2021 Premier Club SAP

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Originally Posted by Unhappygreek

It’s very upsetting at JDL level like you mentioned as it’s meant to be development for these kids no points

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Totally agree,i know it sounds shit at the moment but there are plenty of great people involved in this program and want to do it the right way.Hope your next experience with it is much better than this one.My son changed clubs during his 4 year stint because of the environment he was in.We had no idea where to go but filled out expressions of interest and luckily found a place that has made him a better player and person.Best of luck to you and your son hope you find a good landing spot and thrive.

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Originally Posted by Unhappygreek

Does anyone know why they were sacked from their last club ?

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Lets just say the toxic powers have had the last say. Been going on for a while.

My brothers boy also has lost his spot in this same club but they have already moved on and I am sure will be happier in the long run.
these guys really have so little to offer the new club who "wants" them so badly that they have to bring players with them from wherever they crawled over from to try and make themselves justifiable! how long will they last at their new club. 1 season tops!! haha good luck guys:)

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Originally Posted by cobra23

Geez , I hope Olympic finish top of the table if they want to upset and cut kids , especially taken kids from magic who are arch enemies…
Oh wait stupid me there is no points ..🤦

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Big chance that they will be going hard now for the best 12s to get a good start for the 13s the next year.

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Originally Posted by Unhappygreek

Thanks for your support 🙏 my son is pretty upset we have started looking around but it’s tough with covid not being able to trial ,the worst thing is we were all told by the club weeks ago that all players were being kept for next season.
Rumour has it the TD and this new coach are result driven !
Does anyone know why they were sacked from their last club ?

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Completely inaccurate.

I’ve got nothing but respect for the coach leaving Magic. He’s been excellent in his demeanour and attitude towards kids from both teams.

I’ve never met the TD, but parents I know who had him as a TD at Newcastle SAP have only spoken positively about him. Not a big fan of confrontation apparently but excellent with the kids.

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Originally Posted by Aegon

Completely inaccurate.

I’ve got nothing but respect for the coach leaving Magic. He’s been excellent in his demeanour and attitude towards kids from both teams.

I’ve never met the TD, but parents I know who had him as a TD at Newcastle SAP have only spoken positively about him. Not a big fan of confrontation apparently but excellent with the kids.

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Also, it’s worth mentioning that neither the TD or the coach were sacked.

Both left voluntarily.

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Originally Posted by cobra23

Geez , I hope Olympic finish top of the table if they want to upset and cut kids , especially taken kids from magic who are arch enemies…
Oh wait stupid me there is no points ..🤦

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Are Olympic the only club who release kids?

My son is going into under 12’s next year with only 5 other kids he started under 9’s at the club with.

So lets not pretend this is not widespread.

They didn’t leave voluntarily who you fooling !
But you sound very close to these two covering up for them.The TD is there as no one else would have him and because his son is there ,when he gets cut from seniors which would be his 4 th club in 4 years then the TD will be gone.

I think your full of shit Aegon
I don’t give two flying f@cks on how good of a bloke this coach is at magic ..
But I’m talking about the 6 kids getting cut from a club who they are arch enemies with for what 1 season of no points ..
So you saying they are stacking there team for the 13s will back fire as half those kids will play 13s with the jets

Agree with you cobra23 Definitely not a good bloke if taking 6 kids from his club to cut 6 kids from olympic my nephew being one that got cut he has been at the club since 5 years old 😡
It’s pathetic !

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Originally Posted by Aegon

Also, it’s worth mentioning that neither the TD or the coach were sacked.

Both left voluntarily.

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Absolute BS. There was bad blood within JDL ranks. Karma for mine.

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Originally Posted by Aegon

Completely inaccurate.

I’ve got nothing but respect for the coach leaving Magic. He’s been excellent in his demeanour and attitude towards kids from both teams.

I’ve never met the TD, but parents I know who had him as a TD at Newcastle SAP have only spoken positively about him. Not a big fan of confrontation apparently but excellent with the kids.

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Stop spreading sh*te. better still go there, sounds like you have a soft spot for these grubs.

Hypothetically, if this coaching appointment fell through and he went elsewhere or whatever and your kids/nephews/not your sons were offered their spots back would you stay?

Well the club told everyone weeks ago before this coach and TD were even announced that all players were being kept.So yes would of stayed as we didnÂ’t know anything different.

Sigh…… Go on the attack rather than acknowledge what has gone wrong.

I’m judging one based on interactions over 3 years & the other based on information received from friends.

My son is at Jaffa’s and he has friends at both clubs involved.

Throwing stones at me is not going to change anything, but feel free to continue if it makes yourselves feel better.

How do i get that guy eating popcorn image! This is good

I like best how the ppl who are all
magic on earlier pages now have nephews & girlfriends & uncles at hamilton who been given the boot. My brother’s kids babysitta Been there since b4 they was born 2 !!

Big 😆

Keep goin guys. It lockdown and this good a 😂

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Originally Posted by YewYew

How do i get that guy eating popcorn image! This is good

I like best how the ppl who are all
magic on earlier pages now have nephews & girlfriends & uncles at hamilton who been given the boot. My brother’s kids babysitta Been there since b4 they was born 2 !!

Big ��

Keep goin guys. It lockdown and this good a ��

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As like Aegon I've never met the TD but from speaking to other parents who have had him couldn't speak more highly of him

In regards to him bring results driven over developing players i have to think this might be false in the fact he was a coach at the heat who we all know aren't results driven and a TD at Newcastle sap who again we're not a results driven program.

Both of you sound like mates of the TD and coach. The whole point is that kids have been cut that were told weeks ago they were being retained.
“ Rumour has it New TD had no balls to contact kids, got this years JDL coordinate to do his dirty work”

Never said what he did was right but apparently if anyone is to talk positively about him is instantly his mate and not because the things said are true.

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Originally Posted by JustHearThings

Never said what he did was right but apparently if anyone is to talk positively about him is instantly his mate and not because the things said are true.

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Try not to let everyone know that we have a lockdown breaching get together this weekend to plot out even further undermining of the Magic JDL system.

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Yeah I forgot about that.

If players are willing to follow him to another club maybe that speaks volumes about him? But then again I'm his best mate so can't be taken seriously.

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Originally Posted by Unhappygreek

Well the club told everyone weeks ago before this coach and TD were even announced that all players were being kept.So yes would of stayed as we didnÂ’t know anything different.

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My question was, if the TD appointment fell through, and stayed at magic (from what I’ve read) and Olympic said hey mr unhappy Greek little Johnny has his spot back, sorry about all that, he can be a mighty Olympic warrior again and progress through to NPL youth team if Johnny is happy to.
Would you stay?

Regardless, my opinion this shit should not be happening in a SAP space they are kids for **** sake , the poor buggers are getting dragged from pillar to post because the parents make the rules in this program . it should be about fun and development for that club and now half those kids will have to find new friends etc. as a 11 year old that's daunting especially when they have probably been at the club since 5 year old.

anyway back to the senior threads for me

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Originally Posted by Aegon

Completely inaccurate.

I’ve got nothing but respect for the coach leaving Magic. He’s been excellent in his demeanour and attitude towards kids from both teams.

I’ve never met the TD, but parents I know who had him as a TD at Newcastle SAP have only spoken positively about him. Not a big fan of confrontation apparently but excellent with the kids.

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I love how this guy thinks he’s so informed about everything that goes on at other clubs when actually he has no idea.
Reading some of your comments and laughing to myself I had to reply to the thread. There’s a thing at most clubs you might have heard of and it’s called a committee, they are the ones that released the pair you guys are speaking of and also a parent and his child. How do I know this you might ask? I know a few committee members and people that were at the meeting.
Let’s just say you know when you are in a job and doing a crap job and your employer asks you to leave or they will sack you? Well same principle here. The TD left because he was told he wasn’t required for next season along with a coach and a player/ parent that the club was inundated with complaints about from other parents and also other clubs who put in complaints to NNSW.
Now you can spin it anyway you like but don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Now reading some of these comments it seems to me the reason the coach has stayed on to finish could be for his son or judging by the comments if true he stayed to poach the squad with his mate the TD.
I guess when you are a TD of a club and all the coaches dislike you then of course someone that’s not at the club like Aegon knows the truth. That was a joke by the way.
You seem to be very well informed at several clubs but you aren’t too informed about this one I’ll tell you that much.

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Now im confused :confused:
surly YEW YEW & YAA YAA are affiliated in some way...
feels like im watching me myself & irene , classic split personality :popcorn:

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Originally Posted by Jim

What happened to the 2021 Youth thread? locked?

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I’m guessing Olympic officials started getting worried that the club had been caught out breaching lockdown rules by playing a player with a false exemption letter. This club is an absolute joke. Need to be punished for it and the team associated to it. It’s a form of cheating.

I seem to like YAA YAA (hank) better at the moment , he seems to know something interesting so please kiss and tell .

7 kids have chosen to leave Magic from this years 11's group.

Of those 7 in 2022:
2 are going to Olympic 12's
1 is going to Jaffa's 12's
1 is going to Olympic 11's
1 is "probably" going to Olympic 12's
2 unknown.

Olympic in 2022
1 minimum will play 13's NPL (elsewhere)
1 going to another JDL 12's team
1 player staying in 11's
1-2 players released

For perspective
Jaffa's
1 was released
1 was offered to stay another year in 11's but has left to join Magic 12's in 2022
1 chose to leave
1 will play 13's NPL (elsewhere)

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6 have been asked to retrial


Players being released, leaving of their own accord, asked to retrial, quitting football, etc will happen at every club, every year.

The only thing that concerns me in any way is clubs or players confirming retention and undertaking a late u-turn. If this happens it makes it difficult to find a new club/player and results in bad feelings for everyone involved.

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Originally Posted by Aegon

7 kids have chosen to leave Magic from this years 11's group.

Of those 7 in 2022:
2 are going to Olympic 12's
1 is going to Jaffa's 12's
1 is going to Olympic 11's
1 is "probably" going to Olympic 12's
2 unknown.

Olympic in 2022
1 minimum will play 13's NPL (elsewhere)
1 going to another JDL 12's team
1 player staying in 11's
1-2 players released

For perspective
Jaffa's
1 was released
1 was offered to stay another year in 11's but has left to join Magic 12's in 2022
1 chose to leave
1 will play 13's NPL (elsewhere)

Edgeworth
6 have been asked to retrial


Players being released, leaving of their own accord, asked to retrial, quitting football, etc will happen at every club, every year.

The only thing that concerns me in any way is clubs or players confirming retention and undertaking a late u-turn. If this happens it makes it difficult to find a new club/player and results in bad feelings for everyone involved.

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Oh look out I think someone’s cage has been rattled. Is this some kind of flex now?

It’s concerning that I answered your false claims in regards to the coaches and TDs and your reply was what every kid over there is up to. Why anyone would want to know so much about what is going on at every club in under 11s is kind creepy if you ask me. If this was for NPL or EPL ok but under 11s? Take a look in the mirror.

But thanks for the SAP update Karen.

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Originally Posted by cobra23

I seem to like YAA YAA (hank) better at the moment , he seems to know something interesting so please kiss and tell .

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Haha thanks Cobra Kia, I just don’t like when people post rumours and lies. And old mate Karen here is starting to get annoying, no one gives a shit about what every individual is doing in under10s or 11s, concentrate on your own club/team and don’t worry what’s happening at another club. He sounds so obsessed with what Magic are up to.

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Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa

Oh look out I think someone’s cage has been rattled. Is this some kind of flex now?

It’s concerning that I answered your false claims in regards to the coaches and TDs and your reply was what every kid over there is up to. Why anyone would want to know so much about what is going on at every club in under 11s is kind creepy if you ask me. If this was for NPL or EPL ok but under 11s? Take a look in the mirror.

But thanks for the SAP update Karen.

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I think you’re being unkind to Aegon aka Karen, he has feelings and still trying to flex🤣. Maybe post on the JDL FB page too some
Creepy over the top shit there…

Hate to imagine these people come NPL time 🤦

From what I’m told the TD got sacked/asked to leave so was never staying.

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Originally Posted by Unhappygreek

Heard about this page and thought I’d expose that fraud of a club that is Olympic. Cut my son and his mates to make way for a large group of magic kids just to keep their new TD happy that I heard was sacked from magic and ex magic coach also sacked. What happened to developing kids in this space? Seems like Olympic are more worried about winning in this space rather then developing kids. What a joke!

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That's all Olympic seem to care about is winning not about development.

At least you know there are a whole lot of spots open at Magic now

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Originally Posted by Unhappygreek

Thanks for your support 🙏 my son is pretty upset we have started looking around but it’s tough with covid not being able to trial ,the worst thing is we were all told by the club weeks ago that all players were being kept for next season.

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That's pretty shit, I'd be contacting Magic TD and DoF and speaking to them

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Rumour has it the TD and this new coach are result driven !
Does anyone know why they were sacked from their last club ?

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Apparently one of the Magic JDL coaches didn't like him so he worked with the committee to have him removed

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Originally Posted by sapdad

My sons mate didnt make his clubs 13 NPL squad for next year,so has been filling in expressions of interest.He asked his club about trilaing with other clubs for next year and his current club has prevented him from doing so because they may have a spot come up if other kids dont take up the offer.

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Training during season or going to trails? There is a difference and if the latter it is disappointing for a club to say that, I'd just go, they have already told him they don't want him

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Originally Posted by JustHearThings

Never said what he did was right but apparently if anyone is to talk positively about him is instantly his mate and not because the things said are true.

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I'm wondering why someone would voluntary leave half way through the season. The coach I am guessing is still there till the end of the season and is happy to move with the JDL TD (are we allowed to use names here?) but the TD leaving half way through the season on his own choice? Earlier in this thread it was said that one of the JDL coaches worked with his committee mates to get him kicked out

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Originally Posted by Aegon

7 kids have chosen to leave Magic from this years 11's group.

Of those 7 in 2022:
2 are going to Olympic 12's
1 is going to Jaffa's 12's
1 is going to Olympic 11's
1 is "probably" going to Olympic 12's
2 unknown.

Olympic in 2022
1 minimum will play 13's NPL (elsewhere)
1 going to another JDL 12's team
1 player staying in 11's
1-2 players released

For perspective
Jaffa's
1 was released
1 was offered to stay another year in 11's but has left to join Magic 12's in 2022
1 chose to leave
1 will play 13's NPL (elsewhere)

Edgeworth
6 have been asked to retrial


Players being released, leaving of their own accord, asked to retrial, quitting football, etc will happen at every club, every year.

The only thing that concerns me in any way is clubs or players confirming retention and undertaking a late u-turn. If this happens it makes it difficult to find a new club/player and results in bad feelings for everyone involved.

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I read that in Gladys’ voice

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

I'm wondering why someone would voluntary leave half way through the season. The coach I am guessing is still there till the end of the season and is happy to move with the JDL TD (are we allowed to use names here?) but the TD leaving half way through the season on his own choice? Earlier in this thread it was said that one of the JDL coaches worked with his committee mates to get him kicked out

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The irony is, from my experience, is that the coach that is staying not a coach id want a kid with as he has a vile culture in that team. Some outright grubs.

The coach who is leaving seemed ok and his teamed play a decent brand of football. Not saying that all teams are play fair nice boys but this is an exception. Now that is from watching all SAP teams kids play over several years. I do not know any coach personally.