2015 NPL Youth

Depends on the context....

If the azzurri striker was heading TOWARDS the goal and would have scored, it should've been a red.
But, if the player had deviated his path away from goal (even in the slightest) then it would be a yellow. Hard to say based on heresay.

The "last man" is a mythical phrase that does not appear in the laws of the game.

The send off offence alluded to is:

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denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick

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However, its a matter of subjectivity with how you saw the incident, to what actually happened, and again to how the referee saw the incident.

Olympic 17s killing it.

Only three teams left in the 17's who can get last place in the finals, Jaffas, CCB and Adamstown even thought Adamstown are currently 9th and need a miracle........
An indication of the closeness of the comp, except perhaps for Hamilton who can complete a perfect season with a win over Weston in two weeks.

Azzuri v Lambton this weekend

Azzuri win, i think they grab fourth spot.
Lambton win or draw they keep fourth spot.

Azzuri win, i think they grab fourth spot.

Correct CCB currently have 1 goal advantage in for & against so a win will see them into 4th place

All clubs have been reminded by NNSW that they cannot run trials or recruit players before October 1st.
If they do they will face sanctions......
They have been inundated by parents complaining about clubs requiring securing deposits for next year due in the next couple of weeks.

U17 s Hamilton v Weston a draw.... Two Hamilton players sent off for arguing with the ref over a supposed obvious penalty decision. So both will be missing for next week...
Other chaos with spectators apparently as well.

Let CCB & Lamton play last game !! Would be bad if not allowed to play game as a win to CCB would put them in finals !!

all fixtures not played in the final round will be declared 0-0 draw, this was from an email sent by nnswf on friday

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

all fixtures not played in the final round will be declared 0-0 draw, this was from an email sent by nnswf on friday

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But the Lambton & CCB Game had a finals spot pending on the result in the Northern NSW Football NPL rules it states

NNSWF reserves the right to consider and determine priority where a rescheduled fixture result has a bearing on final series positions.

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Originally Posted by FMC

But the Lambton & CCB Game had a finals spot pending on the result in the Northern NSW Football NPL rules it states

NNSWF reserves the right to consider and determine priority where a rescheduled fixture result has a bearing on final series positions.

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Essentially Northern will set mid week night games to determine finals place should it have a bearing on finishes 1st to 4th. No Top 5 in NPL Youth

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Originally Posted by Newsfeed

Essentially Northern will set mid week night games to determine finals place should it have a bearing on finishes 1st to 4th. No Top 5 in NPL Youth

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Yes it will if CCB wins they go 4th on goal Dif over Lambton .

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Originally Posted by FMC

Yes it will if CCB wins they go 4th on goal Dif over Lambton .

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Tks FMC - by post was in general terms relating to all youth grades.

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Originally Posted by Newsfeed

Tks FMC - by post was in general terms relating to all youth grades.

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No worries just hope they can play the game in U17 's that is the main one !!!

Just noted that the 17s CCB v Jaffas game has been put down as a draw.....
I would be pissed if I was CCB!

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

Just noted that the 17s CCB v Jaffas game has been put down as a draw.....
I would be pissed if I was CCB!

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This is not fair to the Boys at CCB U17's they should be given the chance to play Lambton to ? Make 4th spot for semi final when it was only 3 points in it for 4th !!!!! Hope NNSWF have a change of mind & let the game be played this week .

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Originally Posted by FMC

This is not fair to the Boys at CCB U17's they should be given the chance to play Lambton to ? Make 4th spot for semi final when it was only 3 points in it for 4th !!!!! Hope NNSWF have a change of mind & let the game be played this week .

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Probably not fair..............we all like to see games played. Just that Jaffa's played the game off the field. Clubs were asked by NNSWF on friday with pending heavy rain predicted to prioritise games that effected semi final positions. Jaffa's showed no interest in moving any games, which were eventually called off, their call.

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

Probably not fair..............we all like to see games played. Just that Jaffa's played the game off the field. Clubs were asked by NNSWF on friday with pending heavy rain predicted to prioritise games that effected semi final positions. Jaffa's showed no interest in moving any games, which were eventually called off, their call.

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Lambton should have been made by NNSWF to play that game.

Shit happens, no point whinging on an unofficial forum about it.

So lambton get a washout round 1 , get to replay it for a 6pt game , azzuri gets washed out against them and doesn't get a chance to play it only getting a draw ? One meeting they had Charlestown beat them 2-1 , maybe ccb should get the three points as they already beat them this year .... What a joke

Not being able to play the final game of the season that predicts final four is a joke !! Charlestown boys deserve better !

I don't understand, they have had all year to make the four now your upset because they need to play the last game, doesn't make sence, good luck to those that got the runs on the board when required

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

I don't understand, they have had all year to make the four now your upset because they need to play the last game, doesn't make sence, good luck to those that got the runs on the board when required

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FR the solution to these issues is for you to share your wisdom with drainage solutions at grounds. The more grounds that drain better the more games played which puts an end to the arguments.

To have a comp and not have games played is a ****ing farce and Northern should be ashamed that theie elite comp for the stars of tomorrow is such a joke.

Double point round FFS How is that fair???

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Originally Posted by MFKS

FR the solution to these issues is for you to share your wisdom with drainage solutions at grounds. The more grounds that drain better the more games played which puts an end to the arguments.

To have a comp and not have games played is a ****ing farce and Northern should be ashamed that theie elite comp for the stars of tomorrow is such a joke.

Double point round FFS How is that fair???

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Exactly , lambton now have received seven points for one win , this is suppose to be elite comp .

Either all washouts have to be played , or all washouts get a draw it can't differ from round to round.

Fr I'm sure you'd be blowing up if South Cardiff were the ones that copped it, these boys trained since before Xmas, to get this thrown at them is a joke

I think people should put letters into NNSWF about all this !! Lambton should be ashamed of what they have done !! They only did it because they knew the CCB boys would win the game & go into finals !!
& I agree with Go Away if it was your son or club you would be upset as well FR !!

Talk to your committee, there the ones who ALL agreed, I repeat, ALL agreed not to do replays, as for me blowing up about semis, not a chance, I actually put forward that development teams shouldn't have semis, this I still believe

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Talk to your committee, there the ones who ALL agreed, I repeat, ALL agreed not to do replays, as for me blowing up about semis, not a chance, I actually put forward that development teams shouldn't have semis, this I still believe

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Correct & most NPL Clubs agreed no replays due to the wear and tear already imposed on their grounds in a year across the 7 grades. It all comes down to individual clubs investing some coin into their pitches and not just their 1st Grade squad. What clubs as of today still have adequate pitches? Very few....

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

I actually put forward that development teams shouldn't have semis, this I still believe

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Just clarifying this point FR.

Up to what age do you view the no semis for kids thing as being acceptable.

ie If you were dictator on this what would you decide

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

Talk to your committee, there the ones who ALL agreed, I repeat, ALL agreed not to do replays,

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Just shows how shortsighted and how much self interest there is in the committees of clubs.

Players in this country don't play enough games for their development as footballers anyway and here you have clubs showing little interest in actually playing football which after all as a FOOTBALL CLUB is their purpose and would rather have wash outs to preserve their patch of grass which in under a month won't be used for a few months anyway

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Just clarifying this point FR.

Up to what age do you view the no semis for kids thing as being acceptable.

ie If you were dictator on this what would you decide

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I see NPL youth teams as development only, no play offs at all, yes it's the Australian way to have play offs but it stops a lot of bickering about who's the best etc etc and it stops clubs from signing every tom dick and Harry for their kids teams, have games during the season and train all year round, it works in all the best academy leagues in the world , why not here

I'll agree, it's a development league for both the players, and referees. Why hasn't anyone blown up that for the elite comp, you have local referees reffing all youth NPL games and not state league refs?

Similar to how the U/17 fixture in last years NBN was refereed by non-State League referees? Non-issue really. The referees that get selected to referee these games, have generally proven themselves and their association see's potential and this is one way of testing them at a new level/setting.

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

Similar to how the U/17 fixture in last years NBN was refereed by non-State League referees? Non-issue really. The referees that get selected to referee these games, have generally proven themselves and their association see's potential and this is one way of testing them at a new level/setting.

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That's my point, it's a development league, so that shouldn't really be worried too much about finals etc.

Slightly off topic but can anyone tell me the name of the young fella from Jaffas (pretty sure he was playing 22's) who recently got a scholarship to a college in America (Philadelphia I think).

Ta.

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

I see NPL youth teams as development only, no play offs at all, yes it's the Australian way to have play offs but it stops a lot of bickering about who's the best etc etc and it stops clubs from signing every tom dick and Harry for their kids teams, have games during the season and train all year round, it works in all the best academy leagues in the world , why not here

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Don't disagree that they shouldn't be playing all year round.
To me it should be a goal of the code to encroach on the other codes seasons.

Do disagree on the lack of competition aspect to it. Life is a competition. The kids have to get used to it.

They are already shielded from it at in younger age groups by these ages it is high time they had to deal with it.

The left wing socialist everyone gets a prize crap for competing will be the death nell of this country and our proud sporting history. At younger ages the kids need to learn the skills of the game. At these ages they need to be introduced to being competitive.

It will come in handy as they get older or else we will have far too many of these social basketcases in society who can not handle anything not running their way in life

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

I don't understand, they have had all year to make the four now your upset because they need to play the last game, doesn't make sence, good luck to those that got the runs on the board when required

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Runs get put on the board over 20 games, my point is, it should be either teams get a point all year round in case of a washout, all teams get to play six point games, or semis are on hold, until all teams have played there games, especially since that last game had a bearing on the season.

Lambton were informed of impending rain by NNSW on friday, and all games with semi final aspirants were to be prioritised, they made no attempt to play or move the game, knowing NNSW would put it in too hard basket and just give each team a point, therefore getting their 17s in the semis.

Also if you took an interest in your younger teams fr, you would see that CCB were in the four all year, except some six point washouts elevated a few teams, including Lambton.

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

Runs get put on the board over 20 games, my point is, it should be either teams get a point all year round in case of a washout, all teams get to play six point games, or semis are on hold, until all teams have played there games, especially since that last game had a bearing on the season.

Lambton were informed of impending rain by NNSW on friday, and all games with semi final aspirants were to be prioritised, they made no attempt to play or move the game, knowing NNSW would put it in too hard basket and just give each team a point, therefore getting their 17s in the semis.

Also if you took an interest in your younger teams fr, you would see that CCB were in the four all year, except some six point washouts elevated a few teams, including Lambton.

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It's a new competition, new concept, there was always going to be teething problems, hopefully at our next club meeting things can be ironed our

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Originally Posted by ForeverRed

It's a new competition, new concept, there was always going to be teething problems, hopefully at our next club meeting things can be ironed our

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Yes, I see you guys have learned already and are holding trials at the same time as other clubs this year. Not after everyone else like last year. That will make a difference, also all the Lakes kids now looking for homes.
Things are changing slowly for you guys. Good luck

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

So lambton get a washout round 1 , get to replay it for a 6pt game , azzuri gets washed out against them and doesn't get a chance to play it only getting a draw ? One meeting they had Charlestown beat them 2-1 , maybe ccb should get the three points as they already beat them this year .... What a joke

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I haven't really kept up with this comp at all but if this is the case, it is a disgrace. If the fed sets a precedent on how to handle something in one case, they have to stick to their guns for every single scenario from then on.

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Originally Posted by pv4

I haven't really kept up with this comp at all but if this is the case, it is a disgrace. If the fed sets a precedent on how to handle something in one case, they have to stick to their guns for every single scenario from then on.

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Setting a precedent is one thing WLG how exactly are these double point games even remotely fair??

When the sides could be playing contrasting quality of opponents a positive result in the double points game can see a side shoot up above their rightful place and handicap another side who had an off day.

Absolute farcial

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

All clubs have been reminded by NNSW that they cannot run trials or recruit players before October 1st.
If they do they will face sanctions......
They have been inundated by parents complaining about clubs requiring securing deposits for next year due in the next couple of weeks.

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Further to this, received following in an email from NNSWF yesterday afternoon, I assume this email went to all parents of current NPL Youth player ?? They must have had quite a few enquiries for them to act.

"The Parent
National Premier Leagues – Youth Players

Northern NSW Football has been advised that a number of our National Premier Leagues clubs are charging parents a non-refundable player registration / clothing deposit to confirm their child’s place in teams competing in the 2015 National Premier Leagues – Youth.

Please be advised that this practice is not permitted by Northern NSW Football and that all National Premier Leagues clubs have been advised they cannot charge a non-refundable fee for 2015 player registrations / clothing.

Parents are encouraged to contact Northern NSW Football in the event that an National Premier Leagues club is not adhering to this directive."

I know I received a letter asking my son to stay at his club and he was happy to stay there.

Its a tough one, clubs want to secure players they want to keep and then you have parents that want to shop kids around, I presume for bigger $$$$, sorry thats my cynical side.
I dont have an issue approaching current players and wanting to secure them, but what about the poaching ??? not sure how to handle that.