Dodgy dodgy dodgy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
I look forward to attending my local club to vote.
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Dodgy dodgy dodgy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
I look forward to attending my local club to vote.
Why would you vote no? There is no benefit from voting no and like or not Newcastle needs to Knights, Their fans have had it worse then we have had I reckon and the Knights deserve the chance to start fresh like we are doing with Mr LeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
What do you mean they have it worse??Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
They may have had 3 shit years on the trot but dont forget they made the playoffs in the last 5 years and got some wins and made it to a GF qualifier
At least their fans had the dream of winning it all
When the **** have we even got close to making the ****ing semis seriously???
Theve been shit for longer then that. Bennet had one fluke season. Not to mention theve won like 3 games in 3 seasons or something like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Because of the title of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
I have no time for the Knights, their moronic old fans, their drug culture, their "we own this city" attitude, their "we wuz robbed" whining when they lose and their inability to sort themselves out without saying they were wrong. And because of them we lost our colours.
Wests can do better - I would vote "yes" for an entirely new NRL franchise in Newcastle. The old one has too much baggage.
The only people that go to Wests are fat chicks and blokes to lazy to have a wank.
Harsh but fairQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Or people that want cheap drinks without all the gronks you meet in townQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
You don't have fridge in the caravan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Need to bring back grab a granny downstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Actually what needs to come back at West's is what they used to have at the joint in town when it was the Workers Club in the 90s on a Saturday nightQuote:
Originally Posted by skippy
World's Biggest Disco
Or the jump club
Everyone got a start in there
So, reading the Herald this morning you can vote no, but how they decide the result is clear as mud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
* You must attend a club to vote personally and must live in the region (that's over half the members gone already).
* Knights fans can vote if they stump up $12 on the day to join.
* There is no members forum or debate beforehand (remember the Hunter Mariners rallies?)
* There is no set percentage for a result - that will be decided AFTER the vote is in and depends on the numbers
* Yet to decide what a "non-vote" means!
Sounds like a Jets job....bizarrely Wests look like they want to push this though quietly. Can see it getting up 3000 to 2000 and 90,000 members not voting.
How will Wests taking over the Knights affect the Jets with respect to the stadium ?
Shouldn't matter - both clubs are tenants of the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
That's the bit that worries me.Quote:
* There is no set percentage for a result - that will be decided AFTER the vote is in and depends on the numbers
I did vote "Yes", despite thinking I was going to vote "No". My logic was that though I'm not a fan at all of the sport, it makes their fans happy going and watching the team. If it were the Jets in this position, I'd want people to vote Yes because I think Wests will make them a success.
Yes - you're right. It would depend on the terms of the contract each party has for the rental.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
But isn't the public vote just an indicator of whether the club 'should' be interested or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
I was under the impression if the board gives it the ok then it goes ahead.
They have the power to just approve it. I think the vote is just a consultation exercise - which doesn't mean consensus and they can do what they want regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Yeah that's what I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Such a cowardly process.
People love having the name tags and title on the resume but the second it comes to making a big decision with consequences on all sides they all of a sudden don't wanna be the boss anymore.
Did someone say plebiscite?
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by Macca
You got the first four letters right for them..Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
But purchasing the NRL side isn't really the core business of West'sQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
It a loss making activity
If they going to do it for public goodwill etc
At least run it past the members
That way they can't say they weren't consulted
Man oh man you got so much wrong in such a short space good job good effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
On another note I actually went to the Knights game on the weekend.
Hadn't been to a game in years.
Just under 12k there.
Man o man have things changed. Nothing like I remember it as a kid.
For better or for worse? I think the last game I went to was prior to my wedding - so I'd say around 6 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Ive been to few at least the Knights players make up for lack of quality and skill with massive efforts every week. The Jerks could learn a few thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Atmosphere was way worse. Maybe it was crowd numbers, maybe it's the acoustics in the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
The pre match stuff is just that same dude as the Jets shouting nonsense and they played terrible music over the PA during breaks which was a really poor attempt at an NFL type hype thing but was so poorly executed it wasn't funny.
However as Stanny said whenever the players got stuck in the crowd immediately responded. They celebrated scoring and obviously the win. Small things like Gagai hi fiving kids while running up the tunnel had people (mostly kids) amped up.
Oh and I know there's a section on here that always hated the NEWCASTLE chant, but man it got everyone involved every time it sparked up.
this is probably as low as the Knights will get yet we left there pretty happy they won. I was certainly pretty proud seeing those dudes get a win after everything they've been through.
The chance for the Jets to recapture what they had is also there, but they are still way behind the Knights in terms of community connection.
Also of note 1 kid and 1 manchild ticket in the western stand was over $70 I think. I find it interesting the NRL ticket prices don't ever 'seem' to matter. I know the Jets have always promoted the value of their tickets but maybe again, win some damn games and the rest will take care of itself.
That being said the walk up prices to HEAL games though are obscene reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
To watch the Jets on the road some of the prices you pay I just cringe when I see it
We getting arse raped in the park anyway so being charged top dollar to see it is adding insult to injury
No I got it spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
It just good PR on the boards side to run it past the moron members so it all sweet when shit turns sour and the Knights are deemed a basket case that even West's can't make work
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
OK, lets go through it.
Wests was literally set up to promote and fund the growth and administration of Rugby League in the Hunter. Thats their own words. Also, from Wests point of view there is no 'purchase', its a 'takeover'. Those are two very very different terms. Also, the Wests group propaganda on the takeover states that they believe the increase in NRL funding kicking in from next year will see the Knights immediately break even at an operational level, and thats without any projected revenue increases from sponsorship, gate takings etc.Quote:
But purchasing the NRL side isn't really the core business of West's
Ok, so as a Leagues Club Wests cant 'make' money. Any profit earned has to be reinvested in the community. Wests original aim being Rugby League means it would make sense to invest that profit into a rugby league team. So any dollar made form their 'money making ventures' be it pokies gym or restaurants HAS to then be sent to a 'loss making' venture in order to balance the books. Wests is literally involved in dozens of 'loss making' ventures.Quote:
It a loss making activity
The process is that the board has to rubber stamp it, then it gets voted on by the members. Any major decision from the board HAS to be ratified. So they HAVE to consult (like they did paying $15m on the Workers club, or the $6m they are contemplating bailing out Belmont Sporties for......oh hang on is that Wests dealing with a loss making venture say it aint so). This idea of 'get the members to vote' then 'go to the board' then 'get the members to vote' is unecessary and a cop out.Quote:
If they going to do it for public goodwill etc
At least run it past the members
That way they can't say they weren't consulted
that was my point.
and it was right.
and you, once again, are terribly wrong.
good day.
Craig Izzard, former rugby league player, now corrupt illegal dumping official
just when you were wondering what crime an NRL player would get charged with next
13,000 out of 120,000 Wests members voted.
Once the Knights Nannas and their ilk were allowed to join for a day and vote it was pretty pointless. The rest couldn't be arsed.
To only allow the vote to happen for 1 week and voting to ONLY occur in person at the club was rather limiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
93% is lower than I expected. But as has been said, it was just an exercise to say they "consulted the opinion of fans" and no percentage determined to say whether it would/wouldn't proceed. They were always going to go ahead, and I suspect this also contributed to the low numbers.
I wonder if their colours will be changed...
It was obvious after day one and all the fanfare that this was going through - I couldn't be bothered driving 40kms during the work week to vote tbh.Quote:
They were always going to go ahead, and I suspect this also contributed to the low numbers.
Had the vote been 93% against they would have then called on the fact that most didn't vote.
bring back the little horses in the sports bar you spineless cowards
THIS x 1000!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
And the odds wheel. Used to love the guys that would sit there and write down the order trying to identify a pattern :rof:
Celebrating a win as your horse bolts 6 lengths clear only to have it stop 2 inches from the line and get swamped by the field was a rite of passage for all Newy youth.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
No coincidence that since the horses were taken away terrorist attacks have skyrocketed.
Top story on FoxSport is "the real reason why tallis bashed Ross".
I'm sorry, but isn't that considered assault? It comes a cross as a pre-meditated act to assault a persob.