oppaaaa!!! someone who can actually read and comprehend what is in front of them, gold star for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
@fozphantom go back and read the thread..... take your time :wanker::wanker:
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oppaaaa!!! someone who can actually read and comprehend what is in front of them, gold star for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
@fozphantom go back and read the thread..... take your time :wanker::wanker:
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Originally Posted by #fixsmithpark
Yep. Time already taken when I posted the first time.
boz opens page 1 with NewFM NL1 thread - so read into that what you will.
End of pg 1 ZPL gets a mention and straight up criteria is the issue Then you chime in
with your gf penalty missing mates as an option for nl1. :rof: Wants to walk before he can crawl.
No ground - (#shitPark or Connolly) that makes NL1/NPL criteria (love it or hate it) and no hope of ever filling competitive junior age groups
I'd concentrate on beating Swansea in the first round dude. Cause I can tell you they aren't going to lie down.
Swansea, Mayfield & Dudley your first 3 games. Oh dear. That should sort the shit from the clay straight up.
For the record, I talk to a lot of people in local football and they ain't exactly laughing with you with your antics the last few years.
Geezuz even committee people there at hamilton despise your crap
So keep up dodging the truth bombs mate and keep the green emoticons cumming. Suits you
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No issues here, shed some light pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by fozphantom
Was good to be playing on the day, not sure you could say the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by fozphantom
Just one of the hurdles we will jump over ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fozphantom
easy peazyQuote:
Originally Posted by fozphantom
Hard to believe people aren't onboard with such a family and community freindly club like ours. The committee comment actually got a lol out of meQuote:
Originally Posted by fozphantom
everyone needs to cut the bitching out - next whinge gets a ban
no whinging here, was somewhat rail roaded whilst trying to join in the conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
Thanks!
rofl. The VB ultras certainly add some colour to any division. Could be the next club into Newfm and get rid of the bye.Quote:
Originally Posted by fozphantom
Smith Park for Newcastle football centre of excellence. Come on Nelmes get off your hairbrush and camera and sign it up.
Never going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by finzee
NCC's plan:
- Designate Adamstown No 1, Darling St Oval and Arthur Edden Oval as venues for NPL games
- Utilise National Park No 2 Sportsground as a venue for NPL games. Prioritise highest level of competition/events in all rectangular field sports when allocating use
- Ensure infrastructure at these grounds complies with NPL standards
- Develop a Master Plan to guide development of Arthur Edden Oval as a football centre of excellence and venue for NPL competition games (including possible synthetic surface)
- Progressively upgrade other grounds - playing surfaces, lighting, amenities, drainage/irrigation - in accordance with criteria to be developed (e.g. budget, designated hierarchy, usage levels, condition audits and code standards)
- Include football in the development of additional shared use fields as part of new land provision in the western growth corridor.
Ground usage and allocation of grounds to stakeholders should become clear within a couple of weeks. Expect a few draw adjustments in NPL and NL1 and a few plans that will certainly resemble what it is that you suggest here. All though will not be as clear as it currently is, no Cooks Hill and no New Lambton was not part of NNSWFs grand plan. Ask yourself the question, if cash is being thrown around, is it coincidence that Olympic and Magic have all of a sudden embraced WPL? The clubs with a viable WPL and Youth will lead the way off the park in the eyes of those giving grants......
Of course everyone knows that those two clubs have taken the WPL clubs to get more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
Though it is a shame that clubs won't have home grounds if just Darling Street, Arthur Edden, Adamstown and #2
Meanwhile Toronto have pulled out of the U13s, U14s and U15s which is a blow for the youth. Surely they should have the players with plenty of feeder clubs. Singleton also pulled out of U16s.
You're kidding? Put them out of the NEWFM in all grades. Not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
This is the second time in a few seasons that Toronto have failed to field out teams in all grades.
The whole model is broken there will be more withdrawals once teams in youth start to get hammered week in week out. There is not enough quality youth to go around for that matter probably not enough seniors as well. Northern had a chance to really change it up but did nothing really. Didn’t even move the deck chairs on the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
Can pretty much 100% guarantee that Toronto’s “feeder” clubs have teams in those age groups. But the quality is lacking. What coach/club offical could stand by and send kids that are way below the standard into a Premier Club set up. Most teams at those clubs would be mixed with boys and girls and majority of them kids are just in it for the fun.
Realistically, as this has always been the way, now it just happens even earlier (SAP) - the good kids from the Westlakes area are already playing in town at NPL clubs.
And unless NNSW implement a “play where you live” policy I don’t think Toronto, Morisset or Westlakes will ever get to the point of having quality youth teams.
It’s a joke. Newfm should ditch the junior BS as criteria and have the 10 or 12 best senior clubs outside of NPL. As long as the ground is ok it should be on senior teams. This way the comp wouldn’t be a joke and a 2 horse race each year. When the top teams in ZPL can beat and draw the top Newfm teams each preseason and don’t bother playing the lower ones cause it’s no completion the comps brokenQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
That’s how it was when I was a kid, I had a choice of 4 clubs in my area, it worked then, some quality players from my eraQuote:
Originally Posted by The Postman
Toronto Awaba have drew Cessnock, defeated Apia and lost close games with NPL clubs Valo and lakes, so we are fine in the seniors it’s when you are so far down the youth system, say 11 npl teams and 5 newfm teams ( for argument sake ) that’s 16 x 13 kids already elsewhere at each age group, kid number 200 in the pecking order has no intention of playing in a higher level. And would rather just play for the junior clubs. Toronto tried hard including contacts, meetings and sessions with the Morisett 14s side, only to learn half didn’t want to play at a higher level, some had already signed at other clubs outside the area and some just weren’t good enough for newfm anyway. Toronto midfield this year will consist of three Toronto juniors, but all three went through NPL youth and grade before coming back, but all just still 21 so that’s where the future starts at Toronto at the moment. The 16-21 age bracket ... not u13.... the club turns 100 next year so once they find an aggressive youth coordinator they will be fine.
Bring it back then, the area would be very strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
So where are the youth teams from last year? Why have those kids walked? Cost? Culture? Surely all those Toronto teams didn't finish last in 2019.
NEWFM needs youth grades. The talent pool, is too small and it needs growing. It will take time, but a strong second tier youth league is as important as a strong senior second tier league.
If Toronto (or anyone else for that matter) can't field the teams, open the spot to a ZPL side that can.
Youth teams in NPL only get rid of it in League 1Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
If you do, you will never get promotion and relegation from NPL. The NPL clubs would scream blue murder if the kids they had spent years on upped and left to a newly promoted second tier club because first grade got them demoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
Imagine an Olympic, Magic, Jaffas etc getting demoted from NPL for, say a South Cardiff or Wallsend, and having all four youth teams walk out the door to go to the newly promoted club. They would never agree.
Without youth grades, there will never be promotion and relegation into NPL.
They didn't all finish last and some had some quality players in their side. I understand the U13s last year were all going to come back but the coach said he couldn't commit to another year so some just left to play community. The new coach was turning out to be poor and drove more players away. No idea what happened to the 15s or why they were unable to get a 13s side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
Exactly, you just become a pub side league if you get rid of them and people advocating for it are living in the past. It hurts the NPL youth and keeps more talent down in community sides. NewFM youth players do get selected for NPL the following year because they get the experience at the level NewFM is, others dropping out may go back to NewFM and then go back up because of the quality they can get at NewFM. Getting rid of it is a silly idea but then again NNSWF not wanting to give the NewFM clubs something to push for such as promotion isn't helping the league either.Quote:
NEWFM needs youth grades. The talent pool, is too small and it needs growing. It will take time, but a strong second tier youth league is as important as a strong senior second tier league.
There would be several community youth squads that would dominate NewFM youth teams. Don't get caught up thinking you're the best squad out there because you play in an 'elite' senior team. It simply means your parents are rich enough and you have enough ability to fit into a 2nd tier 15/16 person youth squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Ouch...Quote:
Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast
Not to sure you’re right about this, I haven’t seen to many goods teams running around community clubs, after witnessing a few community grand finals last year it was fairly horrendousQuote:
Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast
There is so much narrow minded drivel floating around these forums. I wonder if anyone here actually Coaches or runs a club. Toronto cutting 3 teams a week before the comp is embarrassing. Last year they were forfeiting 23s, Wallsend pulled teams, Cessnock should have and Belswans the year before couldn't field 14s. Really, look at the greater club at Toronto, and a few others for that matter. They have been in a second tier for way too long and NNSWF don't care. In fact, where is the management from NNSWF around identifying that this club was once again in dire straits. Other clubs will follow and cut teams once the 5 or 6 clubs with strong Youth start to put up cricket scores. Half the NL1 comp is a rabble, the ZPL isn't much better albeit a few top ZPL teams would compete with bottom NL1. FFA Cup last year saw ZPL teams well off the mark against better NL1. All the talk about grounds and facilities will be folly once the ground sharing occurs in Newcastle Council areas which will see all codes sharing. Lake Macquarie reviewing also. Then second tier clubs who have their shit in order will strengthen a very weak NPL. As for the Toronto's, chook raffle and a few beers after the game in ZPL boys!!!! NNSWF have an emergency on its hands. How they react will shape whatever a viable NPL looks like. Ps. Toronto beat APIA 20s, who sent their 18s as a default to honour Darren Stewart, let's call it for what it is.
Dominate? Champ you have cooked a few too many BBQs.
The NNSW emergency statement is right on the markQuote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
Narrow minded ? Well no wonder you joined the conversation, yes it was Apia 20s ( not 18s ) same side heading to Italy to compete in a huge u20 tournament, so albeit u20 still a good result considering Apia are one of the top sides in Nsw npl, so there U20s wouldn’t be Drabble, let’s not forget Toronto is a Chook raffle side according to your “ narrow minded drivel “ yes we struggled to fill the young ages this year, not through lack of trying, maybe it’s because tossbags like you jump at the chance to bag the club and naive parents read this forum and listen to your narrow minded drivel. Toronto Awaba are going great financially and with a playing roster focused on local juniors and players, with coaching staff like Piggo, Jobe Wheelhouse, Abe Wheelhouse, Chris Bowling, Jason Cowburn and Nathan Green, the club is far from a Chook raffle side, so take your narrow minded drivel back to the local bingo game and see if you can focus on one number at a time ....did I mention the coaching staff are all Toronto boys ? What club wouldnt love that.....
having your rant in one, single, long paragraph tends to make you look like an angry man
people stop reading when there's a lack of punctuation
Not sure why you're pointing out "me" or that I play in a youth team. I am talking about NPL clubs and coaches not giving players in community a chance because of that. And even if there is a good side it doesn't mean that they will develop well due to the quality of the competition they face. Sounds like someone is upset they couldn't play state league as a kid. Don't be salty sonQuote:
Originally Posted by Roundball Enthusiast
Couple of blokes at the Blackbutt Hotel tonight talking about New Lambton playing games at Edden Oval this season.
Anyone heard anything of this?
I haven't heard but I did hear it was part of their planning. Makes sense, Jaffas have Senior and Youth and it is free 2 days out of 4. Perfect venue to develop into a ready made Football Centric No 2 but not unless Jaffas share. Jaffas need a viable cashed up partner Might be the sign of things to come? No 2 for Merewether Girls/Cooks Hill joint venture is the big rumour. Makes sense also....all Cookers lack is a true WPL program and Merewether are gypsies connected to a small junior club.
I am sorry. I didn't realise so many Toronto legends had returned. It makes me wonder why all the kids left, (some went to Lakes which must be hard to take), but, I am sure they had good reason. I am also sure the BBQs will be excellent and those legends that you mention will take The Stags forward vs backward. Let's hope so. NL1 and NPL need a vibrant football program in Westlakes.......sometime soon?
Won't be happening. Edden in bad shape so I doubt Jaffas will share with NLQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry Dawson
Old news they were intending on using it for NL1 senior games but nothing happening this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
Joint venture/merge is on the table and has been for some time between both clubs. Some sticking points that they are hopeful of resolving this year. One of main reasons why New Lambton didn’t apply for a licence in NPL when everyone thought the would. Also hearing West’s Group in the mix so name change, colours etc. may also happen which will resolve some of the sticking points they already have Rugby League, Netball and Cricket (ironically cricket club used to be called Lambton/New Lambton or verse vica). Will be majorly cashed up have some high profile executives on the board and be competing in NPL men’s and women’s. Final tip Clayton Zane Head Coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
NL have been designated 4 games at Edden in 2020. From May. It would have been more but the ground is closed until end April whilst Council fix a bug and Jaffas will play elsewhere until then. I saw the NL President after The Matilda's game. No mergers but their plan is big investment in Edden with Jaffas and Council and Northern and Alder will be their Youth and training venue whilst hosting their other Senior games and WPL in 2020. 2021 full time for Men and WPL and the switch will be flicked on NPL. He said Edden is their original home from when they won 1st Div in 74 and 75. New Lambton is going home........a ground is the only gap this club had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Wrong old mate. Although I also heard Clacka is very close to the club and they have some heavy hitters on their Board so West's make sense. Merger.....? Their President nearly spilt his beer, never ever will NL merge with The Bananas.
Can’t see Jaffa’s being very happy about sharing their ground with NL - not one bit. NNSW must be changing their position on Clubs and grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
The Edden facilities are looking very tired and in need of some upgrade though. Not a lot of noticeable development there in recent times?
Newcastle council have already identified Edden/Wallarah/Blackley as a football centre. At this stage their actual plans aren't known but may include all weather surfaces. Refer to their recent report. Edden is in poor condition because of it being used match day, for training (club and Jobe) and for summer football over the last few years during drought. It needs a damn good rest and rehabilitation, not more use in its current condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
Jaffas need a viable cashed up partner? Given the amount Jaffas are rumoured to spend, your comment seems to fly in the face of the evidence. If cashed up means you have hundreds of kids to help pay first grade wages, experience says that parents soon tire of that unless handled very carefully.
It is well known that New Lambton has set it sights on Edden/Blackley/Wallarah. The word is that they have been badgering Council over it. They need more grounds because they have too many teams and, lets face it, Alder is a pigs ear. Perhaps they should reduce team numbers, focus on improving their current grounds and spend less time trying to obtain the use of the grounds of other clubs. If they really want an NPL quality ground and are in talks with Wests (as some here suggest), maybe Harker is an option? A solution similar to Toronto. If ground space is an issue, send the extra teams/kids to other nearby clubs. I'm sure community clubs or other NEWFM clubs would appreciate more kids.