SQUAD FOR 2015/16 SEASON - no Griff, no party

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Originally Posted by BodyNovo

we may as well have kept chilli, if we are going to sign ramsay & danning

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Danning never really recovered from his knee injury at Sydney, and was only effective there due to raw pace.

At least Ramsay has a decent cross on him and doesn't rely solely on pace.

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Originally Posted by RAM

Don't think he has the touch to play centrally.

I'd prefer Alivodic to slot into no. 10 - seems to have the ability to play there.

Re the discussion of Ramsay - Miller may be looking at playing an inverted winger on the right. Who knows. He hasn't said much.

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Alivodic played centrally in a few of the videos we saw before he signed... I think both up front and in behind. Cooper needs to own that position this year though and with no senior options out wide, I think Alivodic will probably be used out there regularly... unless of course, as you say, Miller is moving away from our regular 4-3-3 or variations of.

I would have thought Lundy on the left and Carney on the right (if Alivodic is central) or Alivodic/Carney would be the preferred option. As someone said, maybe he's being looked at as a 3rd/4th choice winger and a backup to Leaky G as left back? Sigh :(

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Originally Posted by RAM

Carney is just a major liability in my opinion.

No speed, no fitness, just off the pace in general.

Yes his touch and vision are better than most in our squad, but given his wages he is simply a liability that needs to be cut.

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I don't know if the under Stubbins Carney is the Carney that will be here this season. I hope not. Definitely agree that for the coin he is getting though, he should an absolute star of a player and I don't think he's capable of that. I live on in hope though.

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Alivodic played centrally in a few of the videos we saw before he signed... I think both up front and in behind. Cooper needs to own that position this year though and with no senior options out wide, I think Alivodic will probably be used out there regularly... unless of course, as you say, Miller is moving away from our regular 4-3-3 or variations of.

I would have thought Lundy on the left and Carney on the right (if Alivodic is central) or Alivodic/Carney would be the preferred option. As someone said, maybe he's being looked at as a 3rd/4th choice winger and a backup to Leaky G as left back? Sigh :(



I don't know if the under Stubbins Carney is the Carney that will be here this season. I hope not. Definitely agree that for the coin he is getting though, he should an absolute star of a player and I don't think he's capable of that. I live on in hope though.

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Would seem to be too many wingers in the squad if Ramsay or Danning come in.

Miller must be thinking of turning some into backs. Carney would be a very expensive LB.

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Originally Posted by RAM

Carney is just a major liability in my opinion.

No speed, no fitness, just off the pace in general.

Yes his touch and vision are better than most in our squad, but given his wages he is simply a liability that needs to be cut.

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Please don't think i'm saying Carney would excel through the middle, i just think with the balance of players we have and the available money it will inevitably happen.

Being a filthy Carny he could probably do a job selling deep fried pies on the drinking hill? He can earn some of his gigantic wages back for the club??

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Originally Posted by RAM

Would seem to be too many wingers in the squad if Ramsay or Danning come in.

Miller must be thinking of turning some into backs. Carney would be a very expensive LB.

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Carney would be very expensive in any position though... and given I still hate his guts for losing his player at the Asian Cup, if he plays left back I might really jump ship to supporting the best left back in the league.

I hope Cyc10n is right though and they are slim (preferably none) chances of signing.

Maybe miller is looking at a 3-4-3 with 5 at the back in defence. Hence the need for so many wingers.

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Originally Posted by Frodo

Being a filthy Carny he could probably do a job selling deep fried pies on the drinking hill? He can earn some of his gigantic wages back for the club??

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Spot on, Mr Baggins..

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Originally Posted by Frodo

Please don't think i'm saying Carney would excel through the middle, i just think with the balance of players we have and the available money it will inevitably happen.

Being a filthy Carny he could probably do a job selling deep fried pies on the drinking hill? He can earn some of his gigantic wages back for the club??

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Hard to believe we pay a bloke that kind of wage when he played 16 games in the previous 4-5 seasons before signing with us. :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Bon

Spot on, Mr Baggins..

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What is Carney's best position, Bon? Do you know anyone that could give us some insight?

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Originally Posted by Grimario

What is Carney's best position, Bon? Do you know anyone that could give us some insight?

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Nah, I don't know anyone anymore.. Cheers for the reminder though..

I would like to see us sign a quality foreign 6 and 9 to slot into the first team. If the salary cap stretched to a 10 as well then great, if not would be happy to throw Nick Carle a lifeline to support Cooper. Had heard Nicky had agreed to sign on under Stubbins but not sure now.

Leave Alivodic and Carney to play in their best positions out wide if we are to get any value for money out of them. Carney we can only pray gets his Chinese deal prior to the season start

I'm a big fan of Carney and think he adds a lot to the team. Him and Flores worked really well together last year, in the circumstances. I think he'll be one of our most important players.

Alivodić I don't see playing anywhere but RM or as a pacey second striker.

The one unattached Australian player I would love if we made a serious play for is Dario Vidosic

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Originally Posted by borat

The one unattached Australian player I would love if we made a serious play for is Dario Vidosic

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Is he available?

Sign him up!!!

rado is going to melbourne as assistant, dario would follow you'd assume

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Is he available?

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Looks like it, doesn't appear on the current FC Sion roster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Sion#Current_squad

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Originally Posted by q-money

rado is going to melbourne as assistant, dario would follow you'd assume

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I can't imagine Victory have the salary cap space for Dario, or arguably any other player. I guess they do have the Australian marquee spot open though.

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Originally Posted by pv4

I can't imagine Victory have the salary cap space for Dario, or arguably any other player. I guess they do have the Australian marquee spot open though.

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And with Finkler, FBK, Pain, Archie, Besart and Kosta all vying for those attacking spots... would seem like an odd signing.

They apparently only have 17 players on their books as well...

if the ayatollah can't have it, no-one can

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Originally Posted by borat

The one unattached Australian player I would love if we made a serious play for is Dario Vidosic

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No love for Scott McDonald? Juric?

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Originally Posted by Grimario

No love for Scott McDonald? Juric?

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Tommy is an interesting one. Links to any club have gone quiet with him recently. I think McDonald signed up for his Scottish team again, as well.

At least the Jason Hoffman links have stopped of late.

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Originally Posted by RAM

Carney is just a major liability in my opinion.

No speed, no fitness, just off the pace in general.

Yes his touch and vision are better than most in our squad, but given his wages he is simply a liability that needs to be cut.

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First thing you've said I can whole-heartedly get behind. Here here

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Tommy is an interesting one. Links to any club have gone quiet with him recently. I think McDonald signed up for his Scottish team again, as well.

At least the Jason Hoffman links have stopped of late.

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Last I read it was still only a maybe... and with them signing Lewis Moult, he may find himself down the pecking order.

In the same interview I read, he said he had unfinished business in England, so I don't expect he would be in the HAL unless as marquee on big money.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Tommy is an interesting one. Links to any club have gone quiet with him recently. I think McDonald signed up for his Scottish team again, as well.

At least the Jason Hoffman links have stopped of late.

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Tomi is apparently in talks with Legia Warsaw as of a few days ago

I'm not seeing any article saying Dario Vidosic has left Sion FC. Having a look on football websites he's still listed as a player on their books

Pretty sure he's waiting to be offered a contract for next season. Even if he isn't resigned i'm pretty certain his preference is to remain in Europe.

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Originally Posted by q-money

if the ayatollah can't have it, no-one can

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Originally Posted by Grimario

No love for Scott McDonald? Juric?

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McDonald http://www.footballanarchy.net/forum...miley_sick.gif

Juric would want more coin than he's worth.

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Originally Posted by RAM

McDonald http://www.footballanarchy.net/forum...miley_sick.gif

Juric would want more coin than he's worth.

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Says the guy who thinks Ramsay would be a good signing on the right coin ;)

5 in 11 starts for Motherwell last season. His time at Millwall was awful but he was a double figures a season at Boro and obviously his time at Celtic was amazing (albeit half a lifetime ago).

He would tear it up here, just build a style of play around him instead of like his Socceroos career was, expecting him to be Cahill or Kennedy or Viduka.

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Says the guy who thinks Ramsay would be a good signing on the right coin ;)

5 in 11 starts for Motherwell last season. His time at Millwall was awful but he was a double figures a season at Boro and obviously his time at Celtic was amazing (albeit half a lifetime ago).

He would tear it up here, just build a style of play around him instead of like his Socceroos career was, expecting him to be Cahill or Kennedy or Viduka.

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On the right coin, McDonald might be ok - but he'll want marquee wages.

He's nothing special, just a poacher who's past his prime. Don't know how you build a squad around a poacher. Long balls into the box? We can already do that. :rof:

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Says the guy who thinks Ramsay would be a good signing on the right coin ;)

5 in 11 starts for Motherwell last season. His time at Millwall was awful but he was a double figures a season at Boro and obviously his time at Celtic was amazing (albeit half a lifetime ago).

He would tear it up here, just build a style of play around him instead of like his Socceroos career was, expecting him to be Cahill or Kennedy or Viduka.

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Mac + Cabbage hands + Ali V would = goals.
Cooper/Barresi to do all the running behind the front 3 and then just need a solid holding midfielder to lead Pepper/Kanta around the park. Then fill the rest of the spots with anyone on minimum coin until next season.

Surely we should look to Rostyn Griffiths for that holding role. Could do the job of kanta and pepper combined. I know all the fuss about being a coastie etc but the guy is a beast.

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Originally Posted by Frodo

Mac + Cabbage hands + Ali V would = goals.
Cooper/Barresi to do all the running behind the front 3 and then just need a solid holding midfielder to lead Pepper/Kanta around the park. Then fill the rest of the spots with anyone on minimum coin until next season.

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Birraz/BK

? Mullen Boogard Lee

Kanta ?

Carney Cooper Alivodic

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Essentially we don't have a RB, CM and ST. Cowburn is the obvious fix at RB though so we can sort that out no problems.

I'm also hopeful that Kanta can have a breakout year and finally shows off his full potential, cause it's really now or never for him. If he can't perform to the standards of how much he's getting paid he either will have to take a drop in coin or get moved on elsewhere

Also, Pepper is at WSW now

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

Surely we should look to Rostyn Griffiths for that holding role. Could do the job of kanta and pepper combined. I know all the fuss about being a coastie etc but the guy is a beast.

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Originally Posted by Wilso8948

Surely we should look to Rostyn Griffiths for that holding role. Could do the job of kanta and pepper combined. I know all the fuss about being a coastie etc but the guy is a beast.

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I reckon he will end up at Victory as a replacement for Milligan.

Hopefully Miller doesn't wait till a few weeks out of the start of the season to finalise the squad, would be good to see the squad finalised ASAP so the team has a good preseason and plenty of time to gel, would love to see us sign a marquee but think it's wishful thinking

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Originally Posted by Cyc10n

Hopefully Miller doesn't wait till a few weeks out of the start of the season to finalise the squad, would be good to see the squad finalised ASAP so the team has a good preseason and plenty of time to gel, would love to see us sign a marquee but think it's wishful thinking

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I think club ownership will decide anything like marquee. Don't think FFA will stump up for a marquee but if Thomson/consortium/etc are keen for the idea, who knows?

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Originally Posted by Grimario

I think club ownership will decide anything like marquee. Don't think FFA will stump up for a marquee but if Thomson/consortium/etc are keen for the idea, who knows?

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I'm not 100% sold on Thompson I know he has knowledge of football and running a club, I'd like someone with more money but in saying that we had that with tinkler when he first took over and we never looked like winning the title under his ownership so who knows... We NEED to sign Griffiths even if it's a player/striker coach role I don't care as long as he has a role at this club...

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Originally Posted by Mark325

Also, Pepper is at WSW now

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Oops, Blonde moment. I knew that, obviously can't deal with it yet... Man we really need to find some Midfield re-enforcement's.
Griffiths would be good, Victory probably can't fit him in. So we might be in with a chance if we throw decent coin at him.



I was having a think before. We have approx $800k left, according to some reports.
1 x decent striker = $200-300k
1 x decent mid = $150-250k
that leaves let's say 300-400k to sign a RB and maybe 2 more mids, all on $70-100k (avg HAL quality)

add in 2 more youth players from NNSWPL and we aren't too far off a first team and a mediocre but full bench.

Please correct all the inaccuracies i have probably made.

What is our squad count at now?

And how many of them would we call 'starters'?