Did you lecture one of the "humanities" subjects at Uni? Is that why you need to count with your fingers?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
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Did you lecture one of the "humanities" subjects at Uni? Is that why you need to count with your fingers?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Smart kids would become player managers and get a slice of the wages of 20 or more players without ever having to kick a ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Yeah you might want to back it up a bit there boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Well, hopefully NNSWF use this opportunity to push the use of the Speers Point facilities for the SAP or better community clubs. Half the SAP teams don’t use it, but with the Jets elsewhere they’ll need to get creative. I think it’s a great opportunity for NNSWF to go to SAP teams and woo them in. Magic, Jaffa’s, Olympic don’t currently want to train there. What can NNSWF do to get them in? Hopefully, they don’t just push more Fast 5ives to try and make it viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
They would be very lucky if it cost them 20k. I know for a fact that NNSW are charging the Jets more in the vicinity of 200k to use Speers Point for academy training and games. Any reason they are getting out?
With no lights at Hunter Sports, all training I suspect will be during school and daylight hours? “Encouraging kids to attend Hunter Sports”? Be like - “can’t attend all sessions? Can’t be part of program”
Encouragement comes in many different forms.
Can someone clarify something for me please and correct any detail I don't fully understand the whole EJ process
The kids play for their clubs until U11
The EJ is available until U13s next year
Kids then need to return to NPL clubs? I ask as Ive heard and seen off the SAP, EJ, and others.. mentioned and trialling at NPL clubs in recent weeks
Is this correct? Why would you both with EJ to only need to return to an NPL club? Even typing that I think surely Iv have it all mixed up.
I think....... With the change in the SAP programs from Association to Club responsibility the emerging jets was being phased out from Under 11's and below.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
With the Metro SAP the emerging jets 10's played against the metro SAP 11's teams and the 11's played the metro SAP 12's. There wasn't any intention to playing emerging jets vs the club SAP teams. The Metro SAP will only be Under 12's next year and will not exist in 2021 as the club SAP transition completes.
Potentially - the Jets academy will play in Sydney NPL next year in their age group which will also phase out the Under 12 jets teams as they will play in their age groups starting at Under 13's.
I have degrees in Mathematics and Economics - My Phd was in Mathematics - I have lectured students from all faculties in humanities subjects. But back on track here Private School kids do better at high school than they do at University. Public School kids do better at University than they did at high school. Studies confirm this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Ranger
The more elite the private school the wider the gap between a students high school and university performance. Students from less financially endowed private schools tend to do a lot better than their elite cousins at University.
The reasoning here is that elite schools encourage students to do what they are good at and isolate / shelter them away from things they are not. Ultimately, these kids lack autonomy and the ability to grind when the odds are against them. The public school kids that manage to make it through to University are not strangers to adversity and often find University a breeze now that they are finally on an even playing field.
How this all relates to sport - watch the Wallabies in action.
This is factually incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
I'm dying...so true. :rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Some interesting points, although the makeup of the Wallabies is somewhat different than in previous years.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
I certainly don't share the dislike of private schools as many educators do, and wonder how and why anyone would be measuring the level of eliteness of a previous school in relation to results at Uni. But I accept that a public school student would have to be bright and able to work independently to get into many of the uni courses. But just as in football, if you don't get into the better programs to begin with you get left behind.
So all these so called elite programs will revert back to clubs from now on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegon
I don't know much about this stuff and just found names on the NNSW
so the following all need to find club spots again?
EJ
Macquarie Whites
Macquarie Blues
NNSW SAP Rangers
NNSW SAP United
many many more
No, not exactly. They have a transition plan in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
2018 Under 9 Premier Club SAP started.
2018 Metro SAP was U/10's, 11's and 12's
2019 Premier Club SAP is Under 9's & 10's
2019 Metro SAP is 11's and 12's
2020 Premier Club SAP is Under 9's, 10's & 11's
2020 Metro SAP is Under 12's
2021 Premier Club SAP is Under 9's - 12's and the Metro (Association) SAP no longer exists.
The other points to this are:
Emerging jets program no longer exists and will begin at Under 12's or 13's NPL depending on whether they play in Sydney or Newcastle NPL.
For girls:
They will still play in Macquarie, Hunter or Macquarie teams and will compete 2 years up.
e.g. Under 9 premier club SAP includes Under 11 teams from the above.
The emerging jets girls start at Under 11's and compete in the Premier Club SAP 1 year up.
e.g. Under 10 premier club SAP includes Under 12 Association girls teams and Under 11 Emerging jets girls teams
I hope this make sense.
Something I failed to mention is that the level of expectation on the elite / private school kids at University is much greater than on the public school kids. So in many respects they carry a burden that the public school kids do not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Ranger
With respect to better programs - once anyone gets into University their first semester results carry far more weight than their ATAR scores when it comes to courses available to them.
I'd hope it's a similar situation with football - but I fear that's probably not the case.
Yes Thank You
Broadmeadow Magic has already trialed against the U12's Macquarie teams to pick the best for their 2020 npl 13's. So much for club junior developmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Retired01
Magic NET 12's trialed against Macquarie? or Magic NPL 13's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Interested to know what the result in this was as I saw Macquarie and Newcastle SAP teams trialing against the combined NET squads at Wallarah and they were excellent games.
You answered your own question as to why they are getting outQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry Dawson
Which part? Is not Craig Deans the TD?Quote:
Originally Posted by JettyJet
U12 Macquarie teams were dominant vs U12 Magic. Look at the U12 Metro SAP ladder and you find the 3 Macquarie teams coming 1st, 2nd and 5th respectively (out of 10 teams).Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegon
U12 Macquarie Select defeated U12 NET Select 6-1
I also wonder how the football program affects the kids at the school who do not play for the Jets Academy. Will the kids playing for other NPL and similar clubs be included in this now basically Academy training?Quote:
Originally Posted by londonboy
In the end, I can't see this as anything but a bad move for the Jets Academy. They're getting less football, and thus less development.
No he is not, he's the TD of the Jets, not the school. He left last year!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
I didn't say he was TD of the school.Quote:
Originally Posted by JettyJet
Don't know what you are all worried about
Very little has changed here since Pascoe was coaching the Jets Yoof team
Kids were going to HSH then in the hope of making it
Pascoe may have stopped his active involvement with the Jets but this is just changing things back to the way things were being done 3/4 years ago
Just them reinventing the same stuff and calling it a different name
If anything this is just showing all that is wrong with Football in the Hunter
The same guys all keep getting a start again and again and again
No wonder NNSW fails spectacularly compared to the rest of Oz
Yes you didQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
"Not really a surprise that Hunter Sports is the school. The TD works there along with every other teacher who also coaches an EJ team."
And less than half of the Coaches are at the Jets!
Sorry Jetty Jet, but grammar isn't your strong point. That says the TD works there. It doesn't say he is the TD there. Are you an Old boy of HSH?Quote:
Originally Posted by JettyJet
The TD DOESN'T work there!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Ranger
He is the TD at the Jets and works for the Jets, he doesn't work for the school. Either way what was said was incorrect.
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/when...alian-football
Looks interesting.
Yes but you claimed I said he was TD of the school, which I never said.Quote:
Originally Posted by JettyJet
TD used to work there though, other coaches still do.
I may have missed it but shame they didn't say when they were broadcasting it or if it is on the SBS streaming service.Quote:
Originally Posted by londonboy
I claimed what you said was incorrect, it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
"The TD works there along with every other teacher who also coaches an EJ team."
That is factually incorrect.
1) "The TD works there"- Incorrect, he doesn't.
2) "along with every other teacher who also coaches an EJ team"- Incorrect
Don't back track now, when I asked you what was incorrect you said, that he wasn't the TD of the school. Which isn't what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by JettyJet
He's got you there JettyJet. You clearly called him out on claiming something he didn't claim. Again your comprehension skills are being questioned. Who does and doesn't work there at any given time is another matter.
Honestly, what he said in whatever context or grammatical slant you apply to it was wrong. It was wrong then, as it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Ranger
The facts remain the same, what was said was incorrect and lacked the knowledge to have an informative comment or opinion.
Whataboutism is pathetic, still in whatever context you apply, the comment was incorrect. I made a grammatical misread, that doesn't make the comment any less incorrect.
"The TD works there along with every other teacher who also coaches an EJ team."- Is 100% false.
Lots of u11 Jets trialing for NPL clubs. Are Jets Youth going to Sydney?
Few kids looking to head south also!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
I have issues of Soccer Action Magazine back to the early 1970's and much of the conversation has not changed since then when it comes to junior football.Quote:
Originally Posted by londonboy
The only thing that has been addressed to some degree is the use of small sided games to improve players performance in tight areas.
Technical skill today is street ahead - at all levels.
Where things have gone backwards is that we used to have certain clubs developing juniors not their senior programs.
Trimmers as an example [Bottom left of picture] was developed by Brighton. He played in a local two division competition which also competed in Cup matches throughout the year against teams in other regions, and ultimately other states as well.
There were no elite teams - you played in one of two divisions [rarely more] and come Cup time a division 2 team in one comp could play a division 1 team in another comp.
The best players were well and truly known as were the best teams. Different clubs played different styles of football, different teams played different types of football.
Skilfull kids were targeted by less skilled ones, skilled kids learned how to deal with it......
The insular nature of the junior game today is killing it. In the past the elitism was only in the 1st division teams - but the 2nd div kids at least got a crack at them in the Cup games.
Today - you have the elite kids all playing against each other in a bubble which is absolutely pointless.
I thought U11s weren't allowed to trail for U13 clubs in NPL sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Usually they are not but they were deemed to be an exception to the rule as Jets Academy teams moving to Sydney next season start at U13. U13 Jets will play U13 NPL in Sydney. The current U11 (next season’s U12) would not have anywhere to play. Sure they could play U12 SAP or NET but they have already played U12 SAP this year. This is why they have been allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
What’s the reasoning behind this? If you’re good enough you should be allowed to play IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese