https://twitter.com/nbnnews/status/851277519781216257
Reporter - "Will Mark Jones be here next season?".
McKinna - "It's too early to tell. He has a 2 year contract".
The kiss of death, Jones is #gone
Enjoy the pissant town that is Adelaide.
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https://twitter.com/nbnnews/status/851277519781216257
Reporter - "Will Mark Jones be here next season?".
McKinna - "It's too early to tell. He has a 2 year contract".
The kiss of death, Jones is #gone
Enjoy the pissant town that is Adelaide.
When did he get a two year deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
23/9/2016 when he was appointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
He is contracted until the end of next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
But when asked if he will still be here next season the first thing Lawrie said is "it's too early to tell".
The kiss of death, from his own mate. The scenes!
Yeah, thats how I took that..Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
And we all know Mr Lee has no problems sacking coaches
He has only sacked One coach the entire time he has owned us!Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Or
He has sacked 50% of coaches we've had within their first year?
Or
He has sacked every single coach named Scott within the first few months of meeting them?
Any other tedious links you want to make? LOL
I am hoping McKinna is unsure because he doesn't even know if his own job is safe. Every single member of staff and player should be on notice today that people will not be here next season. Send down some independent guys to interview everyone ("Office Space" Style) and find better replacements.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
If you haven't seen the movie do yourself a favour. You will thank me.
How much time you got?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
OK so there's lots of hypotetical statements/wishes/demands going around at the moment. All of these have the assumtption Mr Lee doesn't mind throwing his cash around willy-nilly - which I highly doubt is the truth.
I've got the sense the majority here want Jones, Boogaard, Kokko and to some extent Brown paid off from their remaining 1 and 2 (Brown) year deals. That all costs money.
Would you all pay out Jones, Zane, VanStratten, Boogaard, Kokko, Brown or "players" if it was at the expense of a marquee player and recruiting players outside of the cap? Because a new coach like Mulvey or Merrick (examples of names put up) it is reasonable to assume are going to be demading a much higher wage than Jones. Lee is a businessman and will have allocated a budget to the Jets. How are we going to spend that cash??
Where do people lie?
I've seen this clip before:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuu9CpdjIo
And then on the other end of the whole Business Management Consultant spectrum, I've also seen Peep Show's (sup Bon) take on that profession:Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkELicRkq1I
Johnson, smooth as fvck.. hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
I was thinking more along this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdJkMqmyPo
Is this what we want or what we think will happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
What i want is McKinna gone more than anyone else.
What i think will happen is Lee won't do anything major until we stop being a pretty toy to show off to his investors. He only owns us so he can show us off as a part of his empire. We can't be relegated and the teams salary is capped, why would he want to spend money on us if he doesn't have to?
What kid parades his second-hand rusty bike with one pedal & no handle bars to the other kids? This is the bit I don't get when people say Lee isn't interested in winning, only showing off the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
I agree If the Jets fail it will be a blemish on Mr Lee's business portfolio and people may question his commitment to his business endeavors. Time will tell how serious he is about the Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
I think the question is: Why did Mr Lee buy the club?...... To sell lights in Australia? (Except the Member who bought a Ledman light, who else has?).... To sell lights in China?...THEN he needs Jets to be A-League winners and to achieved that / or at least go to ACL HE knows for sure he will have to spend big $$$$$..... If not what's the point to run at a loss the Jerks.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
We think we are rubbish but i'm sure Chinese investors don't follow the HAL.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
You name me one football club owner that owns their club for reasons other than showing off? If you think people buy football clubs only because they are 'passionate about the fans' you my friend are delusional.
I'm sure 98% of owners world-wide want their fans to be happy but not as the expense of good business. Lee wouldn't know if we are unhappy right now anyway. He has 8000 members on the books which is about average for this league and we aren't getting relegated.
Quite happy to be proven wrong but everything he has done so far has been using us as a pawn in a bigger game he is playing. Nothing has been to solely benefit us.
He could make us a club that covers it's own costs pretty easily. The bills in this league aren't that big, and he could get enough sponsorship/shirt sales/members to break even.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
Yet again, happy to be proven wrong i just haven't seen any signs showing me otherwise yet.
Whats VanStratten done wrong? Thought he has down well with Duncan this season and last season has did well with Birraz. If you were gonna sack coaches surely then the chinese assistant coach gets the sack to, does he even do anything at the club?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
The two coaches should be the first to go and then whoever is bought in as new coach can have the final say with regards to support staff.
Yes, i understand that he needs us to show up to games to acheive that, but i don't think he would have any indicators to show him that we won't be here next season. We've won spoons before and still had 10,000 members.
Roman Abramovic He loves football and does anything he can to help Chelsea win. Sure he's sacked plenty of coaches made some harsh decisions but he wants to win. Hell he's spending money to help us build our new ground. Hell he attends nearly every game, goes into the sheds after games to celebrate with the players, attends training and recently has had several lunches with Conte to learn more about football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
You attend training dont you?? what input do Zane and the Chinese bloke have?Quote:
Originally Posted by evanhayes5
His name is there because he's part of the current staff. I doubt Rocky will be let go simply because of his association with Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by evanhayes5
And still, nobody answers my original question. Too busy picking holes in what I've written.
Interesting question. I think its to sell product in China. Australia, with 3 ACL spots from 9 teams, represents the easiest route thereQuote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
Cheap a**holes at ffa sold him a dream, he bought a pile of sh1t.Quote:
Originally Posted by lquiquer
ffa laughing at Newy suckers and taking ezy china cash.
To me the way forward is still slowlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
We have that many ****ing problems there is no magic fix
First up it is gutting our squad.
We will obviously free up spots with blokes being released but we need to get creative and **** off a few more.
As for our coaching department.
We need to increase the pool anyway so why sack anyone nd then just wait for natural attrition as contracts run out
FFS we are taking over the EJ so put Zane in charge of the 13s
As for marquees no needed
Let's just get our squad sorted slowly with blokes who have guts and ability
Paying Jones out??
For what.
We need someone to gut this club from the inside anyway. You ****s already hate him.
Let him do the job
Fix the rest of the shit around him and when the time is right he will go anyway
I just spotted again your signature Member......
"I am the light of the world,
He who followeth me shall not walk in darkness
But have the light of LIFE"........... Did Mr Lee originally say that? :lulzturtle:
So another season where Jones plays people out of position and freezes others out of the team. Not to mention no one wants to play for a coach who led a team to the spoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
You're either trolling with your jones love which in that case mission accomplished but If you actually belive what your typing, I gotta ask what the **** have you been watching the past few weeks. Before you bang on about the good football a few months back. That was all through Nabbout and Hoole not being found out. Now their found out Jones didn't have a plan B or C and something has happened and he has lost the dressing room.
Unless Lee sacks the whole playing group theirs No way Jones can stay and maybe be successful if half of the players he lost are still at the club
Yeh watch quite a few sessions in the week cause of uni, Chinese guy 0 input, Van Stratten takes the keepers (obvs) and then when keepers are involved he also is in the main session.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Zane takes a lot of drills as well and also stops and gives feed back to players when he feels necessary. To what input they have with team selections I dont know
Does Jones do anything then lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by evanhayes5
You do understand that blokes like Conte Mourinho etc don't take every session at training??Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
It what the other coaches do
You do realise next season Jones is in charge he has 12-14 players that he wants ??Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
You think our current form continues??
You think we not going to do a lot of hard work in pre season to improve??
You think the left over players are going to be sulking or busting their arse to earn their spots??
No
Jones will just carry on and every thing will stay same
FMD
You completely missed the mark. My point was why show off a football club that isn't winning games and lifting trophies? Has nought to do with the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Jones' only big move this year was re-signing Brown. Your move MFKS.
I got nothing to say to that other than it was a shit move thatQuote:
Originally Posted by steve136
Wait, what did that Mulvey dude do wrong?
Didn't he win the comp then get rissoled?
I wouldn't pay out Boogaard, Brown or VanStratten. Jones yes. Zane would be left up to the new coach to decide. Kokko is someone I would try hard to offload off his own bat. If they can agree to a mutual termination, which I think is possible, win-win. Boogaard is hardly the best CB in the league, but he's definitely not the worst. With more settled & solid fullbacks and midfield in front, he's good enough to do a job for now and get us partly up the table. There's also enough squad spaces open that we can vastly improve the squad and still utilise players like Brown who I think has more to offer under better circumstances. Our club needs a marquee and some players outside the cap, it's the only way we're going to attract decent players. I've said it before, but if a quality import is offered 200k in Melbourne, and 200k here, where do you think he's going? Even 250k to come here against Melbourne's 200k probably isn't enough. Until we're an attractive option, we have to pay overs, or rely on an impressive scouting network to unearth gems. The latter we all know is a pipe dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Firstly, you are absolutely on crack if you think Roman bought Chelsea because he wants the city to have a wonderful football club. He is a powerful Russian businessman who spend his money keeping his mate Putin in power. He was one of the biggest Russian names to come out and start showing Russians as 'modern business men' but he is just a face of an ogliarchy doing very well for itself. He bought your club as a strategic move to bring himself notoriety and status. Which is the same as Usmanov wants to do at Arsenal. Kroenke only owns us because we are a piece in his portfolio. Same as the Glaziers, Fenway Sports, Shiek Mansour and most of the other club owners. It builds their status in their own country and increases their bargaining power.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
That doesn't mean they don't want that business to succeed, of course they do. As does Mr Lee. I'm just saying that at this stage we are succeeding so why would he want to throw millions at us? Which is what is going to cost long-term to fix every problem that we have.
I'm with the member when he says we need to take it slowly and fix this club from the top to the bottom, or bottom to top, or East to West or whatever order it happens in. Paying Jones out just starts a new problem that will hit us again in 12 months. If Lee sorts out the backroom a bit better, and probably cleans out the top end of the squad then a new manager right now makes sense. But just changing manager by itself won't fix the problem long-term.
I'm keen to hear about Mulvey too. I thought he got sacked at the start of all that turmoil Brisbane had with their owners not paying and all the rest of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague