Don't like it - of course not.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
But I can't argue I've done wrong and always cop it sweet.
Nobody to blame but me.
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Don't like it - of course not.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
But I can't argue I've done wrong and always cop it sweet.
Nobody to blame but me.
Nah.. weed should be legal, fam bludQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Why though does anyone have to pay to stop someone else's addiction??Quote:
Originally Posted by idontwannaplaywithhowey
Why in ****sname should my tax $$ be going to fund someone elses problem
It always someone elses problem to fix bar the idiot who was weak in the first place to dig their own hole and then expect someone else to dig them out without trying to fix it themselves
The cop out that addiction is hard to beat is a load of shit
It is all about will power and discipline
Any one can do it
Being mentally soft between the ears is this issue and giving up because it isn't easy
Where are any of these cats battling 'addiction'?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
While we at it why are my tax dollars helping the blind?
Plenty of Braille out there, and audio books.
oh and don't start me on those damn sooks and their lukeimia.
Harden up 'straya.
Whoa there crying Q&A sympathiser, drugs is a choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
well then what about speeding drivers who crash, should the public system rehab them?Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Cocaine being so expensive is the reason why meth exists. If you legalise cocaine the price drops dramatically and meth will lose most of its appeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Years ago weed was good fun and relatively easy to find. But the law went ballistic on weed and pushed people to cheaper though seriously dangerous alternatives. These days weeds considered hard core and as a consequence its relative price has increased a lot as to the potency of the drug - all because it's competing in a different market now than it was 40 years ago.
Legalise it all and all those problems go away. The current system of fines and so on simply does not work.
Educating people of the dangers and providing them an alternative lifestyle is a much better solution.
How about a policy of shooting Christians to lower the incidences of children being molested ? That makes about as much sense as your idea about shooting drug users.
EDIT: Can you even get pot these days that's not connected to a hydroponic strain ? We used to smoke and be laughing and eating anything we could find for several hours. Kids these days smoke the shit and vege out and run around like paranoid little ****s. Hence why I don't do pot anymore - it's no longer a fun drug.
That sounds overwhelmingly ignorantQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
same country that lets you rape your wife as long as you're married whether she's keen or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
yeah that sounds like a great wagon to hitch your horse up to there Member.
How is it ignorant ??Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
You want to lose weight eat better and exercise
Don't eat junk food and you will lose weight.
That cures fat ****s
You want to stop smoking??
Stop buying them and after a few days of not having them your addition is gone
That cures smoking ****s
You want to cure alcohol addition??
Stop pouring it down your throat
Problem solved
All solutions that are easy to.find
Problem is they all require the person to be mentally strong and disciplined and do it themselves
If they can't why does society put a hand around them and say it ok that they are failing something because they make excuses and give up??
Not acceptable
I all for shooting of those who molest kidsQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
I sign up to that bandwagon
As for your drug comments about pricing
Well yeah people search out drugs based on price.
You drop the price of cocaine then everyone choose that over other stuff
That just simple market forces
I though don't think anyone is going back to weed full on if the government allow a ten foot forest in your back yard for personal use only
People seek out the drugs for the experience they get from them
They want the huge effect at minimal cost
That part you are going to have a hard time ever beating and marijuana don't supply that
I wouldn't know about that policy in Phillipines I was just talking about the drug policy where even though it probably illegal in Phillipines law the President is more or less given his Police force a green light to terrorise the druggos in their society by putting them in body bagsQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
I sure Phillipines has plenty of other society issues as well that they getting wrong
I find it ignorant that you think it is easy for these people, whom are clearly struggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
You've "correctly" identified the fix, which is for people to be mentally strong & disciplined. But that's not easy for some, like you are trying to say. And that is what I find ignorant.
Using your quote:
It sounds as if you haven't fully first-hand experienced people with mental health issues in a rehabilitation sense tbh. Because I sure you will change your opinion on assuming people with mental health issues can easily just get over it and don't need any help & support when you have to deal with a broken down person whom can't even muster up the physical or mental ability to even step foot outside their house that day.Quote:
I sure you will change your opinion on being fine about other people's drug use when you have to deal with a meth head off their dial
So if I have correctly identified that the fix is for the people to sort the issue out themselves by being disciplined and mentally strong then why the sympathy for those failing this??Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Life isnt meant to be easy
Life is not fair
It up to you to deal with the issues you face
No one else
Why sympathy for someone who can't do something that the rest of society just deals with and gets on with ??
The ****ers in this country have opportunity
They not born into a 3rd world hell hole with war and violence gripping the country
They just piss weak
Yeah mental health issues such as depression are just excuses from losers.
Climate change just the greenies pulling the hood over everyone trying to ruin the world.
Vaccinations give people autism.
Government mind controls us through fluoride in the water.
What else we got.. Cancer could be cured if big pharma wasn't milking it for all its worth, governments in on it.
9/11, moon landings..
Hang on a bit Member you all wanted us to help Mark Jones fix his addiction to losing.
Hypocrite.
We all have an addiction to losingQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Newcastle WhoLose don't forget
Not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I gave up.
You called me plastic for doing so.
Hypocrite.
checkmate. Plague has the mental strengthQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
How often in work and home life do you identify fixes to issues but can't actually implement said fixes? I'd estimate this happens multiple times a day in everyones life. The fix to my "lack" of money is to win the lotto, but that's not achievable as easily as I would like to.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I don't wish mental health issues on any person and their supportive friends/family but part of me hopes you have to genuinely deal with this first hand (by first hand I mean either you with the issue or someone close to you that you need to be in and around their lives to help them get thru it) solely so you can have a less ignorant view on it.
Hold up hold up.
Member.
Don't you believe in God?
Legit question: can an individuals mental strength overpower Gods will?
Cause if God decides yo a junkie aren't you trapped?
Only in the Rugby League thread would the topic of 'raping one's wife' in the Philippines be brought up.
:popcorn:
I have agreed with everything you have said in your posts PV4 bar one. I truly hope that no one close to the Member suffers from a mental illness as they wont get the support and acceptance they need to work through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
And Dunster, I hear if you head out to Dudley they can hook you up with some non Hydro action (it's not my scene but I know enough 'weak' people to have some knowledge on the subject).
Some legit tangents on this forum hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
As for your lack of money situation the winning lotto is a way of addressing itQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
But it the million to one chance that will occur
Here are some practical ways that you can address this right now
Change employment to better paying gig
Get another second job
Go through your expenses in life and sacrifice a few to free up some funds
Etc
All of them are easily achievable
They all require you to do something about it though
Just like curing an addiction or dealing with a problem it requires YOU to take responsibility and ownership and deal with it
Winning the lottery to achieve sorting ones money issues out is about as reliable a strategy as the thinking of those who refuse to show the discipline and mental effort required to deal with their issues and then throw their hands up and refuse to accept it can be done
Jesus died on the cross for my sin's etcQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
So being he done that a while ago I pretty certain God is giving us the choice to sin
Sinners go to hell
Non Sinners go to heaven etc
Ok so what the hell are y'all doing at Church on a Sunday then?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Footy tips?
Aren't you all asking for guidance and help with your lives from someone?
Cause that 'kind' of sounds like people wanna do with the junkies yeah?
Man this religion stuff trips so many of you up.
I'm all for you practicing it, but man when you all are like "yo my God helps me out when I'm down but go get ****ed if you want me to help your non believing ass out".
It kind of makes your argument look a tad silly.
and let's be clear, when I'm referencing 'God' here I'm referring to a non-Griff deity, which some of you believe in.
Because we all know there is only one true Almighty.
So me Andrew Johns and Mitch Nicolls are going to hell?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Dang.
Take Stu Musiliak's recent article in the papers:Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
It's almost as if things fell apart when he didn't have the support network (ie changing drugs without doctors consultation). It also sounds like he had to take himself down a pretty hectic, medical-based path to cure his mental health issues, that took lots of time, effort, probably money, and most importantly support. But nah, Stu should have just sipped a cup of concrete a day, hardened the fxxx up on his own accord, and saved da memba's precious tax dollars, hey.Quote:
At 26 and training on his own with no contract on the horizon, he increased his medication without consulting his doctor. He then signed with the Mariners under his former Olyroos coach Graham Arnold, but within weeks he was forced to walk away from the game he loved.
“When I signed with them I made the mistake of dropping my medication, halving it to where it was before I put it up a few months before.
“Then I spiralled and went to s---.
“I found out that doing what I did with my medication could have that effect, and I never really recovered from that. That medication had been working for me really well for four or five years. It stopped working for me, and then I had to go into hospital to come off that medication and go on to new medication, and that really took ’til now to get on top of that.
“I was in hospital numerous times because of my depression, and had lots of bouts of that shock therapy, ECT [electroconvulsive therapy]. I’ve lost count of how many times I had that. It’s been a real tough road, and without my family I don’t know that I would have got through it.
“I had a fair few bouts of the shock therapy in Newcastle. I tried new meds and it wasn’t working. I went down to Sydney and had some bouts of shock therapy in Sydney.
“It was getting me by, but it wasn’t actually working well enough to get me back to full health.
Memba - if you are solely on the windup in this thread, well played because you have well and truly wound me up. If these are your genuine views, I think on this topic you are an ignorant sub-human and next time I see you I'm giving you a good old slap in the face. Please confirm option A or B so I can prepare myself appropriately.
It's a pretty clever bit of marketing as well - because unless their clients started smoking 40 years or more ago it's unlikely they'd know if it was the real deal or not. Magic Beans, or Emperors coat sort of stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by idontwannaplaywithhowey
I'll stick with the espressos.
I best bring a helmet thenQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
:rof:
But your example of Musialik shows that he made the decisions that dug the hole much much deeper
It was him who chose to give up on his medication
That is still his choice
The consequences that occurred are still down to his decision making
I also backing in the next 10 years he found himself in this hole he also made other decisions that kept him in it and made things worse
If he had a hectic journey to dig himself out of the hole he found his life in then exactly how is anyone else responsible for that other than him??
Life is full of choices
You have to assess it all and make a decision
Make the wrong ones
Pay the consequences
Guidance??Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
A junkie asking for help getting off drugs still requires him to take the action necessary regardless of what wonderful consultants offer
Same as anyone praying to God looking for answers
Still have to take the necessary steps
Just so we clear I couldn't give two ****s about people asking for help and advice
I though believe in the taking responsibility for your own choices and not making excuses for it
"I am the light of the world,
He who followeth me shall not WANK in darkness
But have the light of LIFE"
HAHAHAHAHAHA...
If god is so great why all the suffering in the world? What did all little kids do so wrong that the catholic priests made them fiddle with them? Why did the church deem it necessary to help cover their own arses?
Ok can I just wander off for a second before we get into 'this'.
I don't believe in God, but absolutely respect anyone's right if they do. I'll ask legit questions of the Member about this stuff because I'm genuinely fascinated.
But can we please please please not get into too much mockingbof either religion itself, or the people who practice it.
Let's try and keep it about the bigger issue.
Having said that.
So why are people going to Church? I find it puzzling that on one hand they believe there is someone/something there to 'guide'/'help' them, but then you tell me all the answers are internal and it's all on the individual.
Same goes for bible quotes ect.
Are religious texts there for any other reason or do they also tell you that it's all back on the individual?
How de **** did this turn into the politics thread??
Their clients did. They are all of a more seasoned age than my good self.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
And how does grace come into all this?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
http://www.allaboutgod.com/definitio...-grace-faq.htm
Are all people suffering mental health issues, sinning thru drug use etc, justified freely by "god's" grace thru the redemption that came by "Jesus"?Quote:
This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus