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I just don’t think promotion and relegation should happen this year due to the circumstances.
The only exception would be if there were clubs voluntarily wanting to do go down a division due to players numbers or something which has happened in the past.
Is that similar to not being able to field 3 grades week in, week out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Well yes, maybe if you are forfeiting games, you are probably more deserving of being relegated than a club who gets three grades out every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
Let's relegate Swansea then and save everyone the trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Different circumstances (to a degree) to last year but last year there was no promotion/relegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
Both interrupted by COVID and last season premiers were named, but relegation and promotion didn't take place.
It will be interesting to see what the association decides, and someone will blow up either way.
I guess with last year, it was known at the start of the season that promotion/relegation was off the table due to the fact a number of teams had pulled out and in the lower two comps they were combined. But this year everyone went into the season with the understanding it would be in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by idontwannaplaywithhowey
But I do agree no matter what way they lean someone will be upset.
I think the relegated club would be more upset. None of the divisions had a guaranteed premier in first grade and none had a guaranteed last place finisher either.Quote:
Originally Posted by onlooker
Barnsley in ZL1 (lbottom by 5 points) and Lake Mac in ZL3 (First by 7 points) are the only ones that would be fair enough to be relegated or promoted.
All the other divisions, battle for first and last place are all separated by 1 or 2 points.
I don’t disagree it would be rough to actually relegate anyone this season considering how close it was at the bottom. I was only bringing it up as they could easily use that as an excuse to relegate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
In the end I think the only grade a decision needs to be made on is ZPL to ZL1. ( unless someone has been struggling to field all grades.)
ZL1 only has 9 so don’t relegate anyone just add 1st from ZL2 to fill the numbers to 10 then promote 1st in ZL3 to fill the numbers in 2’s. That would keep most happy I guess..
Not often someone from Dudley will side with someone from the Suns but I do here. I think it’s very stiff for a team to be relegated with them not having the opportunity to play everyone twice. The team last may have played all the harder sides and the last 2 were softer games than second last. Comp wasn’t completed so relegation should be off the tableQuote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Nah.
Cookers, last, played the other bottom 3 teams twice.
Lost both to Wbay, lost both to Kotara, lost 1 won 1 v bero but lost of goal diff.
Send Cookers down and forget the sob story
ahahaha see ya!Quote:
Originally Posted by Negative Police
cry time?Quote:
Originally Posted by MisplacedPasses
Cookers will be ok. They are all about NPL now.
Curious, what happens with the other clubs who pay their players? Do they get paid out for the rest of the season anyways or do payments stop? Can someone from the Suns or Bero let us know?
You trying to work out what to do about Dudley's player payments mate?? Don't ask anyone from the sun$ they've never paid a player, ever!Quote:
Originally Posted by gtg
covid payments to take over game payments
Even with no football played, everyone in lockdown there's still hate being thrown around. Absolute snorefest.
As someone from Dudley I dislike the Suns as much as the next bloke but they pay a few regos like a few clubs do. It’s like 2yr old news. Let’s freshen it upQuote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Any coaching or player moves. Any truth to Alex Kantarovski joining the Suns
Surely he'd be just playing for the shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
You can think what you want mate. I find all your posts entertaining, so please keep up the great work.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisplacedPasses
Kanta has hardly played at all over the last few years. He is good mates with plenty of us boys at the Suns. No matter where he chooses to play his football, all he will be worried about is actually playing, not money. Poor bloke has had a horrible run of injuries and playing games will be his first priority. He's still more than capable to earn a buck at NPL level if that's what his preference is.
Kantarovski will not be joining the suns I can 100% tell you that will be joining a new club soon in the top grade way to good of a talent to be at the suns just yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
I thought he’s still young enough and good enough to be valuable in NPL. Cooks Hill, Adamstown, Lakes, Valo plus a few others would be mad not to chase him. Would improve them instantlyQuote:
Originally Posted by FatKeeper
One, it's Kotara South.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haircut
Two, they didn't take part in the covid cup* in 2020, like dudley and Warners bay.
Prior to that, all 3 grades made the semis in 2019, 2 made the GF and 1 side won. In 2018 2 sides made semis and 1 made the GF.
Not sure if any other club has more finals games in the last 4 years.
Uniformly poor indeed.
uh oh. Did you just correct a team name? Thats now the name, South Kotara.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaye#4
Goes with Nelsons Bay, Garden Suburbs
I'd consider not taking part in a season a poor performance. But you are right, they probably have played more finals in the last 4 years than anyone else. The fact that there have been not finals this year or last probably helped though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaye#4
oi jim, get a dog up ya!Quote:
Originally Posted by jim wallis
No worries, thnx m8.
:rof::rof: A name? Fantastic. Are you Nelsons Bay or Garden Suburbs? get a tear bucket :rof::rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeen
FYI people.
The Joint ZFL Panel extends its best to your Club Members and wish them the safest and best through this crazy lockdown situation.
The Joint ZFL Panel, have taken in account all the possible scenarios that had an effect on the conclusion of the ZFL season; we thank you for your patience and understanding during the on/off end to the 2021 season.
The decision is to recognise Premiers, Club Champions, Golden Boot with the outcome regards P & R that there will be no Promotion nor Relegation applied for the 2022 season, each Club will be reinstated into the Division held in 2021.
In addition we have decided to hold onto Match Bonuses for 2021 and apply and financial package that your Club would have received to the Nomination Fee for your Division in 2022; any negative gap between 2022 Fee and 2021 Bonus will be invoiced to you early next year; any positive difference will be either banked into your club nominated account or held as a credit against future invoiced costs e.g. Referee Match Fees.
The ability to either present or have awards collected is an issue at this time of lock down; we will inform you of a suitable solution once we have the Medals etc, on how to collect or we can deliver near-by to assist.
All the best stay safe.
Regards,
Russell Henry
Chief Executive Officer
Common sense prevailed here. Tough for the leaders of the divisions below but if the were going to go up and compete in ZPL there should be no dramas with them winning it next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
How so? Happy to announce premiers. Why doesn’t promotion and relegation happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
No wonder football in Newcastle is a joke.
I agree, if your going to announce premiers then surely promotion and relegation must happen doesn't it?
Some countries such as France cancelled their 2019/2020 season due to Covid19. Teams in Ligue 1 were still promoted and relegated.
I believe some clubs will ask to be promoted or relegated. Hopefully it balances out.
Not sure it's that easy to turn up next year and simply win it?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
But on the other hand, promo and relo could have gone through easily and if a club felt undeserved they would bounce back the following year.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
Works both ways. Anyway, did any player lose a bunch of cash for not going up? didnt think so
worst thing is missing out on the final series. no beers, no fun :sigh::sigh:
This is disgraceful considering most of the season was played, all that effort put in for nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
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Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
I wonder what club hits you with the lawsuit first… Competition rules are clear as day, no relegation/promotion is one thing but to not hand out the payments clubs deserve is bullocks. Have fun catching your tails here
Lakes have been screwed over . All the wins, club championship and premierships in 1st grade and reserve grade. That’s a lot of prize money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newysports2.0
If they were going to be in ZPL and competitive they need to be winning ZL1Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield
It's the joint Zone League panel, not solely Macquarie mate. No prize money for reserve grade either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homer7654
Probably best going through the official channel as opposed to the forum.
I wasn't solely talking about ZPL and ZL1. Minmi and Lakes would feel harshly done by, for them it's probably just a wasted year and another year to wait in trying to climb the zone league ladder.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
I think they have painted themselves into a massive corner here. If you announce Premiers then the rules say Premiers are promoted. Could be an interesting few weeks/months ahead. Payments decision is poor and petty. Pay the clubs what they deserve.Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield
Premiers go up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
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(a) ZONE FOOTBALL LEAGUE (ZFL) PREMIER LEAGUE (PL) COMPETITION
Except as provided for in other Regulations, the Club whose First Grade Team finishes at
the bottom of the Premier League becomes liable for Relegation and the Club whose
First Grade Team finishes at the top of the League One becomes liable for Promotion.
However
the ability of the Clubs to meet Zone Premier League criteria will also be considered by the
Joint Board Panel and the Competition Administrator/Coordinator.
(b) ZONE FOOTBALL LEAGUE (ZFL) LEAGUE ONE, TWO, THREE COMPETITIONS
ZONE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WOMEN’S LEAGUE ONE (L1) COMPETITIONS
Except as provided for in other Regulations, the Club whose First Grade Team has won the
ZFL League Two (L2) Competition Premiership MUST be promoted to ZFL League One (L1)
Competition; and the Club whose First Grade Team was last in the ZFL League One (L1)
Competition Premiership MUST be relegated to ZFL League Two (L2).
Except as provided for in other Regulations, the Club whose First Grade Team has won the
ZFL League Three (L3) Competition Premiership MUST be promoted to ZFL League Two
(L2)
Competition; and the Club whose First Grade Team was last in the ZFL League Two (L2)
Competition Premiership MUST be relegated to ZFL League Three (L3).
(c) ALL AGE GRADE, OVER 35 GRADE, OVER 45 GRADE, JUNIOR AGE GRADE
DIVISIONS
Except as provided in all other Regulations, the Team winning its Premiership Competition in
its Division becomes eligible for Promotion to a higher Division Competition in the following
season.
The Team finishing last in the Premiership Competition in its Division becomes liable for
Relegation to a Lower Division Competition in the following Season.
During consideration of a Team’s Promotion or Relegation, the Grading Committee shall give due
regard to the quality of each Player in the Team to ensure that the Team comprises Players of
similar quality to the previous Season.
No Premiership winning Team shall refuse to be promoted.