2022 HIT Northern League One

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15-02-2022, 09:25 AM
Yesk21

NL
Thornton
Singo
Westy
Stags
Belswans
Kahibah
Southy
Wallsend
Cessnock
19-02-2022, 08:30 AM
Yesk21

Any trial games on this weekend?
19-02-2022, 10:05 AM
Hunter403

NL vs Adamstown at Adamstown on Saturday
19-02-2022, 09:37 PM
ABCDEF

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

NL vs Adamstown at Adamstown on Saturday

Adamstown won 3-0. New Lambton looked ok though and I think they’ll dominate the comp pretty comfortably.
20-02-2022, 01:43 PM
BBscone

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Originally Posted by ABCDEF

Adamstown won 3-0. New Lambton looked ok though and I think they’ll dominate the comp pretty comfortably.

New Lambton were below par, very flat. Missing a few starters but if they play like that this season the comp opens up substantially. Buds were ok, they will struggle but a young team still, missing a few themselves. Someone told me NL 18s are undefeated against NPL opponents in 2 years. Better development in NPL.....depends on the Club it seems.
28-02-2022, 09:36 AM
Hunter403

Overall some pretty good results for New Lambton over the weekend vs Magic. Good to see NL competitive against a NPL big gun.

Kahibah had a good day out against Southy in all three grades. Not bad for their first games.
28-02-2022, 02:38 PM
Yesk21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter403

Overall some pretty good results for New Lambton over the weekend vs Magic. Good to see NL competitive against a NPL big gun.

Kahibah had a good day out against Southy in all three grades. Not bad for their first games.

Scores?
28-02-2022, 03:03 PM
Hunter403

NL vs Magic
1st 2-4
Res 1-0 (Magic 18s)
18s 3-1 (Magic 16s)

Southy v Kahibah
1st 1-4
Res 0-3
18 0-4
01-03-2022, 08:46 AM
JakeS

ZPL First Grade Goalkeeper

Due to a change in circumstances Dudley ZPL now have a position available as first grade goalkeeper.
Any goalkeeper who is interested in a change or looking for an opportunity to play first grade is asked to contact Head Coach Mark Wilson on 0434 437 691.
07-03-2022, 04:46 PM
BBscone

So Singleton pulled teams out of another Youth age? U14s? They may as well introduce themselves to ZPL but Northern will issue another wrist slap and say at least they tried. The NL1 comp is seriously on life support. Northern have no plan for growth of the game, zero care and their management is so poor.
07-03-2022, 05:20 PM
Hunter403

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Originally Posted by BBscone

So Singleton pulled teams out of another Youth age? U14s? They may as well introduce themselves to ZPL but Northern will issue another wrist slap and say at least they tried. The NL1 comp is seriously on life support. Northern have no plan for growth of the game, zero care and their management is so poor.

Could not agree more. Disgrace
07-03-2022, 05:28 PM
mge61

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

Could not agree more. Disgrace

Been a disgrace for years. What’s the point of having age groups aligned through senior clubs to try and improve standards or whatever and just let clubs pull teams out. Cut the comps back to the clubs that honestly meet the criteria.
07-03-2022, 06:42 PM
Shere Khan

Northern have been wishing and hoping that youth sides will fix themselves for years.
If you put “in theory” the best in the Jets and that’s a whole another story the next go to NPL so what’s left are divided between NL1 and those that just can’t afford the above.
So you could say that some of the best players miss out because it’s pay to play.
Also the amount of players are just not there.
07-03-2022, 06:49 PM
Jardelsimage

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Originally Posted by Shere Khan

Northern have been wishing and hoping that youth sides will fix themselves for years.
If you put “in theory” the best in the Jets and that’s a whole another story the next go to NPL so what’s left are divided between NL1 and those that just can’t afford the above.
So you could say that some of the best players miss out because it’s pay to play.
Also the amount of players are just not there.

correct, as said before top 20 in each age got to Jets(no charge)
next ones with rich mummies and daddies( or parents who struggle just give there kid a shot) go to NPL1, (that's 200 kids, 20 per team)
Sorry NP2 taking your cash cow away now.....
the rest go back to community football and get charged normal fees.
If you have to much money to waste, put your kid in every coaching clinic that comes up.

cheers
08-03-2022, 08:58 AM
northern_swan

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Originally Posted by Jardelsimage

correct, as said before top 20 in each age got to Jets(no charge)

Pretty sure Jets isn't free...
08-03-2022, 09:02 AM
Jardelsimage

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Originally Posted by northern_swan

Pretty sure Jets isn't free...

correct, but it should be, that way you would at least get the best 90% always as spot for the coaches son, :wink::wink::wink:
08-03-2022, 09:15 AM
northern_swan

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Originally Posted by Jardelsimage

correct, but it should be, that way you would at least get the best 90% always as spot for the coaches son, :wink::wink::wink:

Don't disagree with you there, Jets should absolutely be free.
08-03-2022, 01:27 PM
Alton

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

Could not agree more. Disgrace

Here we go again, do away with NPL 2, Have NPL 1 with all age groups then just have ZPL underneath it as the second division. Kids that dont make Jets program or NPL 1 can bolster A grade in Community Football
08-03-2022, 01:39 PM
Zico

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Originally Posted by Alton

Here we go again, do away with NPL 2, Have NPL 1 with all age groups then just have ZPL underneath it as the second division. Kids that dont make Jets program or NPL 1 can bolster A grade in Community Football

Spot on!!! Less rego for NNSW but better outcome for local football.
08-03-2022, 03:54 PM
Goatscheese

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Originally Posted by Zico

Spot on!!! Less rego for NNSW but better outcome for local football.

Worse outcome. Limiting the pool of players isn't going to start developing A-league and National players
08-03-2022, 04:43 PM
ranger

Npl 1 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds
Npl 2 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds

Week in week out this creates the most competitive games across the 16 teams.

Promote and relegate between the 2 every year. Without fail. No excuses and no safety nets.

After that ZPL - to ZL3 with promote and relegate.

Leave juniors unattached to zone leagues and to play in Inter-district.

Open up applications into Npl 2 every few years. But make criteria very clear. And if you meet it you go up. If Npl2 gets to big make a Npl 3.

If can't meet Npl 2 criteria drop back to zone leagues and Inter-district. Rebuild. That can be better for a club than being perennial bottom feeders. If they rebuild in afew years they can be back into Npl if can meet requirements.

It's seems at the moment there isn't enough players to play at the level required for npl/newfm commitments. And at the other end to many kids are dropping out of interdistrict cause npl and newfm suck up anyone who is remotely skilled.

Parents, private coaches/academies and clubs create and develop national level players. It's Northerns job to create the best environment and competition for these players to play in.

Anyway this issue comes up every few weeks. This is just my thoughts on it and how best to grow both ends of the game.
08-03-2022, 05:02 PM
Hunter403

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger

Npl 1 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds
Npl 2 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds

Week in week out this creates the most competitive games across the 16 teams.

Promote and relegate between the 2 every year. Without fail. No excuses and no safety nets.

After that ZPL - to ZL3 with promote and relegate.

Leave juniors unattached to zone leagues and to play in Inter-district.

Open up applications into Npl 2 every few years. But make criteria very clear. And if you meet it you go up. If Npl2 gets to big make a Npl 3.

If can't meet Npl 2 criteria drop back to zone leagues and Inter-district. Rebuild. That can be better for a club than being perennial bottom feeders. If they rebuild in afew years they can be back into Npl if can meet requirements.

It's seems at the moment there isn't enough players to play at the level required for npl/newfm commitments. And at the other end to many kids are dropping out of interdistrict cause npl and newfm suck up anyone who is remotely skilled.

Parents, private coaches/academies and clubs create and develop national level players. It's Northerns job to create the best environment and competition for these players to play in.

Anyway this issue comes up every few weeks. This is just my thoughts on it and how best to grow both ends of the game.

This approach seems to be the preferred model of just about everyone on this forum. What a shame no one at NNSW Football takes any notice. What iceberg? Where?....
09-03-2022, 06:04 AM
Jardelsimage

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger

Npl 1 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds
Npl 2 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds

Week in week out this creates the most competitive games across the 16 teams.

Promote and relegate between the 2 every year. Without fail. No excuses and no safety nets.

After that ZPL - to ZL3 with promote and relegate.

Leave juniors unattached to zone leagues and to play in Inter-district.

Open up applications into Npl 2 every few years. But make criteria very clear. And if you meet it you go up. If Npl2 gets to big make a Npl 3.

If can't meet Npl 2 criteria drop back to zone leagues and Inter-district. Rebuild. That can be better for a club than being perennial bottom feeders. If they rebuild in afew years they can be back into Npl if can meet requirements.

It's seems at the moment there isn't enough players to play at the level required for npl/newfm commitments. And at the other end to many kids are dropping out of interdistrict cause npl and newfm suck up anyone who is remotely skilled.

Parents, private coaches/academies and clubs create and develop national level players. It's Northerns job to create the best environment and competition for these players to play in.

Anyway this issue comes up every few weeks. This is just my thoughts on it and how best to grow both ends of the game.

I like that, sensible approach to the solution.
As you also say I still dont think there are enough kids per age group, 16 teams x #18/20 360ish, plus top 20 go to jets, but we have to start somewhere.

Northern we know you all read the forum, take some notes, make it your idea if you wish, we all dont care........just fix the problem or are the cash rewards to great...
09-03-2022, 09:56 AM
Goatscheese

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jardelsimage

I like that, sensible approach to the solution.
As you also say I still dont think there are enough kids per age group, 16 teams x #18/20 360ish, plus top 20 go to jets, but we have to start somewhere.

Northern we know you all read the forum, take some notes, make it your idea if you wish, we all dont care........just fix the problem or are the cash rewards to great...

Northern listen to the NPL clubs and NPL TDs too much who under this proposal of promotion and relegation (and I would hope separate for youth and seniors) as it would mean they would have to do their job in developing youth rather than just poaching the best players from lower teams.
09-03-2022, 10:55 AM
The Berlin Wall

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

Northern listen to the NPL clubs and NPL TDs too much who under this proposal of promotion and relegation (and I would hope separate for youth and seniors) as it would mean they would have to do their job in developing youth rather than just poaching the best players from lower teams.

Geez, you still bleeting on about losing a couple of kids to better clubs? Dude - you got half your U12 team into TSP through Northern listening to TD's and coaches so the current system is working just fine for you.
09-03-2022, 12:12 PM
Goatscheese

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Originally Posted by The Berlin Wall

Geez, you still bleeting on about losing a couple of kids to better clubs? Dude - you got half your U12 team into TSP through Northern listening to TD's and coaches so the current system is working just fine for you.

I am talking about the need for development. Perhaps if you focused on developing players and not just caring about wins you would be a better coach for kids
09-03-2022, 12:43 PM
finzee

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Originally Posted by ranger

Npl 1 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds
Npl 2 - 8 teams. Snrs and Jnrs. 3 rounds

Minimum 10 teams in NPL. Minimum 8 in NPL2.

Youth decoupled. NPL youth 8-10 teams. NPL2 8-12 teams depending on what can be sustained.
09-03-2022, 01:11 PM
The Berlin Wall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goatscheese

I am talking about the need for development. Perhaps if you focused on developing players and not just caring about wins you would be a better coach for kids

What about those kids who won't get the elite development from Northern because you took spots for your boys? real talk - you poached a few extra places by promising to bolster up the Northern coaching ranks so don't get all high and mighty buddy. We see you
09-03-2022, 05:39 PM
Hunter403

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Originally Posted by finzee

Minimum 10 teams in NPL. Minimum 8 in NPL2.

Youth decoupled. NPL youth 8-10 teams. NPL2 8-12 teams depending on what can be sustained.

Still too diluted. 8 and 8 would give two strong comps.

But if you must have 18, make NPL2 the bigger.
NPL1
Jaffas
Maitland
Edgy
Magic
Charlestown
Weston
Olympic
Cooks Hill

NPL2
Valentine
Adamstown
Lakes
Westy
Kahibah
Belswans
New Lambton
Southy
Thornton
Cessnock

Based on the last few years performance (i.e. fielding teams), ZPL for Wallsend, Toronto, Singo. They can win their way up if they are good enough and can meet the criteria
If NPL2 produces strong enough teams, then go to 10 and 8 with room to expand if the talent is there and the new NPL2 teams exhibit a desire to develop players.
09-03-2022, 07:32 PM
Hotline

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Originally Posted by Hunter403

Still too diluted. 8 and 8 would give two strong comps.

But if you must have 18, make NPL2 the bigger.

Agree with the 8 and 8. But another idea which I am not sure has been floated before is to keep NL1 but reduce the criteria and associated fees to allow strong ZPL teams to potentially be interested, maybe Mayfield, Dudley, Swansea (just name dropping) plus a couple of others. This could be an 8 team comp as well with say 1st, res, 18s and 16s.

While there wouldn't be any pro/rel it could potentially work as a stepping stone into NPL and reduce the gap between ZPL and NL1 that there is now.

Food for thought.
09-03-2022, 10:34 PM
Goatscheese

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Berlin Wall

What about those kids who won't get the elite development from Northern because you took spots for your boys? real talk - you poached a few extra places by promising to bolster up the Northern coaching ranks so don't get all high and mighty buddy. We see you

Mate don't know what you're on about, and I think you have a serious reading comprehension problem. Probably because you know it's you everyone is laughing at for poaching players so you can win U11s
09-03-2022, 10:35 PM
Goatscheese

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter403

Still too diluted. 8 and 8 would give two strong comps.

But if you must have 18, make NPL2 the bigger.
NPL1
Jaffas
Maitland
Edgy
Magic
Charlestown
Weston
Olympic
Cooks Hill

NPL2
Valentine
Adamstown
Lakes
Westy
Kahibah
Belswans
New Lambton
Southy
Thornton
Cessnock

Based on the last few years performance (i.e. fielding teams), ZPL for Wallsend, Toronto, Singo. They can win their way up if they are good enough and can meet the criteria
If NPL2 produces strong enough teams, then go to 10 and 8 with room to expand if the talent is there and the new NPL2 teams exhibit a desire to develop players.

And then have promotion and relegation. Separate for both youth and senior
10-03-2022, 08:07 AM
Hunter403

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goatscheese

And then have promotion and relegation. Separate for both youth and senior

agreed
10-03-2022, 04:10 PM
finzee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter403

If NPL2 produces strong enough teams, then go to 10 and 8 with room to expand if the talent is there and the new NPL2 teams exhibit a desire to develop players.

Sounds about right
13-03-2022, 09:02 AM
Yesk21

Any trial results
15-03-2022, 09:37 AM
GO AWAY

Toronto Awaba v Cardiff tonight.

Former NPL keeper in goals, sorry not sure who it is, but name is shayne.
15-03-2022, 12:15 PM
mge61

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

Toronto Awaba v Cardiff tonight.

Former NPL keeper in goals, sorry not sure who it is, but name is shayne.

Guessing van As.
15-03-2022, 11:13 PM
BBscone

NL played Mayfield ZPL. Missed score as I was leaving but saw 3 goals to NL late.
16-03-2022, 07:59 AM
The Hacker

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

Toronto Awaba v Cardiff tonight.

Former NPL keeper in goals, sorry not sure who it is, but name is shayne.

How did this end up
16-03-2022, 08:23 AM
Hotline

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBscone

NL played Mayfield ZPL. Missed score as I was leaving but saw 3 goals to NL late.

Ended up 5-1 I think.

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