HAL 13/14 Rd 1 - Sydney FC vs Newcastle Jets - 11/10/13 k/off 730pm AEDST

Hopefully Gary will have us playing the good old 4-2-3-1 / 4-3-3 whichever way you look at it

The back four is set in stone and will be:
Neville - chapo - aliens - gallaway

Zads obviously in the middle with either the beard or caravella. I'm not sure which I'd rather, which is good to have to depth there

Surely taggart will play up front at the point with Goodwin on the left.

The last two are up for grabs I think. Ideally brown will be the #10 but he's probably a bit of a risk atm so from that point of view I think bridges will start and burns will be on the right

Ideally I think Virgili needs to come off the bench but with Brown being an unknown currently, another option is Burns playing behind Taggart and Virgili on the right

Whats the go with Jacob Pepper? A lot of potential but has gone missing over pre-season... Does he still have a place in this squad?

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Originally Posted by newi24-2-08

Whats the go with Jacob Pepper? A lot of potential but has gone missing over pre-season... Does he still have a place in this squad?

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He has been playing in Pre season games?? Probably down the pecking order behind Zads Brillante Zenon Kanta

Birighitti

Neville Jaliens Chapman Gallaway

Zad Caravella

Burns Bridges Goodwin

Taggart

Bench:
Kennedy
Kanta
Regs
Virgilli
Brown

Heskey to come in when fit

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Originally Posted by uni_fc

Birighitti

Neville Jaliens Chapman Gallaway

Zad Caravella

Burns Bridges Goodwin

Taggart

Bench:
Kennedy
Kanta
Regs
Virgilli
Brown

Heskey to come in when fit

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Still no idea why people put Burns on the right wing. He has said all along that his prefered position is in the hole behind the striker and that's a position we were awful with last year. Virgili will surely start while Heskey is out injured, Burns in at #10 and Taggart at the point. When Heskey comes back, I reckon it all depends on how good Virgili has been... he will either keep his starting spot or Taggart will get moved to the right of the front three.

Grimmarz pretty much on the moolah imo.

:cool:

I agree with those that are starting Burns on the right and Vigilli on the bench, Bridges at no 10. Pre-season reports are that Bridges is playing well there and providing great through balls and Burns has skill to go past people with pure skill and has great finishing.

Vigilli is improving but his greatest asset is his pace. His pace is best used against a tired defence, if you think of all his goals/assists last year almost all of them were when he came on with 20-30 minutes to go and run at a tired defence.

So I would be looking at starting Bridges at 10, Burns on the right and Vigilli on the bench. At about 60-70 minute mark I would be bringing Bridges off, move Burns to no 10 and put Vigilli on the right to tear apart a tired defence and either create his own chances or lay it on a platter for Taggs or Burns coming into the box late. Depending on Burns fitness first game it could be a straight swap with Vigilli if Burns's strain isn't 100%.

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Originally Posted by scarfy96

Vigilli is improving but his greatest asset is his pace. His pace is best used against a tired defence, if you think of all his goals/assists last year almost all of them were when he came on with 20-30 minutes to go and run at a tired defence.

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he is a goal scoring machine. just which of his goals last year was your favourite ? :gent:

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Originally Posted by scarfy96

if you think of all his goals/assists last year almost all of them were when he came on with 20-30 minutes to go and run at a tired defence.

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Virgili has 2 season career assists to his name & no goals.

One assist was against CCM for Heskey, which Virgili was not a sub. I can't remember the other assist, was it off the bench though?

OK but he had 16 attempts on goal, and IMO when he looks most dangerous is when he is running at a tired defence, it allows him to use his speed, rather than burning his speed against a fresh defence. Hopefully with his continued development and ability to finish some in pre-season this year then those attempts will translate to a few goals this year but looking at our options I would put him behind Burns, Taggart, Goodwin, and Heskey which means starting on the bench. The question is who is most effective at number 10, is it Bridges, Burns or will Brown come into that role. Either way it is Vigilli off the bench as an impact in the last 20-30 minutes for me.

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Originally Posted by scarfy96

OK but he had 16 attempts on goal, and IMO when he looks most dangerous is when he is running at a tired defence, it allows him to use his speed, rather than burning his speed against a fresh defence. Hopefully with his continued development and ability to finish some in pre-season this year then those attempts will translate to a few goals this year but looking at our options I would put him behind Burns, Taggart, Goodwin, and Heskey which means starting on the bench. The question is who is most effective at number 10, is it Bridges, Burns or will Brown come into that role. Either way it is Vigilli off the bench as an impact in the last 20-30 minutes for me.

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Except in that front 4 you put him behind, Heskey is injured and Burns has already stated his desire to play the number 10. Given every player who played as our playmaker last season was awful, why would we persist with the two who were used there when a "fringe Socceroo" is in our team and wanting to play that role? Burns behind the striker, Taggart up front, Virgili on the right. The team just about picks itself.

Burns isn't the first-choice number 10. GVE was well-documented saying he brought him in to play on the left of a front three. I think you'll find Burns said he likes anywhere, but probably prefers #10 as he sees the ball more. It means nothing. In a first choice GVE-picked team, Burns is a LW.

BTW scarfy FWIW I agree with you that Chilli is more of an impact player. I think I really hammered GVE last season for starting him against Victory as he was never going to be anything close to useful against a fresh Traore.

If you look at the leftbacks other teams have this season it is:
- Steffanuto (Brisbane)
- Rose (CCM)
- Cassio (Adelaide)
- Heffernan/Dapuzz (WSW)
- Warren/Grant (Syd)
- Jamieson (Perth)
- Muscat (Wellington)
- Traore (Victory)
- Behich (Heart)

Now Victory & Heart aside (maybe Sydney if Grant is there), all the leftbacks are getting old and/or are useless. I would definately be wanting a livewire impact sub against those old/crappy legs.

I'm not disagreeing that Virgili is a better sub than starter either... just that with Heskey out and how pre-season has gone, is Goodwin really going to be at fullback? And if he isn't, that kind of takes the LW spot and means Burns isn't there either.

Would actually like to see Virgilli used late in games as a striker if we are winning.


Feel his speed could be of massive use if he can break some offside traps as teams push forward on us

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Except in that front 4 you put him behind, Heskey is injured and Burns has already stated his desire to play the number 10. Given every player who played as our playmaker last season was awful, why would we persist with the two who were used there when a "fringe Socceroo" is in our team and wanting to play that role? Burns behind the striker, Taggart up front, Virgili on the right. The team just about picks itself.

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Except that GVE has stated many times he brought Burns in for his ability to go past people - repeated again in todays rag - and at almost every opportunity he has played in wide right in pre-season (admittedly these have been limited due to contract and injury) which baring one statement by Burns that he fancied the number 10 role has been the consistent line from the Jets - Burns to play on the right. So front 3 I still think will be:

Goodwin Taggart Burns

With Bridges at no 10.

What happens to Taggs when Heskey is again fit will be interesting. I guess that will depend on how he plays, and how Goodwin plays and how Bridges goes at no 10.

I still think Vigilli will come on at 60-70 minutes either as a straight swap for Burns if there is any doubt over him or for Bridges and Burns will go central.

Reports both in the Herald and the Jets own media indicated that Bridges passing in the first half v Mariners was very creative and regularly put players through and that when he went off the supply dried up. So for my reading of things Burns will start in the position for which he was bought (on the right hand side), Goodwin will start left, and Bridges will be the supply line.

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Would actually like to see Virgilli used late in games as a striker if we are winning.


Feel his speed could be of massive use if he can break some offside traps as teams push forward on us

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This could be an interesting call. I wonder how that would pan out?

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Originally Posted by scarfy96

Except that GVE has stated many times

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There's your problem, taking anything that muppet says as gospel. :gent:

I guess we will find out in a week and a half hey.

Virgilli up front isn't a bad option late in the game. Guess it is an option until Heskey is back 100%, after that can't see it happening much.

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Would actually like to see Virgilli used late in games as a striker if we are winning.


Feel his speed could be of massive use if he can break some offside traps as teams push forward on us

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Late in game options if we are losing? Regan or Chapman :lulz:

Score tips?
Honestly i don't think we'll pull it off this year down in sydney, still seem to be a team in transition despite bulk of squad being together for while now. Sydney 3 - Jets 1

I think Sydney are awful and will be scrapping it out for the spoon with one or two other clubs.

Sadly, I think we are going to be one of those clubs :(

All depends on Dutchies team selection, and therein lies the problem

It's all bollocks with Burns anyway.
He's the Jets dirty one night stand who we are deleting off our phone as soon as we're done.
Put the new bloke at #10. Least he looks like he can pass a ball.
We'll lose.

Great first touches, deft triangle passing, solid defence not looking like conceding, a couple of goals out of the top drawer and ADP as quiet as a church mouse.

.....and then I woke up.

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Great first touches, deft triangle passing, solid defence not looking like conceding, a couple of goals out of the top drawer and ADP as quiet as a church mouse.

.....and then I woke up.

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I was going to ask how is fifa 14?

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I was going to ask how is fifa 14?

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Apparently PES shits all over it this year. At least till you try multiplayer and then pes is an absolute disaster.

Jerks to slog out a 1 all draw...gary to flog on bout us havin all the possession...Biz to have 60+ touches...Bridges to take it to the corner flag...several players to play out of position...ADP to dive and generally try and influence the officials...Jaliens to question why the fvck he came here etc

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Apparently PES shits all over it this year. At least till you try multiplayer and then pes is an absolute disaster.

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correct.

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Originally Posted by scarfy96

I guess we will find out in a week and a half hey.

Virgilli up front isn't a bad option late in the game. Guess it is an option until Heskey is back 100%, after that can't see it happening much.

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Would be more than happy to see Heskey drop back into the 10 role if we are holding on leaving Chilli up front. Heskey can get on the ball and hold it up more than being isolated as the 9. Chilli in lots of space with his speed could be a goldmine

updated thread title

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2012/2013 Hyundai A-League

Season 9 Round 1

Sydney FC vs Newcastle United Jets FC

When: Friday 11th October, 2012
Where: Allianz Stadium, Driver Ave, Moore Park, NSW
Kickoff: 730pm AEDST (gates open 6pm)
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2-2 I think. Burns and Taggart.

Need Zad and Beard/Caravella to hack down ADP and Carle......****s..

Id probably go with:


Birraz

Neville Jaliens Chapman Gallaway

Zadkovich Beard

Virgilli Burns Goodwin

Taggart

Goodwin has had a fair bit of success against Bojic in the past so id like to see him there. Chapman or Regan is a flip of the coin for me but Chapman will start imo


Where is everyone drinking beforehand?

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Originally Posted by newi24-2-08

Where is everyone drinking beforehand?

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look at the post above yours

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Jets 2 Sydney 1

Both our goals in the first half burns and taggart and Sydney with theirs around the 75th minute mark with del piero.

Heskey to start I am calling it.
3 weeks in cotton wool for a minor knee injury and Heskeytime will be unleashed on the unsuspecting Smurfs.

3-3 Draw.

3 Calamitous **** ups from the JETS defensively coughing up the ball.

Birraz to do nothing other than the 3 times picking ball out of net after being left high and dry again and the standard 400 touches per half

Sydney 1 Jets 2
Virgili and Taggart to score for us after ADP gives them the lead

Expect ADP to spend even more time on the floor this season.

All teams must negate this and minimise set pieces.

However I'm just dying for someone (Rubes) to completely take him out in the first five minutes and stand over him saying "get up you pussy" !

Will be a shite game, both teams will be rusty as.

Probs Loose with ADP being the only player on the pitch that remembers how to play football.

Wont make it to the game but will be at tenzo yewwwwwwwwww

We'll lose 0-0.

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Originally Posted by plague

We'll lose 0-0.

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Your confused Plague 0-0 is actually a win.


We have GVE so we get the biscuits based on this disadvantage