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10-12 about coming or 10-12 about leaving?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
Coming in.
Sign this Michael Ruhs bloke from Macarthur.
Scores on the gypos, gives the crowd the business.
Top man.
Saw that at the end too. I was thinking "one of us, one of us" the whole time. If he'd have kicked a sauce bottle I think I may have blown a hole in my pants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost of Plague
I agree with all of this. Let's get someone in that can give some service instead of flicking Roy. Roy plays for the shirt, with Boogaard departing experience is vital.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we can find better than Roy. For all the talk of the team needing to feed him, which is sort of true, he still missed plenty of chances and he seems unable to create anything for himself.
He looked a yard off the pace all season when trying to get on the end low crosses and when he received anything inside the box I was never confident of him finishing off a half chance. I think age is just catching up with him, as it does to everyone.
A good player who did pretty well while he was here, but I think it's time to move on and find a younger striker. D'agostino is available, had a decent season even tho Perth sucked and had 45 different strikers to choose from. We probably couldn't get him, but a forward like him who can work across the front 3 would be a good move IMO.
You are wrong. That is not a minority opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I agree with everything youve saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I think you're spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Spot on
Spot on. The question then, is who is this coach and why hasn't it been announced? Papas is not currently under contract so would have been announced by now if it was him.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Of course we can find better, I can give you a list of 400 better strikers. The reality is we struggle to attract decent options. Why not keep Roy and get a foreigner that can play anywhere across the front line? That way there is some real competition for Roy, Yuel and Co to perform.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I agree age is catching up with him, He looked a bit slower this year. But as the second best striker stats wise in Jets history, I think we owe him the opportunity for another season. He qualifies as an Australian now, so he doesn't take a Visa spot.
Honestly from what I’ve seen this season. If we bring in a main striker or Forward, I’d want Archie to be getting the supplementary game time over Roy. Roy is hardly elusive, hardly clinical and not able to conjure something. He scores poacher goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield
I’m grateful for his contribution and his passion for this club, and I know he didn’t get much service this season, but I can’t condemn the club for wanting to be better.
If there’s 2 players, the quality / $$$ trade off is similar, then I’d be happy to keep Roy, stay loyal to existing players or a local Option. But if there’s a better option, we need to take it to be better.
Sentiment gets you nowhere in this game.
If Roy was on average squad player wages, I’d have him. If he’s commanding starter wages, no thanks.
Throw the kitchen sink at Parsons from Roar !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
What's Fornaroli's contract situation at the moment?
Contract would be up, but haven't seen anything about him leaving tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
can we do a reality check here that this is the Jets we are talking about, we more likely than not don't have the money to replace Roy so we'll wait till just before season start when there are no first string strikers around then sign a VPL striker and then we'll all be wondering why we have no senior striker in the team to mentor the young guys, we might even do the same with NTS's spot, classic Jets behaviour, rinse repeat...
If the club doesn't secure a seasoned striker to replace Roy and a genuine #10 this will be the last season for the club.
Anything less and we don't go anywhere near being a good flip for the blokes currently funding us.
My concern with the recruitment process is does this mean any player the club deems marquee money spot or the other two allocations and must be signed off by the other club owners thus giving them first refusal after our blokes do the leg work.
Would love to hear from Mattiske when it comes to filling these significant wage spots and how this works as far as confidentiality goes ?.
Mattiske the man of mystery. Is he actually here or does he work from home or Lederer’s office in Sydney.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Can anyone post up the article from today's Herald regarding player retention / wish list?
Roy has been released officially, there's really not much to discuss about.
https://www.newcastlejetsfc.com.au/n...arting-playersQuote:
Roy O’Donovan also departs the club after notching up 66 appearances for the Jets across two successful stints, which included the famous Grand Final run of 17/18.
He leaves Newcastle as the second leading goal scorer of all time with 32 goals.
Signed a 2 year extension as I wrote out my reply. So take him off your shopping list, haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
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Originally Posted by Frodo
THE Newcastle Jets are expected to confirm the appointment of Arthur Papas as coach this week, and Ange Postecoglou's former right-hand man at J-League champions Yokohama F Marinos Marinos could bring in up to 10 new faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
After upsetting Melbourne City 2-1 to avoid the wooden spoon, the Jets will undergo a major rebuild.
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Of the 32 players at the club last season, 16 have departed, headed by retired captain Nigel Boogaard and golden-boot winner Roy O'Donovan.
The future at the club of player-of-the-year Nikolai Topor-Stanley and striker Apostolos Stamatelopoulos will be determined by the new coach.
Assistant coach Karl Dodd appears unlikely to stay. It is unclear if support staff Chris Bowling and Bryce Johnson will continue.
The Jets are certain to take up an option on mid-season arrival Jordan O'Doherty, which would give them 16 contracted players, including scholarship holders Archie Goodwin and Blake Archbold.
James Donachie and Joey Champness are on the books but have been on loan to Brisbane and Goa. Champness has expressed a desire to stay in his home town, while Donachie has received interest from three clubs.
The Newcastle Herald also understands that the Jets have signed at least two players yet to be announced.
Jets football operations manager Joel Griffiths was cautious when asked about the impending arrival of Papas but confirmed that a potential new coach had been consulted regarding the building of the roster.
"He has to be," he said.
The Jets' recruitment will focus on both ends of the pitch.
They scored just 24 goals, five coming in the final three games, to have the lamest attack in the league. Western United, with 30, were second worst.
O'Donovan, with seven, contributed almost a third of the Jets' haul and Griffiths said it was a "tough one" to move on the 35-year-old, who in January was granted Australian citizenship.
"It was a tough one because he has been so good for the club," Griffiths said. "He is a good person to have at the club both on and off the park. I have a lot of respect for Roy. Things like this happen in football clubs.
"We need to change and he is not in the plans of the potential new coach.
"We are going hard for players. We want to recruit good players, whether they are young or old.
"We need players who will bring something to the team. There are good players in Europe, Asia and South America. We just have to do our due diligence and make sure they are the right fit for the club."
Boogaard's retirement, the exit by Lachlan Jackson to Korean club Suwon and uncertainty over Nikolai Topor-Stanley has left the Jets slim in defence, an area where they have boasted depth in the past.
"The potential coach is keeping his options open," Griffiths said. "He wants to see what else is out there and will make a decision in the not too distant future. We have a lot of work to fix the roster."
The last major overhaul of the Jets' roster was in 2017-18 when Ernie Merrick was appointed coach and took the club to the grand final in his first season.
Thanks AJ
This quote comes of little surprise to me and I hope we play hard ball on both players.Quote:
James Donachie and Joey Champness are on the books but have been on loan to Brisbane and Goa. Champness has expressed a desire to stay in his home town, while Donachie has received interest from three clubs.
If he wants to stay with the Roar, and they want him - fine. Lets talk about who you're giving us as a replacement.
If Donachie is going, lets get a transfer fee for him.
Centre back has gone from the position of greatest depth to most glaring weakness. Should Donachie go, I think NTS will get another year.
Champness for DWH, Nothing less otherwise Champness can spend a year not playing and rappingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
So childish.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
If this is how you want to attract player to the club, I'm very happy the club don't ask fans to be kept in the loop about decisions.
What we should be saying is... Let's try and convince Champness to play for us by offering a better platform than Roar and if not, and the Roar seem keen on him, let's get the best deal possible out of a losing situation and learn a lesson so we don't do it again. (Something that we seem to be working towards since Nabbout basically told the club they weren't a viable option for players right now, to their face.)
If a player doesn't want to play for you, there is every chance that the club is the problem. So, become a club that everyone wants to come play for and then have your choice of potential players in a few years time.
We've been mugged off too often and dont play hard ball enough, It needs to changeQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
AbsolutelyQuote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by Alton
Hardball?Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
With no leverage?
Sure thing.
Best Jets can hope for in return for Champness is to poach an up and coming talent who's looking to crack a starting spot on a team looking to avoid yet another spoon.
Sure sure we have all the aces up our sleeve.
Id love Champness to want to come back here too but he wants out and this is how it works.
Save face, make him post something nice on social media and pray we don't screw up the next young talent that shows up on our doorstep.
yeah absolutely no way we are gonna get DWH out of this, at best we get Parsons and at worst we get one of their youth or mebrahtuQuote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Players have the power. Contracts mean nothing for clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I think most of us have realised that we can’t afford to keep a player sitting in the stands, not playing. Also the message it sends to prospective buys is that we will be difficult. You don’t wanna go work for a company or organisation that has a history of making life difficult for employees that wish to leave. So I don’t think we really have much we can do.
I think most of us just want to see that the club don’t just bow down to other clubs. “Oh yeh Joey, he’s real good, do you want him? No worries, we’ll even cover 40% of the wages”. I’d like to see us pretend we aren’t gonna let it happen easy, ask for something in return, or at least put a line through the drama and move on and fill his spot.
The fact we ever thought he’d be back to us probably still makes our old Gypo ceo laugh.
Alternately, Stajcic apparently is leaving the sCCuM, wouldn't be the first time we made a move on one of their offcasts, also sounds more like us than being ambitious and signing a decent prospect... :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by A.J.
Leaving due to lack of funds.
He ain’t coming here
Where's the Stajcic news?
All over the internet. I saw it on twitterQuote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
Literally read it here and googled “stajic” and came up with all the news about stajcic.
Meant to be formally announced by club today.
Apparently asked for funds to improve the squad for next year. Wasn’t happy with level of funding.
Sounds familiarQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung