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Originally Posted by Aegon
A reminder for everyone of the posting guidelines as it would be great if this thread could actually last until the start of the actual season.
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There’s that post again. Does this apply to you also?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegon
Refer back to point 1 sentence 2 before posting again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie
An adult response would have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegon
"Yes the rules apply to me and ill ensure that I'm not being offensive if someone has raised an issue with a post i have made and consider that with increased power comes increased responsibilities."
Problem solved. It's not terribly difficult to not be antagonistic on purpose 🤣
No he wants to let us know he has power to block us and name us. I haven?t said anything bad :sigh:Quote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
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Does anyone on here know how Torontos youth recruiting is going?I have already heard there will be clubs not fielding some NPL youth age groups again this season.
The last I heard, they were confident of fielding all teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Thats good to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegon
Out of interest which clubs are you hearing might not be fielding teams?Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
I am not going to say because hopefully things have changed over the last few weeks and they have found a solution.I would rather not be responsible for scaring potential recruits away.Hopefully if theres any kids out there that still want an opportunity at the NPL level its not too late to get a spot somewhere.Draws usually come out around this time of year so it might be a bit clearer then if any clubs have come up short.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Carl
With no punishment for not fielding a team. Why would a club enter a team that will be beat each week. That?s just giving every other club 3 free points. Azzurri didn?t field a side last year and every team didn?t get 3 points for a bye. It?s actually smart if you are looking at having an average sideQuote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Must be difficult having 3 or 4 grades out of the 5. Instantly put into the 3rd div when the tables break away. But theres the chance to build up the full quota for next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
Probably better to have no youth then to have 1 or 2 teams. Well played Stags.
Charlestown finished bottom of the club championship and are now in Div2. Seems they got all their teams but they had their years grace so got away with it. Important to note that Toronto did want to field 2 teams last season but were told they can't, had promotion and relegation been in this year they wouldn't have been going up due to not having teams (seems like a punishment to me).Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
From my understanding you are only allowed to have 1 team missing for 1 yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
They couldn’t field teams and finished bottom but they didn’t miss parents with rego costs,ex jets players don’t come cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Perhaps they are one of the few NPL clubs not using the JDL and PYL rego fees to pay for players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie
Perhaps, but highly doubt it. They all do it, money goes into same accounts in the end. But if I was a club that couldn’t fill all teams I’d try make it more appealing to attract players and lower rego would be a start especially if I’m in lower grades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Or you could be like another club that wears the same colours and use the money to pay YOUTH players regos to sign them ����*♂️
Which club is offering free rego to some youth players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie
It?s obvious there?s to many youth teams in the area, NPL , NL1, way to many,
I disagree.The more youth wanting to play at their highest possible level is a good thing.Its more about getting the structure right so winning and development are put in the right places.I feel the current system is doing a much better job of achieving that.Happy for the structure to keep tweaking to keep getting better outcomes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Disagree. We definitely dont have enough players to cover 24 teams at a competitive level. We did well this year by breaking into 3 divisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
The only thing we can do next is divide the 3 divisions at individual ages where a club might have 13s in A 14s in B 16s in c etc. But iirc this is too hard for clubs to administer.
Most importantly imo is to have the C licence coaching course at a much more affordable cost. $1000 is a rort. Females had a chance to do this for free with nnsw, males have to pay. Better coaches at ALL clubs is the answer.
At least with JDL and about half the clubs having 2 teams the number of players coming through at a competitive level is increasing. Since a club can't take all players from both teams those other players will have to filter through to other clubs.
So you disagree with my point then in the exact next sentence repeat the exact point you just disagreed with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Anyone else see that Newcastle Basketball is planning on developing Blackley and Wallarah ovals?
I’m not sure if they still being used for premier youth football, but there’s another 3 fields the sport is losing.
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/s...-short/?cs=305
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Originally Posted by ForeverRed
FR said that there are too many npl npl1 youth teams and you disagreed with that. right? So imo he was correct. and by tweaking the 3rd division which is hardly npl level so less clubs at top level. 8 teams in 1st, 8 in 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
The best thing about this structure is that all Npl nl1 teams should have better coaching than community teams and we know that isnt the case either.
Because theres not 'too many teams' its just how they are structured,which we all agree with.I like the current structure but there will be floggings in the 1st part of the season.But thats ok because until the teams are exposed to what the highest level is they can never aspire to it or even begin to look prepared for it.Look at what Lakes/Cooks Hill and New Lambton are doing vs clubs like Wallsend and Adamstown.Closing off the top level gives clubs no hope to get better,and lets established clubs rest on their laurels.In my opinion thats not the best way forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
There are plenty of very talented players in the 3rd tier.The very top of the top tier just tends to have 16 very good players,where as the further down the ladder you go theres just less of them per team.Just as much success in NPL youth can be put down to recruitment vs coaching,which annoys me and it goes back to your point about coaching standards.I saw a lot of really poorly coached teams in the finals in NPL and NL1 last year,but clubs would rather see better players be brought in rather than improve the coaching standards as long as they are winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
I would argue that currently recruiting in PYL wins out over coaching when it comes to results. Coaching in what was NL1 youth is far harder than in what was NPL youth because of the difference in player quality. I know as I have done it. At the lower level you are educating players in skills that the kids in the higher level already have.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
However, in saying that you are being pretty harsh on coaches that got their teams to finals. What do you consider a "really poorly coached team"?
I SMH whenever I read people on here talk about development and player quality. The kids are playing in a low standard league in a city that loves footy in a country that doesn?t give a hoot about soccer. What are kids being developed for? Parents egos? Clubs and private coaches bank accounts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
Kids should win all the medals they can and coaches should be applauded for helping them do that. Development? Don?t make me laugh. Life?s too short. Let the kids enjoy winning because it don?t last long and no kid playing NPL in Newy is going to make a living from the game.
Cooks Hill got walloped in all youth grades, New Lambton did a little better. That point doesnt make sense to me. We did expose all clubs to all levels in the 1st round and found many of the games were a 1 sided farce. Happened for years. I didnt see many if any kids like being exposed to 7 8 9 10 nil routs. And the winning teams learned very little. It didnt work. Having the 3 divisions was a big improvement which most of us agree. Of course there a a couple of good players in div 3 but there isnt many. Its up to clubs to build and hopefully coach their teams into competitive clubs. Or those few should players can trial for div 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
We need a competitive comps. Having individual age groups occupying the top divisions would be ideal but it seems to difficult for logistics.
Been here 5 minutes? because if you had anything to do with the sport you wouldn't be calling it soccer. go somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bear
There is quite a few kids from newy both past and present who have made money from playing, both locally, at higher levels and overseas.
go find something else to do with your time.
Certain coaches in certain clubs. Large majority are pretty good to very good. Its a select few. Think of those teams that have an egotistical loud mouth coach. They are arrogant, usual do what every they want, are obnoxious to the kids and ultimately don't teach the kids a good technical game or how to be a decent human. Now think hard where you have seen this. Ive seen a few. And some mentioned on here. end of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
So you?d be one of those ego parents? Little Jimmy gonna be the one that makes it from this generation is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
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Originally Posted by Thomas477
Yes I saw that it Council's plan with it. Not only losing it from our sport but also from cricket as well. Not sure why they just can't redevelop the existing basketball stadium. Or build one on all the land they currently have.
Watch out for what Nelmes and Clausen and their best friend Bath have in plan for Magic Park too, lot of money to upgrade Meyer's Park no doubt may be taking back Magic Park.
Most of the people who got it to this stage called it soccer and that's what it isQuote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
lol, name some?Quote:
Originally Posted by My2BobsWorth
Land there is owned by the state government not the council. it is also part of the state plan redevelopment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy