Guitars and Instruments (no stairway)

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Just got the Jag back from having the Fender Vintage 65 pickups installed along with rewiring the guitar with CTS pots and jacks.

The neck pickup has gone from being unusable to a really sweet warm sound. Very much like a tele. The bridge is a huge departure fro the Seymour Duncan Quaterpounder I had in it. Will take a while to get used to, but with the volume rolled of it has some very nice cleans. While very much treble oriented, it isn't like an ice pick and is pretty cool, although with the bright switch on its all a bit too much.

Pretty happy though and am now contemplating some Custom Shop 69 pickups for the strat.

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Where did you get the work done ? Was it at Warners Bay ?

Yep, Warners Bay.

He had a bit of time so he did it while I was there and I didn't have to leave the guitar which was awesome.

I played a Gibson SG today. They look like they would scare small children but play ability wise have to admit I was impressed.
On spec they look similar to a Les Paul but feel and sound completely different.

given the music I like I should own one but just can't get past the look of them.

No Stairway.

From the Beeb:

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Guitarist Jimmy Page and singer Robert Plant are expected to give evidence at the civil case in Los Angeles.

They are accused of lifting the song's opening notes from Taurus, a 1967 track by the band Spirit.

Page, 72, and Plant, 67, are being sued by a trust acting for a founding member of Spirit who died in 1997.

The case began with the jury being played various performances of both songs, including part of Led Zeppelin's recording of Stairway to Heaven.

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And here's the original song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8AVbwB_6E

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

I played a Gibson SG today. They look like they would scare small children but play ability wise have to admit I was impressed.
On spec they look similar to a Les Paul but feel and sound completely different.

given the music I like I should own one but just can't get past the look of them.

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What music are you looking to play? Plenty of other guitars out there if you aren't into the look.

The sound difference to a Les Paul is down to a few factors.

- No Maple Cap
- Significantly lighter, there is a lot less Mahogany in the body.
- Depending on the model SG, the pickups can be very different.

What amp would you be playing it into?

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Originally Posted by sammydog

What music are you looking to play? Plenty of other guitars out there if you aren't into the look.

The sound difference to a Les Paul is down to a few factors.

- No Maple Cap
- Significantly lighter, there is a lot less Mahogany in the body.
- Depending on the model SG, the pickups can be very different.

What amp would you be playing it into?

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I butcher rather than play Stones, Kinks, Who, AC/DC, Van halen... and so on - hence, wouldn't mind something with Humbuckers or similar.
I use a Blues Cube Artist Amp which is an 80w solid state combo.
Effects wise I use a MXR Phaser and a Boss Super Overdrive.

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Originally Posted by Couscous

No Stairway.

From the Beeb:



And here's the original song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8AVbwB_6E

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Holy shit...... They is in some serious trouble. Then again there is only so many ways to pick an Am G#aug

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

I butcher rather than play Stones, Kinks, Who, AC/DC, Van halen... and so on - hence, wouldn't mind something with Humbuckers or similar.
I use a Blues Cube Artist Amp which is an 80w solid state combo.
Effects wise I use a MXR Phaser and a Boss Super Overdrive.

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If you don't want to drop the full $$$ on a gibson, have a look at Tokai. Japanese made knockoffs that are pretty close to Gibson in feel, sound and quality. They are about half to a third of the price and well worth a look if you don't care about the name on the headstock. Id get one over an epiphone.

I prefer humbuckers, but don't discount something with P-90's in it. Most of the time I don't get along with single coils.

Anyone out there want to part with (or knows someone selling) a mid sized combo? Looking for something along the lines of a Marshall JTM60 (2x12 or 3x10) or Fender Hotrod Deville (4x10).

Current set up is overkill and I need to downsize.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Anyone out there want to part with (or knows someone selling) a mid sized combo? Looking for something along the lines of a Marshall JTM60 (2x12 or 3x10) or Fender Hotrod Deville (4x10).

Current set up is overkill and I need to downsize.

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Have you heard Rivera Combos ? http://www.jacksmusic.com.au/showroo...112-black.html

They are a lot like the amps fender used to make before they sold out in the post Leo years.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster;1***52

Have you heard Rivera Combos ? http://www.jacksmusic.com.au/showroo...112-black.html

They are a lot like the amps fender used to make before they sold out in the post Leo years.

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I love Rivera stuff, I have their Rockcrusher to tame the volume on my 100W heads. Quality stuff.

Hadn't been looking at their combos though as I'd been looking second hand and hadn't seen anything come up. What does come up seems to really hold its value. Always heaps of Marshall and Fender second hand and the prices reflect that. A JTM60 in good condition seems to be in the $500 ball park, a Rivera would be going $1200 plus.

Haven't ruled out a clone from Ceriatone.

My fall back option is to just get a 2x12 cabinet and then maybe a lower watt head in the future. Although with the Rockcrusher thats not an issue, its more the physical size of the setup I have issues with at the moment.

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Originally Posted by sammydog;1***73

I love Rivera stuff, I have their Rockcrusher to tame the volume on my 100W heads. Quality stuff.

Hadn't been looking at their combos though as I'd been looking second hand and hadn't seen anything come up. What does come up seems to really hold its value. Always heaps of Marshall and Fender second hand and the prices reflect that. A JTM60 in good condition seems to be in the $500 ball park, a Rivera would be going $1200 plus.

Haven't ruled out a clone from Ceriatone.

My fall back option is to just get a 2x12 cabinet and then maybe a lower watt head in the future. Although with the Rockcrusher thats not an issue, its more the physical size of the setup I have issues with at the moment.

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There is an AC30 Custom Classic on gumtree for $850 http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/maryl...ier/1110734496

If I was in the market I'd probably offer them $550 or so given that it's not an original so it's value will fall over time, and it probably will need a retube sooner rather than later, and more importantly it doesn't have the alnico speakers which is a big part of the classic vox sound.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster;1***80

There is an AC30 Custom Classic on gumtree for $850 http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/maryl...ier/1110734496

If I was in the market I'd probably offer them $550 or so given that it's not an original so it's value will fall over time, and it probably will need a retube sooner rather than later, and more importantly it doesn't have the alnico speakers which is a big part of the classic vox sound.

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Ive been looking at that one. For some reason Ive not been able to actually make the jump to buying a Vox, despite a number of guitar players I like using them. The $850 does seem a bit high though.

Every amp I find that I want to buy always ends up being in Castle Hill. Buggered if I am driving that far to test an amp thats probably had a hard life.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster;1***80

There is an AC30 Custom Classic on gumtree for $850 http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/maryl...ier/1110734496

If I was in the market I'd probably offer them $550 or so given that it's not an original so it's value will fall over time, and it probably will need a retube sooner rather than later, and more importantly it doesn't have the alnico speakers which is a big part of the classic vox sound.

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Now you have me wanting that Vox. Bit of research and the big trade off between the CC2 in the add v's the newer C2 is;

- the CC2 is a solid 13 ply birch cabinet v's MDF on the C2
- the CC2 has Walfdale speakers v's the Celestion Greenbacks in the C2
- Tubes are a lot easier to get at in the C2
- Tube rectifier in the CC2 v's Solid State in the C2.

Big selling point for me is the birch construction. I don't want an amp thats going to fall apart at the first sign of beer spillage. Speakers can be changed, and the rectifier issue is a matter of taste.

I think I'll throw an offer on the amp.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Now you have me wanting that Vox. Bit of research and the big trade off between the CC2 in the add v's the newer C2 is;

- the CC2 is a solid 13 ply birch cabinet v's MDF on the C2
- the CC2 has Walfdale speakers v's the Celestion Greenbacks in the C2
- Tubes are a lot easier to get at in the C2
- Tube rectifier in the CC2 v's Solid State in the C2.

Big selling point for me is the birch construction. I don't want an amp thats going to fall apart at the first sign of beer spillage. Speakers can be changed, and the rectifier issue is a matter of taste.

I think I'll throw an offer on the amp.

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The first time I heard "I feel Fine" by the Beatles I wanted an AC30.

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Love the look and the sound of the LP but hated playing them. Until this last week whereby I finally found 3 that were nice to play.

Hence I've joined the DarkSide with this Tokai LP Custom.

The Japanese electronics are ok but some CTS pots and new pickups down the track should make it a lot better.

Bloody hell.. Looks really nice man!!

Tokai make stuff equal to gibson. What pickups does it have in it?

I'm contemplating doing something really silly and buying an ESP KH2. Ever since my high school days I have wanted a guitar with EMG81's in it, now there is one for sale asking me to buy it.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Tokai make stuff equal to gibson. What pickups does it have in it?

I'm contemplating doing something really silly and buying an ESP KH2. Ever since my high school days I have wanted a guitar with EMG81's in it, now there is one for sale asking me to buy it.

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It has the japanese mk4 vintage tokai humbuckers. ok in crunch or overdrive mode but very muddy for clean stuff.
ANy suggestions for pickups?

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Originally Posted by Bon

I had a BC Rich Warlock bass back in the day..
Can confirm that both it and the user played like sh!t..

I was learning the piano when I was about 7, however learning all of those things was boring and far from fun.. (Although, I curse myself now every day that I didn't stick with it and learn it all properly at that age, I would shred now and actually understand whats going on, instead of just getting drunk and being a hack)
So while I think that down the track the kid will thank you for the theory lessons (if they can stick with it), I can see why playing songs and music you enjoy at the time is also a lot easier and enjoyable and perhaps open the doors to learning the technical stuff later on..

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www.scottsbasslessons.com

There's still hope... :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM1VK8xgl38

For anyone that wants to feel vastly inferior about their music abilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0T9TIpIJ8s

Here is an 8 yr old Frano playing guitar with his hero Tommy Emmanuel. Unbelievable that a kid so young can play so well.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

It has the japanese mk4 vintage tokai humbuckers. ok in crunch or overdrive mode but very muddy for clean stuff.
ANy suggestions for pickups?

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In my Les Paul I have Gibson 490 and 498 pickups, my ES 339 as a Classic 57 Set. Both good, but the Les Paul is a lot hotter.

Seymour Duncan Peary gates could be a good option, what sound are you looking for?

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Originally Posted by sammydog

In my Les Paul I have Gibson 490 and 498 pickups, my ES 339 as a Classic 57 Set. Both good, but the Les Paul is a lot hotter.

Seymour Duncan Peary gates could be a good option, what sound are you looking for?

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I want a little more top end on the clean sound - the rest I can get with a pedal or two.

Obviously not expecting the glassy sound of my strats but the Japanese pickups really struggle to separate the notes of any chord when on the neck pick up.

I was thinking about the Seymour Duncan 59's or the Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary.

Will probably buy from the states as well given the prices here for Seymour Duncan's is off the charts. Musoscorner as an example are double the price I can get em shipped from USA to my door. More than likely the importer / distributor is giving everyone a caning on price and the music shops don't have a choice.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

I want a little more top end on the clean sound - the rest I can get with a pedal or two.

Obviously not expecting the glassy sound of my strats but the Japanese pickups really struggle to separate the notes of any chord when on the neck pick up.

I was thinking about the Seymour Duncan 59's or the Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary.

Will probably buy from the states as well given the prices here for Seymour Duncan's is off the charts. Musoscorner as an example are double the price I can get em shipped from USA to my door. More than likely the importer / distributor is giving everyone a caning on price and the music shops don't have a choice.

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Duncan 59's are good. Look up the Pearly Gates as well.

I think the Gibson 57's may fit your bill. Lots of options.

I wouldn't buy Duncan in this country. They keep stuff all in stock, so you wait months (I'm not kidding) for it and pay a premium. On line is the go for sure. I tried getting Seymour Duncan Antiquities for my Strat and Jag and the guitar shop basically said if they don't have them in stock, don't bother. I went with fender Custom Shop stuff.

So, this accidentally came home with me today. Not my usual style of instrument, but I have wanted one of these since the Black Album came out. ESP KH-2.

Guitar came with the original ESP case, which is as nice as my two gibson cases. I do love a good case. COA has been long lost though, shame as I like that sort of stuff.

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This is with my 6 year olds KH Junior.
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Nice guitar. I've seen these for LP Standard type prices on Reverb.com. Or am I thinking of a different version ?

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

Nice guitar. I've seen these for LP Standard type prices on Reverb.com. Or am I thinking of a different version ?

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From what I am finding on the net, they are going second hand in the US for more like 2 - 3 times that I paid. ESP in Japan have verified the guitar and its manufacture year, and the different serial numbers on the headstock and neck plate so I think I just got a bargain

Brand new, LP Standard and above on price.

Very different guitar to my LP Standard, as you would expect. But it is such a nice feeling and playing guitar. Makes a lot of other guitars of a similar style that I have played (mainly Ibanez) feel like toys in your hands.

Its a keeper for sure.

Have you heard of Kurosawagakki in Japan ? http://www.kurosawagakki.com

Really good service and some top notch products on offer.

My brother bought a guitar years ago and it's apparently sat in it's case for all but two days since then. I think I am going to pick it up and try to learn how to play.


Any tips/tutorials/resources for self teaching online?

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Originally Posted by Grimario

My brother bought a guitar years ago and it's apparently sat in it's case for all but two days since then. I think I am going to pick it up and try to learn how to play.Any tips/tutorials/resources for self teaching online?

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Do it. It is very rewarding to be able to make music and probably one of the best things for relaxation I know of.

TO learn to play you need to devote a minimum of 40 mins a day, 7 days a week towards structured practice.
Those who do less usually give up playing within a few months or so.
The most important thing is that you always make your time on the guitar constructive and for that you need a structured lesson plan.

The Beginner course at Justin Guitar is free and very good.

http://www.justinguitar.com/

Beautiful, thank you. Exactly what I was after and my own google searches had mixed results and ad filled horror sites.

I went hunting for a new telecaster and this was the result.

John Page Classic AJ. it's probably not going to hold value like a vintage Tele or a custom shop but it's that good I can't see myself ever selling it anyway.


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I'm not a tele guy, but that is nice. Hows it sound/play?

Must be my turn to buy something? I am eyeing off a second hand mexican tele, but its got EMG81's in it, so its a tele by looks only. Problem is, there is a Clone of a Marshall Plexi Super Lead I am eyeing off. Can probably get one, definitely not both......which way to go?

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

John Page Classic AJ. it's probably not going to hold value like a vintage Tele or a custom shop but it's that good I can't see myself ever selling it anyway.

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I don't buy my guitars thinking about resale. I know my Les Paul Standard is worth a lot more than when i bought it, but the rest of them I couldn't see increasing.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

I'm not a tele guy, but that is nice. Hows it sound/play?

Must be my turn to buy something? I am eyeing off a second hand mexican tele, but its got EMG81's in it, so its a tele by looks only. Problem is, there is a Clone of a Marshall Plexi Super Lead I am eyeing off. Can probably get one, definitely not both......which way to go?

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I played mine a few weeks ago for a few hours before I bought it. Went back a fortnight later -played it for an hour and a half again and pulled the pin on one. Best tele I have ever played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Nb-RbolYU

Only two people on this forum have guitar pics to post - no wonder the clubs heading towards another spoon.:)

I went for US strat w humbucker. can do clean or jump back into Seattle 90's

http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/hss...trat2hjhjg.jpg

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

Only two people on this forum have guitar pics to post - no wonder the clubs heading towards another spoon.:)

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When it all inevitably goes to shit, at least I can play guitar.

I may have bought another that amp in my last post as well.

A Ceriatone hand wired clone of a 50W Plexi with a 1968 circuit. Unbelievable sound with the Les Paul.

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Originally Posted by hawk

I went for US strat w humbucker. can do clean or jump back into Seattle 90's

http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/hss...trat2hjhjg.jpg

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Nice. I think if I was getting strat again it would have to have thew humbucker in the bridge. Ive never been able to get on with the bridge sound in my strat, which is a shame as its an awesome playing guitar.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

Nice. I think if I was getting strat again it would have to have thew humbucker in the bridge. Ive never been able to get on with the bridge sound in my strat, which is a shame as its an awesome playing guitar.

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Hawks chosen well - he could play pretty much anything on that guitar. I rarely if ever even use the bridge single coil on my Strat. However, on my G&l S-500 it has a MFD single coil at the bridge which is high output and passable enough.
My Les Paul Custom though I mostly use the bridge pickup on as it sounds awesome - especially playing Foo Fighters and that sorta thing.