So does this mean the Knights have to pay us to use the stadium or are we going back to the days of being screwed?
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So does this mean the Knights have to pay us to use the stadium or are we going back to the days of being screwed?
Nah everyone gets screwed now cause the NSW government now runs and takes all the profits from the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirt Boy
In positive news that same government is considering giving over $250m to two of the only independently operated stadiums (you know the ones where the private operator makes large sums of money on the hiring of the venues, unlike hunter & parra stadiums where the profits go to the government) in NSW to put roofs, WIFI & some more expensive suites and food outlets in, but apparently the government can't find any spare cash to put in a half decent pitch in its own venues, go figure.
What ground you referring to ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
Allianz??
Cause apparently there is some deal made when the Olympic Stadium was built that means Allianz can't be upgraded until 2020>>30 something
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/...-1226922080457Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
SFS (Allianz Stadium) & Olympic (ANZ) Stadium, both have proposed $250m approx. upgrade costs. Both Privately administered. Both return zero money to the government's NSW Venues. Meanwhile parra will not get another cent above the already approved grant, there will be no new western sydney stadium at this point & hunter stadium well just look at it, says it all really.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
All it will mean is that ANZ will get a compensation package if SFS is upgraded, I'd say the government will roll the compo and grant into one to make it look like they are getting their monies worth.
What? You mean the two new grandstands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
Were you born in 2009 mate?
Goodness me.
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One day... Maybe!!!!????
Maybe....Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
It will one day when its needed, thing is right now it's not needed neither us or the knoughts get close to 33,000 regularly. I would settle for a first class surface and a standing concourse on the southern hill in the time being.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
Edit: In a utopia I would love a brand new nice little 17-20k seater built in at the Athletics track in town.
I was referring to the continued neglect of the pitch & the proposed funding of private held stadia. Do you think its perfectly fine to go and fund these privately held stadiums (for of all things roofs, restaurants & WIFI), stadiums that are in better condition then Hunter stadium currently, stadiums that are actually complete, to the tune of $250m+ whilst the governments own stadiums can't even get repairs funded, especially leading into major events like the Asian Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
When your grassed spectator hill is in far better condition than your pitch questions should be asked about whether the SFS & Allianz are really in need of this money & why the government should be paying for the private sectors stadium upgrades, putting aside the fact its a nice flashy way of pushing the privatized power pole infrastructure the government wants passed.
If the SFS & ANZ stadiums want money they can have it with the same strings attached as what Newcastle has been lumped with, they can hand over total control to NSW Venues.
As for the two new stands we could have done without them in their current form anyway, one single tiered lower bowl was all that was necessary, how often does the place get over 24k? Instead we got this half and half stadium, with a terrible aging pitch (15 years & 2 redevelopments since any major works on it) & still poor spectator amenities (Yes improved but really demountable toilet blocks don't exactly shout "World Class Stadium" despite what the government PR machine would like us all to believe). The big push was for more modern corporate suites, well I used these suites at the last jets game, and the corporate level had nearly as many security guards as patrons & that's in addition to the empty eastern suite and the empty Hill boxes.
I hope not, Its not needed and probably won't be needed for many, many years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
All Hunter stadium needs is to replace the hills with ONE single tier stand back to about the same point as the grass hill, with a large walkway behind it to allow pedestrian flow to enter the stand from the rear and walk down. No need for these multiple levels and small stairs all over the place with sight lines obstructed by balustrades and signage.
All hunter stadium needed to be was designed as a single tier bowl...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keepmoat_Stadium
http://cms.ukintpress.com/UserFiles/...ws/2012/x1.jpg
http://stadiums.football.co.uk/Image...Large/56-1.jpg
Another Example of single tier current configuration but the ability to expand as the need arises.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_mk
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...EnglandU21.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PE7AixdrXU...CIMG3162_2.jpg
http://footballstadiums.files.wordpr...-panorama2.jpg
An example of how you start with a solid single tier then expand in sections as necessary
http://stadiumdb.com/img/news/2014/03/30ccfc2.jpg
http://stadiumdb.com/img/news/2014/03/30ccfc4.jpg
http://stadiumdb.com/img/news/2014/03/30ccfc5.jpg
http://stadiumdb.com/img/news/2014/03/30ccfc3.jpg
NSW venues can change/fix the field whenever they want. Nothing is stopping them........oh except the fact everyone wants someone else to pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
Trouble is (and the counter to your argument) is the Hunter Stadium is a monopoly so therefore we get what we are given. Olympic and SFS are continually competing (and providing for many many more events than Hunter Stadium) so therefore they always have leverage against each other for attention.
I've got no prob with your glass have empty approach but geez we aren't doing too bad.
Oh, sorry cuz. I just re-read your post. Now I get where you're coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico
We probably can't continue our conversation.
Good luck with it all though.
Solidarity forever huh.
If the government insists on owning and managing the venues through NSW Venues then surely its their responsibility to pay for the on going maintenance, or should the leasee now pay for fixing the governments pitch for them? Would seem a little backwards to me that private sector pays for critical repairs to government owned venues while the government pays for private operated venues to have luxury expansion's.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I have no idea what this is all about.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
No surprise that the FFA is not saying much at the moment, apart from their same standard HSG statement. Hopefully they have a back up plan in case he walks.Quote:
Tinkler's dramas at the Knights have raised fears that similar problems could occur with the other sporting club he owns in the region, the Newcastle Jets.
“FFA has discussed the situation with the Newcastle Jets management this week and we have been given an update on the club’s off-season plans," said an FFA spokesperson.
“The Jets are planning their 2014/15 roster under a new head coach Phil Stubbins and the club is well-advanced with the membership campaign for Season 10.
"However, FFA is not in a position to comment about Hunter Sports Group’s business interests and dealings outside of football.
“FFA can reaffirm its commitment to Newcastle’s place in the Hyundai A-League for Season 10 and beyond.”
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz32fm4UiwW
So tinks is even going to keep pouring money in once he leaves, what a top bloke. Interesting that he can just nominate one of his companies at a later date probably wants to avoid another hunter ports repeat.Quote:
Despite the acrimonious split, Nathan Tinkler leaves Knights with $5m sponsorship gift
BARRY TOOHEY
THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
MAY 25, 2014 12:00AM
THE party might have ended for Nathan Tinkler at the Newcastle Knights but it hasn’t stopped him leaving behind a farewell gift — a $5 million sponsorship.
It’s understood the deal, worth $1 million a year over five years, was negotiated and agreed on between Tinkler’s Hunter Sports Group and the NRL during the handover process last week.
HSG CEO Troy Palmer confirmed the figure on Saturday during an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, claiming that while Tinkler has relinquished his ownership of the Knights and will have no future role in running the club, he still wants the Knights to prosper.
“Just because he is going doesn’t mean he is any less a supporter of the club,” Palmer said.
“Like everyone in Newcastle, he wants to see the club do well and still wants to do his bit to help make that happen.
“Contrary to what some people seem to think, he is willing to step up when others don’t.”
Palmer said the sponsorship will be attributed to a company of Tinkler’s choosing when the time comes.
Tinkler’s act of goodwill may be looked apon with scepticism by his many critics who are happy to see the back of him but Palmer said the sponsorship offer is genuine and has been agreed to by the NRL.
While speculation continues to swirl around about the state of the Knights books and just how much debt the club has accumulated over the three years since Tinkler was in charge, Palmer is adamant it is less than the $10.52 million the Knights currently have sitting in a bank account.
He scoffed at rumours of debts approaching $20 million and significantly, claimed HSG will meet all their financial obligations.
“The total debts of the club are considerably less than the $10.52 million term deposit,” he said.
“HSG will take responsibility for all liabilities.”
That will be music to the ears of Wests Group management, who are being courted by the NRL to play a big role in back-rolling the Knights going forward following Tinkler’s departure.
It’s understood Wests are interested but understandably, won’t get involved if they are asked to cover existing debt.
Meanwhile, the future of coach Wayne Bennett and his staff remains clouded although suggestions all their contracts are now null and void because they are with HSG and not with the Knights is a fallacy according to Palmer.
“Wayne and all his staff are contracted to the Newcastle Knights and always have been,” Palmer said.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/...s-over/?cs=303
Tinks confirms he's trying to sell the jets.
He does? That link takes me to Griffo re-signing from last month