Amalgamation/association with Cardiff Juniors? Or purely ground utilisation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
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Amalgamation/association with Cardiff Juniors? Or purely ground utilisation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
bit of everything thrown in, long story buts its been going to happen for a long time, just needed all the planets to align, they did and shit has happened quite quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
CJSC's senior teams are coming under the CCFC banner for 2021.
That will give us:
ZPL
ZL3
AA x 4
o35's x 2
CJSC will not field any teams in season 2021.
Good news. Any dealings I had (years ago) with Cardiff Juniors were always very positive and their facilities there now are pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Sometimes it just makes sense for these geographical connections to pool resources and grow.
You mean they will field no senior teams? Or no teams at all (Eg juniors also)
at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Oh wow. Unfortunate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Imagine South Cardiff, Warner’s bay and Garden Suburbs will be taking on those displaced.
Surely notQuote:
Originally Posted by Haircut
The unfortunate consequence of pulling out from last years season due to COVID is that few (if any) of the kids we had before came back to us - only just had enough juniors sign up to enter a single team so not feasible for us to go ahead. With City coming over (which we are very excited about) it made sense for the senior sides to sign up under them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Does this now mean Cardiff junior football are no longer a club
No, we are still a club.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
By my understanding you have no teams, how are you still a clubQuote:
Originally Posted by evolution
Still have a committee, still registered with Macquarie, Northern, FFA etc., still recognised by council and still planning on competing in some way, shape or form in the years to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Kotara copped a touch up from Merewether on the weekend. They had been really strong pre covid. The year off may have depleted that strength
Might have been short on numbers? They gave Kahibah a pretty good run a few weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
Any ideas when the draw will actually be finalised and up online?
Long time reader, first time poster here.
The lack of activity on this forum is underwhelming. The players, coaching staff and spectators deserve better! Get amongst it people, the season is almost upon us!
Predictions:
Dudley
Suns
Cardiff
Azzurri
Swansea
Kotara
Cookers
Mayfield
W Bay
Bero
Dudley
NPL ressies do ZPL. Made up of NPL reserve graders and Dudley veterans. They will be experienced, clinical and too strong for most of the comp. They have lost their crowd favourite and ‘ZPL immortal’ coach, Davo, who is now solely focussing on his O35s career. They have also lost a few of their NPL rejects from the pre-COVID era who are apparently chasing fame and money in newFM or whatever that nothing league is called now. Hopefully the local flogs still remember where the oval is, so we can marvel at their mob-like behaviour after a coupla froths.
Suns
The sun is shining? Bit of a gamble here. The usual faces are back and a few old magicians have joined the ranks. The Suns have taken preseason seriously for the first time in living memory, despite the weather gods trying to break their resilience. I think this unprecedented fitness level will see them get points before the start of the second round. When it all clicks, there is no denying that they are prettiest footballers in the comp. But football is more than being pretty and everyone knows that the Suns are the best in the comp at beating themselves. Lack of depth will be an issue.
Cardiff
The kings of nothing. Full of confidence from winning whatever last year was, South Cardiff ressies will look to go back to back. This year though they will see the real ZPL and as such, get a reality check. There’s not to say there isn’t some quality in this squad, despite their coach’s best effort to stamp out any class or tactics from the players. Playing on a field that will now be conducive for football will be make or break. The film crew will be back but it’s undecided whether they’re with Optus sports or housos.
Azzurri
Homeless in Hexham. A significant delay for the squad getting their tetanus shots has meant that the Hexham azzurri bees have experienced a very disrupted preseason. However, as they showed last year, they have some immense quality in the squad despite losing their journeyman keeper to their rivals. They also showed that for the most part that their cockiness was misplaced. With their ego realigned we will see a better, more grounded azzurri than we did last year. What is yet to be known is whether azzurri fans will don the akubra, as they make Hexham home.
Swansea
Yesterday’s champions. It seems by miracle that Josh Maguire didn’t send the club broke with his wages and match day demands but he has left the club, leaving behind a walking frame and a mobility scooter. They’ll need another miracle if they are to make finals again without their marquee. In what could only be described as an ageing squad, the Swans will be relying on the long throw-in and hope some Belswans rejects cross the bridge to cover over the appearing cracks. Will this be the last we see from some of the champions?
Kotara
The back to back losers are back. After taking a year off to lick their wounds, the tigers are without their most prized possession, the whippet as he is off to seek fame and fortune. Apparently he was in such a hurry to leave that he abandoned his litter of young pups out the front of the clubhouse. Their pre-COVID coach/keeper/journeyman is now at his third ZPL club in as many years. New coach, new squad will mean they are no longer the biggest tiger in the jungle. I can’t see them becoming back to back to back losers.
Cookers
Fire in the hole is cooked. Gaining promotion via another team’s misfortune is never going to win you any fans. This coupled with the fact that their team is actually the Cookers ressies ressies tells me that unfortunately the best chant in the comp will not be heard too often. An obvious strength will be their fitness, fresh off a preseason on the track, Cookers will make teams work for their inevitable victories but that’s where the strengths finish. The best of the relegation battle.
Mayfield
Grubbiest of them all. What a fall from grace these now third rate tigers have had. Once winning minors undefeated but still failing to make the big dance, Mayfield are determined as ever to finally win a grandy with their O35s team. They’ll be very experienced but lacking in every other part of the game. Grubby non-spectacles aplenty in these games.
Warners Bay
Lol.
Bero
Bye bye Bero. If their players, field and fans weren’t so shit I’d actually be sad. The days of Danny Burt and grand finals are long gone. I can’t see them winning many games nor can I see them returning anytime soon and we will see a few records be broken here, at the expense of Bero. Would happily see them replaced by Peter Haynes FC or do a day trip up to Nelson Bay.
"Long time reader, first time poster here." - well there's yr problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornigold
But a fantastic post nonetheless!
agreed, this is the kind of content i am here to see
bring on the season
I’m a flog on the hill at Dudley, make sure you come say hello, we like your type 👊Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornigold
That was a good read. Definitely got me a bit more excited for season!
Dudley knocked off Swansea in the FFA cup tonight. Suns take on Cardiff this weekend also. Good to see how the early season form is looking.
Any scores lofty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
2-1. Dudley missed a penalty. Both teams knocked the ball well. Could of been 5-2 Dudley with Swansea’s keeper making 3 top shelf saves to keep them in it and Dudleys keeper making a 1 on 1 to keep it 2-1. Enjoyable night of football and good to see Dudley back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Any predictions on the % of games this season that will be washed out? Not looking good and it's only March! On another note, went and watch the mighty Thistles in the cup. We played really well and deserved more goals but gee that Swansea keeper is a top class player. Best of luck for the season, come on you Thistles!
Lol :wanker:Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Anyone else going to post their predictions for the season? Would love to see someone else share their thoughts (at your own peril lol)! Players in and out?
Dudley
I hear only good things about their quality across all three grades. Pre-season results are backing this up. Playing on the surface at Lydon will be the highlight on everyone’s calendar. Coping abuse from the crowd will be the lowlight.
Azzurri
They’ve picked up quality players in the positions they’ve always struggled with. New crack striker, big direct stopper and a couples others. They never had a problem scoring goals, they should get more, and perhaps stop some too. Goals galore every game.
Suns
Age shouldn’t diminish their best players’ assets (which is not pace and fitness lol), and they’ve got some upgrades, especially at keeper. Awesome shotstopper. They’ll continue to be a bit like Liverpool; beat the good teams and lose to the bad ones.
Cardiff
Will be competitive, but a full season will take its toll. If your gameplan is based on physicality, playing lots of games doesn’t bode well for durability. Understanding tactics and creating an option B or C when needed could also be their undoing.
Mayfield
You don’t need pace and quickness when the ball spends most of the time in the air. The long game will create headaches for some teams. They also get stuck-in physically themselves. I see the opposite of the Suns; they’ll pick-up points against the top sides and drop them against the bottom rung.
Swansea
Say what you want about the amount they paid Spud, but he really brought a lot to the Swans other than his individual playing quality. The way he directed the young boys around the park was a tribute to the bloke. I think they will miss him much more than what he individually gave them on the field.
Kotara
I’ve yet to see them play and their results have been quite perplexing. Either they’re better than 2019 or worse – I’ve also heard both storylines. I’m airing on the side they’re weaker than 2019, as finding a whole new team that could challenge for finals would be a monumental task.
Cooks Hill
They belong in ZPL, but across the board it lacks the quality to compete at the top of the table across all of the grades. The club does a phenomenal job to put out as many senior teams as it does; maybe they could coax some of their really good AA players to make the jump to Zone?
Beresfield
Some teams will fold-up like a deck chair at Pasadena with the heckling, tight pitch and physicality of the Bero boys. The not so tactically astute ones will drop points here, allowing Bero to limp through the season and avoid the spoon.
Warners Bay
2021 ZPL will be a big upgrade from 2019. I’ve only heard that across the three grades they’ve come back without as much quality. I haven’t seen any pre-season results… either they’ve been continually washed out, or have they been too poor to share? It will be a long year. But wow, that surface at John St. Oval will allow the prettier teams to play some quality football.
2021 ZPL Minor Premiership Predictions
1st. Cardiff
- 1st in 2020
- By all accounts have retained their premiership winning squad.
- Established team which played the best football in 2020.
- Will have confidence and expectation to go and win every game possible.
2nd. Dudley
- 2nd in 2019 (equal 1st)
- FFA cup win over Swansea gives them an edge.
- Always recruit quality and experienced players.
- Home ground quality surface and crowd gives them advantage over other teams.
3rd. Swansea
- 2nd in 2020
- Established 1st grade team with experienced players.
- The loss of Josh McGuire will impact results and playing standards.
- Quality squad depth. Reserve grade was the best team of the 2020 season (1st).
4th. Suns
- 4th in 2020
- Strengthened in key positions
- Historical long winning streaks throughout a season will get them into 4th.
- Will just not have the structure and discipline to beat the top 2-3 teams.
5th. Azzuri
- 3rd in 2020
- Second year and with stronger opposition will affect results.
- 3rd place in 2020 was a great result. Consolidation will allow them to consistently beat the bottom 5 teams.
6th. Mayfield
- 6th in 2020
- A club rebuilding, inconsistent results will see them finish mid table.
- Experienced players and efficient play will enable them to beat the bottom teams.
7th. Cooks Hill
- 5th in 2020
- Second year syndrome will take the intensity away from their game.
- Will just not beat many of the top 5 teams.
8th. Kotara
- 4th in 2019
- The loss of key players takes away a lot of goals and wins.
- Rebuilding an entire club after a year off will affect 1st grades depth and quality.
9th. Warners Bay
Missing the 2020 season will be hard to come back from.
- Will not have the squad depth to cover injuries, suspensions, absences.
- With approx. 12 points being traditionally enough to not finish last (relegation safety), W. Bay should be able to pick up 3 wins and 3 draws this season against lower teams.
10th. Beresfield
- 7th in 2020. Last place.
- Unlike Jesmond, Barnsley and Terrace in the past, the 2020 promotion squads are too good to go down in their second season.
- Just don’t have the quality in any areas of the pitch.
- Only 1 win in 2020. I can’t see them getting to the historical 12 points for safety.
so how does promotion/relegation work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cognitio
i'm assuming that if you get less than 12 points you are relegated and the winners of the league below is promoted? premiers or grand final winners?
is there more factors that go into it?
why don't they just make it automatic relegation like euro leagues?
i think he means if you don't reach 12points you will go.Quote:
Originally Posted by rod
It is automatic relegation (last) and promotion(premier) in the Zone Leagues except ZPL where the premiers stay put and have for years, but losers drop.
is it based on all 3 grades or just first grade?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
1st grade only.Quote:
Originally Posted by rod
FFA Cup tonight;
Cardiff 1 - 5 the other team
Now that we have seen some trials and FFA cup results here’s my predictions.
Suns
They appear in better form at this time of year than ever before. A 5-1 defeat of last years ‘Premiers’ suggest they are in for a big year.
Dudley
Looks like they have landed some quality this year. They just need to get over the semi final hurdle. Time will tell if the year off will help or hinder them. A Dudley v Suns GF what a promoters dream and security nightmare.
Swansea
They lose McGuire but keep Bevan. Their Reggies were good last year so they might be able to cover the lose. If so they will be there abouts.
Cardiff
This club is like a yo-yo over the years. They are really good one year and battle relegation the next. I don’t see them dropping of the cliff but with a full comp and teams strengthening they will battle between 3-6th
Azzurri
The lads came up all guns blazing and all hot air having dominating the lower divisions. The step up caught them out. They will score goals, my worry is can they stop them. After Monday nights result the wordy has only grown.
Cooks Hill
They held their own against Dudley in a trial and will beat the teams below them but may struggle to be the teams above them. If teams aren’t on their game Cookers will knock you over.
Mayfield
It will be a long year for the green Tigers. While other teams have strengthened these boys have stood still and it will show this year. If they play the long ball all year again they will be in for a relegation battle
Kotara
Tough one hear. They beat Azzurri in FFA cup but after a year off and a young squad I think Kotara will be up and down. They have a new coach and it will take time for them to get consistent. Will finish 5-8th
Warner’s Bay
I hope they stay up because their ground looks mint. The 2 games against Bero will be like GF’s
Bero
Were shocking last year and the comp has just gotten stronger. If they start getting beat easily I hope you pack the big shin pads
Opening Round Predictions
Swansea 2 Kotara 0
Warners Bay 1 Azzurri 4
Mayfield 2 Cooks Hill 3
Suns 4 Beresfield 1
Match of the Round
Dudley 2 Cardiff 1
Round 1 Stats and Predictions
Swansea vs. Kotara
- Swansea have won their last 4 opening day matches, suffering their last round 1 loss to the hands of Bero in 2016.
- Since their promotion in 2017, Kotara have won all three of their opening day matches while in ZPL. (3-1, 3-1, 4-1).
- The last time these teams met was in the 2019 ZPL Grand Final. Swansea won 2-0.
Swansea 3-0
W. Bay vs. Azzuri
- Warners Bay have lost all three of their opening round matches since their promotion in 2017.
- Azzuri lost their 2020 opening game to Swansea 3-2.
Azzuri 3-1
Mayfield vs. Cooks Hill
- There were a total of 12 goals in Mayfield and Cooks Hill’s two games last season.
- Cooks Hill have won their last 4 opening day fixture matches going back to 2016. A 2-0 loss to Kotara in Zone League One.
Draw 2-2
Suns vs. Bero
- Beresfield has lost their last 3 opening round fixtures. Their last opening round win came against Swansea in 2016.
- Beresfield won only 1 game in the 2020 COVID season. That was against the Suns (4-2).
- Beresfield could be considered a bit of a bogey team for the Suns. Since Beresfield’s promotion in 2015, Suns have won 5 games while Beresfield have won 6 matches (1 draw).
Suns 6-0
Dudley vs. Cardiff
- Dudley have won their last 5 encounters against Cardiff.
- Cardiff's last win against Dudley came in round 3 of the 2016 season, 8 matches ago.
- Dudley and Cardiff have played each other in the ZPL on 16 occasions since 2012. Cardiff with 5 wins, 2 draws and Dudley having 9 wins.
Draw 2-2
How is the home ground of Hexham Azzurri looking is it the old footy ground or is there another one in there
Great to some life injected into the forum! The weekend is almost upon us!
Predictions:
Swansea 2-2 Kotara; Grand final rematch. I fear that this will come too soon for the young Tigers, but the Swans are unproven without The Walking Stick. Early Swans lead to be cancelled out late in the game. Oh the drama!
W Bay 0-7 Azzurri; Carpet laid out for the Hexham Hornets. Playing on carpet will suit the Hornets, but it will be a very long 90 minutes for the weak Panthers.
Mayfield 2-2 Cooks; long ball galore. Tigers will play long ball. Cookers will try to play football but will quickly realise that can’t happen at Mayfield. Ugly.
Suns 12-1 Bero; Cricket score at the cricket oval. The start of very very long season for poor Bero. Suns won’t show mercy and will humiliate them. Won’t be clean.
Dudley 4-2 Cardiff; Thistle do me. Match of the round. I’ll be having beers with ForeverRed, throwing insults at the ultimate bogan of ZPL and his Tigers before ForeverFlog mugs me for my beer. A quick reality check for the Tigers awaits, as the Thistles start their season off to a flyer!
Swansea 3-1 Kotara -- Watched one game of the baby Tigers and I think against the experienced teams they will come unstuck pretty easily
Warners Bay 2-5 Azzurri -- Azzurri love a good old fashioned goal leak, but they're too dangerous up top
Mayfield 3-2 Cookers -- Cooks Hill look weaker this year after watching them in a trial against ZL1 Olympic. The Tigers looked decent in their FFA Cup games
Suns 3-1 Beresfield -- They always underperform against the lower teams in the comp. But Suns at their worst will easily account for a Bero at their best
Dudley 4-1 Cardiff -- I don't think any team in this comp can handle the combined quality of the Dudley side and the quality of the Dudley crowd sledging at Duggo
I’ll wander down, if I can get away from my keyboard :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Round 1 Predictions
Swansea 4-1 Kotara
Swansea will be too strong for Kotara who were lucky to beat Azzurri in the cup. This will likely be the most boring game of the round.
Warners Bay 2 - 3 Azzurri
For all the talk of Warners Bay being terrible, don't count them out. Hexham Azzurri missing four first grade players including one of their key players up top. They will continue to leak goals but they will be too strong in attack for the bay especially playing on a decent pitch.
Mayfield 3-2 Cooks Hill
Early six pointer as far as relegation is concerned. Cooks Hill have had a bit of a mixed pre-season and Mayfield will hit them with long balls all day.
Suns 7-0 Beresfield
With a few key players out due to suspension, this will be the best chance anyone has of beating the star-studded Suns this year. Rumour has it they're paying Daniel Casciaroli to play for them too. Add that to whatever they're paying the Palozzi boys and you've got a sizeable wage bill. Anything other than a flogging would be an upset.
Dudley 3-1 Cardiff
My boys the thistles will be coming in strong to this one. We have a good record against the 'diff and will look to continue it tomorrow. Expect a master class against last years champions.
The fact that people still think we pay players or have ever paid a single player is hilarious. It's definitely a massive compliment. I guess that's the whole point though, the forum would be boring if these sorts of comments weren't thrown around, so please do carry on kind sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtg
I'm sure as everyone would be, very much looking forward to kicking off the season. A favourable summer has led to just about every pitch being in the best condition in recent memory. Carrodise actually is completely covered in grass. Unfortunately the cricket square in the middle will forever be the nuisance that it is. We are however aiming to play a couple of games over at Myer Park this season which are yet to be confirmed.
Good luck to all this season. Hope its a great year and as injury free as possible!