3rd Sydney team has been a concept since Schwabb wrote his manifesto on a beer napkin when the nsl was dying.
3 Sydney
2 Melbourne
Perf
Adelaide
Newy
brisvegas
1 more regional
It's been the plan for over a decade.
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3rd Sydney team has been a concept since Schwabb wrote his manifesto on a beer napkin when the nsl was dying.
3 Sydney
2 Melbourne
Perf
Adelaide
Newy
brisvegas
1 more regional
It's been the plan for over a decade.
3rd syd would mean another aids, ffs but seems most likely.
Who would be the next best to succeed eg crowd min 8000 ave and finances... tassie, Wollongong, Canberra (cosmos bahahaha), nnsw....
It's a goer.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Instead of 3 derbies a season it becomes 9
Much easier to hock to media when they can have 9 big crowds a year like they did Saturday night
The problem is lots of FC members come from the shire and some from the south coast .....so what you might create is a poorly followed club???.... (I know I said that about the wankerers and see what happened!!..lol)........Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
lol it probs will galvanise the Smurfs. thered be a few noobs hitting up south side. please let there be southern cross, Aussie flag wearing supportsQuote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
Can you imagine the carnage at a WSW vs South's derby game?
Cronulla riots three times a season :popcorn:
be forced to get to that
Darwin ffs.
Gallop has always said the FFA will fish where fish are. Even if those are retarded fish.. anyone who thinks otherwise has rocks in their head. It'll be from a major city.
Not really a loss for the league if Nux go and are replaced by a substainable team from the south coast. Means that all 10 clubs will have a Youth team, and all 10 should have a women's team as well, instead of this current bs where Nux don't have either and are allowed to have more foreigners than any other a league side.
did gold coast die because palmer killed it before it was born or because it just wont work....
half decent owner things could be very different???
Nix are easily one of the best run teams in the league which is the embarrassing thing.
consortium of 24 blokes who only invest a couple of hundred grand a year which is short change for them.
this is an AFC thing though isn't it, wrapped up to look like a financial decision
australia still has no promotion/relegation, no real second division, and don't have the clout like the english do to get around the fact that a side in their competition comes from outside it's own FA , plus straya are still on the nose with a bloc of the gulf states who are pissed about losing perceived gift WC spots
All along it has been down to Wellington belonging to a different confederation (Oceania). It will be embarrassing should they win the A-League as they cannot compete in the ACL.
Nah, GC cant host sporting teams. Sporting events maybe, not teams. Titans and Suns are pretty average, Blaze were similar to GCU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nou Camp
Agreed but Shire is not the place in Sydney to be putting a team. Liverpool/Macarthur/Campbelltown is the fastest growing population base in Australia and it's a ****ing nightmare to get to Moore Park or Parra from there. Team based there is the best bet out of Campbelltown Stadium or eventually the new proposed stadium in Liverpool (which the Wests Tigers NRL are looking at). In addition it is also less than an hour from the Gong to Campbelltown meaning if you market there as well/put on some transport you could pick up a section of support from that region too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilso8948
You got buckleys and none chance of anybody from Wollongong travelling to C/town to support a side. They will not support a side from the Shire either.
Being an old Steelers and Wollongong Wolves supporter before moving here over 20yrs ago the Gong does not identify itself with any of these regions sporting or otherwise.
I have a lot of family associated with the game in the Gong ( W/gong, SC Wolves ) and all are Smurf supporters and unless a team was to be admitted that was totally representative of the Gong/ South Coast and the Gong only you would not get them to swing away from the smurfs to follow some hybrid creation between C/town or the Shire.
Wasn't the FFA holding talks with Kogarah not that long ago? MethinksQuote:
Originally Posted by The Camel
This will be a Wollongong/Sth Sydney team
They surely wouldn't want to get a South Coast team and a Southern Sydney team in at the same time. It would just be diluting the fan base of Sydney even more.
If the Nix on the outer and say a South Coast team does replace them, we are still at 10 teams and not any closer to satisfying the AFC's requirements.
Could be a trade off though, turf NZ and we'll give you another few years for expansion.
To sort that AFC v Oceania shit, common sense always told me Asia and Oceania should merge then split into 2 confederations: West Asia and East Asia. So Middle East, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, old soviet federations in the west, Burma, Mongolia, and east Asia / Oceania in the East. Makes it roughly 28 countries in each side.... Then Nix stay in the AL.... And 2 in each confederation qualify for WC + a play off spot between east and west....
Common sense in AFC and FIFA? Australia, Japan, South Korea and China won't want to lose a possible 2 WC spots to the Middle East. Look at the past 2 WCs, you've had Australia, S.Korea and Japan in both, and Iran and N.Korea making up the other spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
What I said above is what I think would be fair... But I am quite aware it won't happen for obvious reasons you raised....Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
That half spot that ociena have isn't always a playoff against Asia either, so it can't be assumed the 5 spots would stay.
That half spot seems to go to who ever goes to Fifa with the biggest pile of cash.
lower level first rounds qualifications can be split into east and west
then combine for the next rounds
They should put an A-League team in Newcastle.
Probably will never happen but I had some time to kill and came up with this
- 12 Teams - 2 Divisions
- Top 3 in each Division make the finals, next 2 highest place regardless of Division make it 8 teams total, single elimination
- More teams make the finals which means more incentive to play quality football all year and hopefully less pointless games come the final rounds
- Play Division teams 4 times, out of division teams 2 times = 32 Games total
- My hypothetical divisions are based on location and feature a lot derbies
- And rely on no Wellington and introduction of South Coast, Canberra and a second Brisbane team
- Could always split the divisions and have 3 'NSW' teams and 3 out of state teams
- Schedule would include things such as Perth playing both Brisbane teams Away in consecutive weeks to avoid some travel
Newcastle
Central Coast
Sydney FC
WSW
"South Coast"
"Canberra"
Victory
City
Perth
Adelaide
Brisbane
"Brisbane"
I still reckon the South American style apertura clausura two seasons in one would be good.
Ppl really need to get over this no NZ teams in a league - NZ is approx 4 Mil more potential football supporters if NZFA can ever get their act together and work with the FFA to promote the league as a joint venture.
The way I see things, we have to begin expansion soon or risk the competition becoming stale and the general public lose complete interest.
In the next 2-3 seasons we need to launch teams in Brisbane/Ipswich and Wollongong.
In the next 5-7 seasons we should be launching teams in Sth Melbourne/Geelong, Canberra, Christchurch/Dunedin, Sth Sydney.
In the next 10-15 seasons we should then be able to launch teams in North Sydney and Fremantle and possibly FNQ and Tasmania.
Voila 20 teams, derbies all over the place and regional centres serviced and not left out.
After the 10 year mark, you let the second tier (NPL) clubs work towards being able to qualify for a-league status and then introduce promotion & relegation maybe only one or two teams for at least ten years after that.
This is of course is assuming that the tv deals increase and clubs can stabilise themselves.
Some of these suggestions from you mob are pretty stupid.
1. Cut the league to 4 teams, 2 in Sydney 2 in Melbourne.
2. Play derbies every week.
3 ???????
4. Profit.
Sydney FC vs Victory is one of the top 3, with Sydney derby and Melbourne derby, as the biggest money spinner they have. Splitting the comp and potentially losing that game for the season if one of the teams under performs would be worst case scenario for FFA and those clubs. I doubt you would find a single supporter of something like that in the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by The Postman
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Originally Posted by plague
gallop gets in another kick...http://www.theguardian.com/football/...on-to-a-league
alsoQuote:
Gallop said the New Zealand franchise had failed to perform well enough “on any metric” to guarantee their future...“We’re ambitious for the growth of the A-League. You can’t expect to just squat on a licence in our competition”...Gallop named crowds, TV ratings and membership as the crucial metrics, while acknowledging their on-field contribution was irrelevant to the decision.
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Gallop admitted FFA were researching areas that could support a new club, including “looking carefully” at another potential team in Sydney.
another team in Sydney will stuff up SydFC's metrics
Personally I think it's a good move. Potential to tap into a large market. More derbys which creates added interest in the game and + in membership. If based in Sydney will add to travelling away fans which means more $ through the gates of Jets home matches. I really don't get why everyone gets so strung up on having another Sydney team.
Another Sydney team, Is it really going to find new followers to come the game or just shift sand from the two existing clubs ?.
I think the sand will be shifted. For me, Woollongong is the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Problem is the joint is no bigger than Gypo land and even when they were winning no **** turned up there. Not enough of a support base for the Gong on it's ownQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
We need another 2 teams cause I need more games to watch and Fox will pay more $.
Keep nix cause thats good adverts for football in NZ. Add the Shire quick then pick some hovel place for 12th team. Any place/region that can keep a core 8k crowd turning up
Did someone mention Canberra? :gent:Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk