what it takes to get a club to the level that it is now and change the perception that it had over 20 years ago.
The last week has been embarrassing from a number of individuals who have created accounts just to try and slander my club. We were getting kicked left, right and centre until I spilled the facts.
And then, a number of anonymous individuals with the combined IQ of Warners Bays points tally still try and put the boot in. Throw around outlandish comments and seriously making up rules that suit their agenda.
I stopped replying as I felt dumber after reading each comment. And I apologise for the rubbish people have had to read with this ordeal and it taking up so much space in the forum when it’s a topic that doesn’t need to be spoken about in one of the best seasons in reason memory. But let just say, it’s not the end of it.
We as a club have been through the rules from top to bottom and we know where we stand. Our ressies team won’t even be making semi finals and Warners Bay already securing the premiership. But the integrity of the competition and the responsibility of the federation is just as important to me.
I’m certainly not going to sit down to a bunch of clowns that hide behind a screen name on here, make up some nonsense rules and refuse to put them in here for everyone to see.
Newcastle Suns are an open book, we have offered everyone to take a look at all the evidence of both sagas involving Warners Bay.
I’m my eyes, Warners Bay are the only ones letting themselves down. Had their been anyone involved in and around my club creating accounts and posting things like they have, I’d be all over that quick smart. The fact that after winning the minor premiership on the weekend against Dudley and then to chant “f**k the Suns” says everything you need to know about that club from the top down. Classless.
The arrogance of their president to send the email he sent admitting what they did in the first round against us (started a player in firsts and ressies who in fact scored in both those games) and up hold their decision to claim a forfeit against us in a match that didn’t just have one played doubling up, there were multiple.
They are completely ignoring the fact that players played thirds and then played ressies after in the game they are whinging about.
Sorry again for the long winded post, but people need to clean up their own backyard and stop throwing stones from glasshouses.
The federations have a lot to answer for with the way they have handled this so far also.
Correct up to a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
There are some on here, mainly in other threads, who vouch for a few grubs in the football community.
Ill correct these lies, not vilify, when ever needed.
Bowing to Woke cancel culture at the expense of truth will never happen from me.
The federation committee member that handles this sort've stuff is Macquarie, and the panel is made-up of the Warners Bay president. Not surprised they decided to dock the three points and refused to be held accountable for the decision.
Really well saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
As senior clubs, this might be as good time to reflect on the role of the federation and how they work in utter isolation when it comes to the governance of said clubs and the zone competitions. From the structure, to the rules, to the management. Zone has so much potential, but the bottom is being hollowed-out year after year. Time to reassess.
With the exception of a few standout teams, the quality across most zone leagues this season has dropped IMO. With yet another disrupted year (how many is this now?), I expect more players to stop playing next year and, more than likely, some clubs folding entirely.
Taking that into consideration, how do clubs weigh up promotion/relegation? If you come last in ZPL is it automatic relegation or do they weigh up the options and if another club wants to go down, they allow them to do so instead? Same goes for promotion. I know that a lot of clubs reject the promotion offer, hence why Westlakes got promoted without winning the league or winning the final series.
WHY would the associations allow NNSW football to take over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Villians
NNSW would only put the entrance fee to registered a team up and how many ZL clubs can afford that. NNSW have destroyed the youth development pathway, why destroy community football as well
sorry but i think you will find that this decision would have been made by RH only, as he runs the ZL comps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Villians
He might have made a few calls but generally he does this on his lonesome.
Macquarie do all the teamsheets, but this would have went straight to him.
Couldn’t*Quote:
Originally Posted by mge61
You used the wrong letter at the start of one of your words :)
With your first round fixture were the matches played in the correct order ie 3rds, Ressies, 1sts? Just asking because if a player started reserve grade and then also started the next game would that not be disadvantaging your 1st grade team? At the end of the day we probably all agree that first grade is the priority so I can’t imagine why they would voluntarily want to not start with 11 fresh players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
The second round fixture first grade was the only game played yeah? So really this is all about the order of the matches being played. The lower grades were played at a later date? I think it basically comes down to whether this rule exists that you can’t start any player who started first grade. If it doesn’t exist and the federation have just made it up you might have a point but if it does you probably do deserve to be docked points. Just my opinion though.
Speaking of rules...
A new one emerged for myself as I didn’t know it.
A player was shadowing the ball out for a goal kick when the attacker wrapped his arm around him and basically rugby tackled him down.
When the players questioned the decisions of the ref and touchy the reply was it happened outside of the field so get on with it.this being said anyone taking a throw or corner outside the lines are potentially free for foul play????loop hole???
Seems pretty odd. Particularly given a referee can issue a card when the game is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingofthemiddle
I had an strange one a few weeks back. We were up 1-0 with 2 minutes to go. I scramble to clear a ball that was centre field in the middle of my own half, the ball goes well out of play but not too far (I hit it with my weak foot) and the receive a yellow for time wasting. Up until this point the referee had hardly used his whistle.
You and I are different. You are trying to justify with opinion, whereas I’m substantiating my version with facts and the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
Honestly, if you can read, it’s very very easy to understand.
The rules state that you cannot be in two starting elevens in the one round, UNLESS you do not have enough players to field a team.
You seem to be very selective in complaining about one of the numerous players that doubled up. We didn’t have enough players, so there were players used within the club including third grade that played that day who also played consecutive games.
1. There is nothing in the rules regarding the order of games played within a round. That is one rule you have made up to put a spin on your story.
Furthermore, the fact we didn’t play three grades on that scheduled day is utter bullshit from Warners Bay as the next field had games from morning to afternoon. There was at least four matches played on that pitch. Splendour or not, the games should have just been played!
2. No player is allocated to any grade until finals commence. It doesn’t matter what your opinion is, all players are able to start any grade, those are the rules and that’s facts.
I’m summary, what we did was 100% within the rules. Whether your opinion is that it’s right or wrong is no fault of ours. There are rules in place. We don’t make the rules and we abided by them.
Let me touch on the earlier game against you guys.
1. You had a player who started in both reserve grade and first grade. Just so happened to score in both grades, although that doesn’t change anything.
2. There’s no issue having a player start two grades as I mentioned earlier, when you do not have enough players. However, this was not the case with you guys. You had a player on the bench, fresh that had not played in any other grades.
So in fact, as per the rules and regulations, Warners Bay breached them in this instance.
Again, you can spin this whichever way you want with your OPINION. Just because you think your opinion is right, it doesn’t stand up against facts.
I find it really difficult to continually dumb down the way I post in the hope that you and your mates can get a grasp on the situation but it’s getting beyond a joke.
If you don’t understand any of this, I suggest you get someone else who does to read it out to you.
Firstly I have no affiliation with Wbay but I have been following this thread closely because the ruling has/had potential implications on my team playing finals footy. So forget about them for a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
If you were allowed to start the first grade player in that match then I agree you shouldn’t be punished. You might not like the federation but I’m sure they didn’t just wake up one morning and think they’ll punish the Suns because they feel like it. So I kind of assume on that basis that you have done something wrong and a couple of other posters have made some solid points supporting that view.
Are you able to at least acknowledge that from an opposition point of view it does look like you started an ineligible player in a must win lower grade game? A view that the federation have obviously agreed with. Maybe everyone else is wrong and you will get this rightfully overruled but it’s not a great look. If you had that many players doubling up you probably should have forfeited 3rd grade? It sounds like you basically only had enough players to fill one team anyway?
Apologies, I didn’t realise you weren’t affiliated with WB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
I’m not going to air the federations dirty laundry out here, but the rules are there for all to see.
As I’ve said previously, I can understand from an outsiders point of view of how it may look. But the reality is that there are rules and what happened is clearly within those rules.
No club is ever forced to forfeit. We haven’t forfeited third grade since 2008. We have had countless occasions where multiple players have doubled up in grades. Two seasons ago we played Dudley in three grades with a total of 23 players. We had nothing on the line either other than fulfilling our fixtures. I can understand why teams do forfeit, but that’s not in our nature. We will always do what we can to field three sides. As we did on the weekend.
The fact that these games were played in a mixed order is absolutely no fault of ours. You cannot punish a club for being forced to play fixtures in a reverse order, nor can you punish a team for having too many injuries.
If you are lucky enough as a club to no have to have players doubling up in a season which has been stop start from preseason, early rounds, and to now going through a period where we were playing 6 games in 19 days in order to get our games played before the end of the season. Then that’s a luxury we would bite your hand off for.
We are essentially out of finals now and Warners Bay have already secured top spot. But that doesn’t take away the principle of this whole situation. The fairness and integrity of the competition and the federation all comes into this.
Just because the result may have no impact, does not mean the right outcome should be applied.
There are numerous clubs that have already admitted to having players start in multiple grades. Is this now something that every opposing club is just going to be able to dispute? You cannot pick and chose which clubs have certain rules enforced and not others.
While lofty and his rule book are getting no love.
Where has the the love for bad boy will gone??
Did he leave with the super coach mid season?
Did he get a haircut,new shoes and smarten up or
Did he simply run out of toys to throw out of the cot??
We need answers where has the bad boy gone???
Last seen at fulltime on Chapman Oval calling opposition homophobic slurs and threatening fights in the carpark. If he's gone then good riddance, if not, I look forward to frustrating him to that point again next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingofthemiddle
What teams have mid week games
Azzurri v Cardiff at EvansQuote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
last night
3rds 0--1 we played to beat the upcoming weather tonight.
reggies and 1st will either play tonight, tomorrow or Thursday, weather depending.
cheers
This was cleverQuote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
wanted 2 grades, at short notice we got one played at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
So who is looking most likely to wrap up a finals position in firsts? Looks like Dudley & Suns are already locked in. Wbay also seem all but there so that leaves Mayfield & Azzurri to fight for that 4th spot. They play each other this coming weekend yeah?
I think Mayfield are in trouble. Azzurri has Westlakes, Swansea, Cardiff and Mayfield. Saturday is a huge game will decide 4th spotQuote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
Azzurri v Cardiff at Evans again.
res 2-4
1st 2-3
Well that result makes things interesting in firstsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Jardel any plans to upgrade lights at Evans Park? Not sure how the players saw it but gee whiz the Road End goal mouth was pretty dark where i was sitting on about halfway
Makes Azzurri v Mayfield on Saturday a massive gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
A mayfield win on Saturday would all but end things.
A win for Azzurri will make all remaining fixtures massive.
Exciting to follow..
yeh, as said on another page, we have been putting in for grants left, right and centre for two years now, hopefully we get something end of this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddha
they were going to adjust them but as per usual havent actually gotten around to it yet.
It's hard coming from No2 with great lights to the shitty ones we have, but it is what it is currently.
An exciting weekend coming up in the best football comp in newy. Dudley should deal with Kotara which will put a bit of pressure on Suns but I fully expect them to win at least one of their two remaining matches which will secure the minor premiership.
Westlakes only have a 3 point lead on Swansea who have a superior GD so they’ll be nervously looking over their shoulder. I’m sure they would take a point against Cardiff right now if offered. Swansea meanwhile are at home against Wbay who have already wrapped up a finals spot so who knows what their mindset will be like.
Match of the round is definitely Mayfield vs Azzurri though. I think the winner will take the 4th finals place. Azzurri have played a lot of football lately and maybe it’s starting to catch-up with them. Mayfield are always a tough team team to break down especially at Mayfield Park. I think it will be a tight low scoring game but the home team will come out on top. And if the top 4 is set after this weekend the federation immediately reverses their decision to play 1 leg semis. I wish!
Sorry for one, it's not the Federation, how about we get this right for once, Newcastle, Macquarie and Hunter run our comp, which is Zone, which in turn is overseen by Russel Henry out of Newcastle, the federation have nothing to do with us basically except for taking a fee out of our rego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonal Marking
What about the lowers grades, they are definitely not set in stone for the final four?
Do we just say that's it, comp over you lower grade teams, lets play some finals now?