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to clarify, this isnt the local forum and he censored the word anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Just heard on the radio that Mirvac are sueing Tinkler for something like $30m of his assets due to unpaid moneys owed. If this is the case things are looking grim for Tinks.
I know this was mostly overlooked due to the financial uncertainty surrounding Tinks, but this is a good point from Foz about the recently announced youth academy. Great passion on Mitchy's face as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by smh
POWER companies will no longer be allowed to hire corporate boxes, sponsor footy teams, orchestras or zoo exhibits under cuts introduced by NSW Energy Minister Chris Hartcher.
Mr Hartcher has removed an Ausgrid box at ANZ Stadium worth $160,000 a year, ended a Taronga Zoo sponsorship worth $450,000 a year, a Sydney Symphony Orchestra contract worth $435,000 and the sponsorship of the Central Coast Mariners football team worth $350,000 each year.
Who should be the recipient of Ausgrid's NRL box? Leave a comment below
The Energy Minister has also ordered that taxpayer-owned Ausgrid stop subsidising the Sydney Theatre Company to the tune of $158,000 per year, a contract which provides staff and senior managers with tickets to shows.
Under the agreement with the zoo, Ausgrid staff were able to access 200 free family passes, while the company had advertising on the Zoo's "Great Southern Oceans Precinct".
AUSGRID bigwigs will have their corporate box at the footy confiscated amid a crackdown on perks at the state-owned power company.
If Ausgrid's sponsorship with the Sydney Symphony Orchestra had continued until it finished in 2014, electricity consumers would have spent $4.216 million propping up the classical music ensemble.
The funding comes despite the orchestra already receiving considerable government funds.
The Sunday Telegraph revealed last year that Ausgrid's then chairman, John Conde, was also the chairman of the orchestra.
The sponsorship cuts will not affect volunteer organisations such as Hunter Westpac Rescue Helicopter, the Sydney Burns Foundation, the Rural Fire Service and branches of Surf Life Saving NSW.
Mr Hartcher said with power bills soaring, it wasn't acceptable for an electricity company to be spending on sponsorships or corporate boxes.
The NSW government is determined to stamp out the "culture of entitlement and largess" at power companies.
"The NSW government expects the distribution networks to focus on delivering the lowest prices possible for NSW electricity consumers," he said. "We need to make sure every effort and every cent is directed towards driving down the cost of electricity to NSW households.
The O'Farrell government has merged the management of the three state-owned power companies - Ausgrid, Essential and Endeavour - to save $400 million by 2015.
This is part of a program which they hope will see power companies slash $1.7 billion from spending.
At least 130 executives on salaries over $150,000 have also been cut.
Ausgrid's NRL box will go to a worthy cause
AUSGRID bigwigs will have their corporate box at the football confiscated amid a crackdown on perks at the state-owned power company
Energy Minister Chris Hartcher has seized the $160,000 a year box at ANZ Stadium and axed sponsorship deals in a bid to reduce the state's soaring electricity bills.
NSW power bosses have been enjoying a fully catered corporate box at ANZ Stadium at customers' expense since 2009 - but Energy Minister Chris Hartcher has called full-time on the perk.
Electricity company Ausgrid has been paying $160,000 a year for the corporate box, which caters for 20.
But Mr Hartcher last week confiscated the luxury suite after the spending was uncovered in an audit of the state-owned company's corporate sponsorship.
Instead of letting power fat cats use it, Mr Hartcher said he wanted The Sunday Telegraph to give the box to some deserving fans for the NRL grand final on September 30.
Eat Shit Gypos
that photo :blush:
Del tha dingo can go to syd, i'd be happy with a strong griff.
ladz
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/...formance/49011
seems pretty confident/reliant on the fact we're signing another player, from overseas. i guess it's the first bit of marquee news in a while that isn't the usual "right for the club, right for the money" waffle.Quote:
Van Egmond reflects on mixed performance
Monday, 10 September 2012 2:27 PM
Hunter Ports Newcastle Jets head coach Gary van Egmond has described his side’s 1-1 draw with Sydney FC at Leichhardt Oval on Sunday as a mixed performance.
After a slow start to the match, the Jets found their feet and controlled the majority of the first half with Ruben Zadkovich putting them ahead with a free-kick in the 30th minute.
However, van Egmond said is was disappointing the Jets weren’t able to capitalise on their possession and territory by building a more sizeable advantage on the scoreboard.
“(Our performance) was a little bit mixed,” van Egmond said.
“I think the first ten minutes or so, Sydney were on top and we didn’t have ourselves organised as well as we would have liked. We probably didn’t do a few things we needed to do.
“For the rest of the first half though we started to dominate and for that part of the game it was really, really pleasing.
“The disappointing part was the fact that we didn’t get more goals. If we’re going to play that type of game where we press high, we need to get more goals from the work that we’re putting in to win that ball back.”
The Jets conceded from a Sydney FC corner midway through an evenly matched second half, but the draw meant Newcastle still maintained their unbeaten run this pre-season.
“Results wise, it’s always good (to be unbeaten),” he said.
“If you’re not getting a draw or a win in the pre-season, it can obviously lead to some doubt and some confidence issues.
“We’ve been mostly concentrating on the performance and what we have to do in regards to each game. We’re somewhat happy with how that’s going, but I think we can do a bit better.”
One aspect of the match that really pleased van Egmond was the way in which the Jets adapted to a slight change in their playing system.
The Jets started the match with a back three of Scott Neville, Josh Mitchell and Dominik Ritter and van Egmond was pleased with what he saw.
“I was very happy. It’s definitely a tactic that we’ll use this year,” he said.
“You have to have a plan A and a plan B. It doesn’t change in regards to the actual style of game that we play, but it does change things in regards to tactics.
“We have to be adaptable in case obviously other teams change things as well.”
The change meant regular left-back Craig Goodwin was able to play in a more advanced role in midfield.
“We looked at Craig in the midfield and we looked at him in a wide area a bit further up,” he said.
“He’s obviously shown in pre-season that he’s got an eye for goal, scoring a number of goals from the fullback position.
“We’re a little bit light on up front due to the fact we haven’t got our player from overseas yet, (James) Brown is available at the moment and Adam Taggart is another one who’s not here.
“So it’s good to know there are other players who can come in and do a job.”
The Jets’ next trial match is the Members’ season launch against Western Sydney Wanderers at Wanderers Oval, Broadmeadow on Saturday.
The game is a Members Only event. Jets fans can secure their entry to this match as well as all 13 of the Newcastle Jets’ home games at Hunter Stadium this season by signing up to become a 2012/13 Jets Member HERE.
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No where does he mention marquee, I'd be shocked if this is anything other then a normal visa player & judging by the visa signings I'd imagine it could be a younger signing, actually it does not even mention a visa spot so clearly.....Bring back Griff!Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Can't be bothered to post article due to using mobile. However there is an article doing the rounds that says that the new TV deal is $40million + $5million contra, fox to broadcast all HAL and Roos games live, SBS with 1 HAL game live (Saturday night), and all Roos games on 1hour delay, with a probable highlights package as well.
Whole deal worth in excess of $200million, standing us in good stead for expansion to 12 teams in the HAL leading into 2015 AFC cup.
Salary cap likely to increase, however expansion could prevent this. By creating more professional positions, increasing player share that way.
Clubs should get their $2.5million from next season, making it hard to see how a well run club could make a loss.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/so...-1226471374024Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
i'll believe it when i see it announced at a press conference.
also, aren't WCQ supposed to be on the anti-siphoning list now, or has that not been formally adopted yet?
I will be a little bit disappointed with $40million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
It still doesn't add up mathematically for me though.
I may not have completely accurate figures, but the current deal was around $120m over 7 years or $17m a year. The clubs get around $1.2m in a grant - or $12 million in total. So this is 70% of the tv money (not taking into account other sources of revenue). Now if the grant goes up to $40m and clubs get $2.5m each, they will get 62.5% of the money, but where does the rest go? The FFA's football pyramid isn't changing, so it shouldn't really need much more money to support its other operations, Socceroos, Matildas etc.
My belief has always been that the A-League generates most of the tv rights revenue but the FFA has always played this down, IMO to ensure it can take enough money to fund its football pyramid. Bonita Mersiades has made a few veiled references to this. I wouldn't be surprised if the club owners wise up to this and start demanding a larger share off the FFA.
The A-League should get almost all the increased revenue, which would take the grant to $3.5m for each team. It needn't be given unconditionally, it could be tied to forcing the clubs to create their own youth development system similar to the Emerging Jets plan.
$50m a year would be a better outcome. However, a deal like this would at least completely stabilise the game. Hopefully the deal is for less than 5 years, as I expect the game to come on greatly in the medium term.
actually according to FFA spin doctors the Socceroos generate most of the tv revenue
Yes, that's what they say. It may have been true 5 years ago, but I doubt its the case now. The A-League provides substantially more content at prime time. It generates supporter loyalty and this would lead to paytv subscriptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
The Socceroo World Cup qualifiers are now on the anti syphoning list (which would devalue them) and are not even owned by the FFA, they are owned by some Asian confederation sports group whos name escapes me. FFA only owns the rights to friendlies. To gain any revenue from the Qualifiers they would have to buy them off that sports group and on-sell them, which would only result in marginal profit.
In any case, I highly doubt the Socceroo rights are the reason for tv rights going from $17m a season to $40m. The only reason I can see for the A-League not getting most of that increase is if the FFA were determined to decrease the cost of playing football for registered juniors, but that could end up being a dangerous black hole for money. I'd rather it be spent at the elite level.
don't forget whatever ridiculous amount of money is being given to the negotiator company. can't remember their name, but aren't they getting something like 20% (could be talking out my arse here).
and far out, juniors have been subsidising the 'elite' at all levels for far too long, about time some money started flowing back down the bloody hill.
Not sure about the first point, you may be right, in which case a $40m deal will be disasterous and Buckley a complete failure in everything he did at the FFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by belchardo
How much does the FFA take from every junior player? I doubt it is significant (read somewhere that it is $12). My bet is that if the FFA tried to subsidise the cost of playing soccer for juniors, some middle man (state federations, ground owners, insurance companies, clubs) would find some way to justify increasing his costs and it would leave parents no better off or only marginally better off.
The socceroo's right's are held by WSG, FFA will earn $1m per game same as the rest of the AFC nations, which I can't see SBS matching so it looks like WSG might be paying FFA to have FTA socceroo's broadcast, so much for the dooms day preicted due to the Anti-siphon list.
Also the deal includes $5m of contra so it's really only $35m in cash.
I also agree hauss if all the value was in the socceroo's and not the A-League then why is it that Fox won't release the A-league rights for this year but are happy to do so for the socceroo's games from October, granted on delay.
SOCCER will be back on free-to-air television next month with a $40 million-a-year deal likely to be signed this week.
Fox Sports will continue to televise every domestic and international match live.
The Herald Sun understands SBS will also secure rights for A-League matches for four years from 2013, plus Socceroos games for five years.
SBS staved off a late bid from Network 10, which re-entered the race after missing out on NRL rights three weeks ago.
Kicking in a year earlier, the Socceroos' World Cup qualifiers will be televised on SBS on a one-hour delay, starting with a qualifier away to Iraq on October 16.
However, A-League will likely have to wait another year before games are shown on free-to-air.
The Herald Sun understands SBS will televise one live game a week - probably Saturday night.
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While SBS was keen to start immediately, Fox Sports wanted to retain exclusivity until 2013, when the present deal expires.
SBS may also screen a weekly highlights package.
The $40 million-per-year deal is likely to include at least $5 million in contra, with Fox Sports paying the lion's share. Fox Sports has had exclusive rights for A-League and Socceroos World Cup qualifiers and friendlies since 2005. The last deal was worth $21 million a year, incorporating $3 million of contra.
Football Federation Australia is proposing to lift the annual club dividend to $2.5 million once the deal kicks in (it already agreed to up the disbursement from $1.45 million to $1.9 million last July), covering the salary cap.
A-League owners are expected to fight for a larger sum.
Fox Sports executives were unavailable for comment and SBS head of sport Ken Shipp last night declined to comment.
Chief executive Ben Buckley remained tight-lipped last night and stressed that FFA was in no rush.
"We will take as much time as we need to take to get the agreement right and that's what we've said all along," Buckley said.
FFA has enjoyed a testy relationship with SBS.
Socceroos will be broadcast on SBS at 2:30am with a half hour delay. Full match will be replayed at 7am.
So was the Terror right about the media deal being done, or have they jumped the gun a little early, how pissed would SBS be if Buckley uses this to push 10 for more $$$$$Quote:
Watch Socceroos v Jordan on SBS
11 September 2012-SBS
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/resiz...27/w/310/h/174
Back on SBS... The Socceroos make their return to their spiritual home (Getty)
SBS will broadcast the next step of Australia's journey to the Brazil 2014 FIFA World Cup when the Socceroos take on Jordan in their next qualifier on Wednesday 12 September Australian time.
Jordan v Socceroos preview
Holger Osieck
Socceroos wary of Jordan threat
Thanks to a deal struck between Football Federation Australia, Fox Sports and SBS, the match will be broadcast on a one-hour delay free-to-air on SBS ONE, with coverage set to start at 2.30am AEST.
Broadcast details
Jordan v Australia
Delayed on SBS ONE from 2.30am AEST
Kick-off on SBS ONE 3am AEST
Exclusively live coverage will be on Fox Sports 3 HD from 1.30am AEST.
"SBS already has a long standing commitment to international football and we are passionate about this opportunity to work with FFA and Fox Sports to help grow the game in Australia," Ken Shipp, Head of Sport at SBS, said.
The match sees the national team's World Cup qualifiers return to free-to-air television some seven years after John Aloisi's historic penalty against Uruguay sent Australia to the Germany 2006 FIFA World Cup live on SBS.
SBS's coverage of Jordan v Australia will be hosted by Les Murray, with former Socceroos Craig Foster, David Zdrilic and Zeljko Kalac providing all the expert analysis.
In announcing the broadcast arrangement for the Jordan v Australia match, FFA CEO Ben Buckley said: "I thank our long-term partner Fox Sports for accommodating this arrangement.
"Australian football would not have achieved so much growth and development since 2005 without the significant investment of Fox Sports.
"I welcome SBS TV's support in broadcasting Wednesday's match. SBS has a rich history in covering domestic and international Australian football.
"FFA is currently in on-going discussions with Fox Sports and SBS over the long-term broadcast rights in Australian football.
"The discussions have reached an advanced stage and the parties have displayed good faith, which has allowed this one-off arrangement for Wednesday's match."
The Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy, welcomed the announcement.
"For the good of the game I congratulate everyone involved in showing the Socceroos game tomorrow morning," Senator Conroy said.
"It’s great to see that all Australian football fans will have the chance to cheer on their Socceroos as they work to qualify for the World Cup."
Thought I should put this 'ere.Quote:
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Wanderers won't shift on Del Piero match
by: Ray Gatt
From: The Australian
September 12, 2012 12:00AM
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THE Alessandro Del Piero phenomenon has not budged new A-League entity Western Sydney Wanderers, with the club refusing to switch the derby against Sydney FC to a bigger venue.
Despite fears thousands of fans could be locked out when the Italian legend plays for the Sky Blues against Wanderers in the third round of the competition on October 20, Western Sydney officials will leave the match at Parramatta Stadium.
The venue can hold only 20,000 and, with suggestions double the amount would attend the game because of the Del Piero factor, there were calls for the club to move it to the 80,000-capacity ANZ Stadium.
However, executive chairman Lyall Gorman said the Wanderers were determined to keep faith with their fans.
"We listened to the football community of western Sydney and they voted overwhelmingly in favour of Parramatta Stadium as the Wanderers' home ground," he said.
"We understand that our first ever match, against the Mariners (October 6), and the first ever Sydney derby will be hot tickets and that some of the public may miss out, but our commitment to our members comes first."
Gorman suggested the best way not to miss out was to become a foundation member of WSW. "Anyone thinking about becoming a Wanderers foundation member should move quickly," he said.
"Once the national on-sale commences, I think the Wanderers' home matches, particularly the Sydney derby, will be in high demand."
The Wanderers yesterday added two foreign players to their squad, boosting numbers to 18.
Italian Iacopo La Rocca and Dutchman Youssouf Hersi have signed one-year deals.
La Rocca, 28, a defensive midfielder, has had one trial and impressed coach Tony Popovic enough to earn a contract.
The Italian has has had stints in Italy and Switzerland.
Hersi, 30, adds experience to the Wanderers' defence after stints in The Netherlands, Greece and Cyprus.
Meanwhile, Newcastle Jets coach Gary van Egmond is understood to be looking at signing former star striker Joel Griffiths, who is playing for Chinese Super League club Shanghai Shenhua.
However, the club is also believed to be chasing a marquee player after seeing the reaction to Del Piero's signing at Sydney.
Griffiths, 33, has played 11 games this season with Shanghai and scored three goals.
Fantastic news, but what kind of marquee striker can they get at this late stage? I doubt it would be one that just finished with a sparkling career at a huge club in a top league and is also a striker that can get 12+ goals, which is what we need the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
Jets: Get Joel this year and look for a marquee next year. The league can ride on the coat tails of Del Piero. Only someone like Totti or Ronaldihno would rival Del Piero.
Not signing Joel will be a real missed opportunity for the supporters - he loves us and we love him.
not too sure who this Joel griffiths bloke is but I say give him a chance, hey
more people in Newcastle know Joel Griffiths than Alessandro Del Piero by a factor of about ten
why waste money on a foreigner no one knows when you can bring in the proven people's favourite?
This. I really don't get the media hype about del Piero tbh. Sure he might bring a few extra euro snobs and old sokkah Italians through the gates but that's just preaching to the converted.Quote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
All the 'biggest signing in HAL history' crap ignores the fact that very few people other than soccer fans are going to know (or care) who he is and some random Italian guy isn't going to see packed houses around the country.
I'll rain on the parade.....
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Tarek determined to push aside emotion
FORMER fan favourite Tarek Elrich is determined to block out the emotion of his first trip back to Newcastle and concentrate on helping new club Western Sydney Wanderers get a result over the Jets in a friendly at Wanderers Oval, Broadmeadow, on Saturday.
Elrich, the Jets' most capped player with 134 games, was shown the door in acrimonious circumstances at the end of last season.
The 2007-08 championship winner was told of his release via text message just before the news was circulated on email to the media and club members.
"I played in Newcastle for seven years, so it is going to be a bit different," he said.
"I'm going to put that aside and not let the occasion get the better of me.
"We want to play a certain style. There is no way I am going to go out on my own and do something different just because it's against Newcastle.
"You don't want the emotion to get the better of you."
Elrich, 25, was one of six former Jets alongside Nikolai Topor-Stanley, Labinot Haliti and fellow title winners Adam D'Apuzzo, Ante Covic and Mark Bridge snapped up by the start-up franchise.
"It's been great," Elrich said.
"[Coach] Tony Popovic let us know exactly what he expected from day one.
"It wasn't like going to a new place where you are the new one coming in.
"Everyone coming in was new. That made it easier than going to another established club.
"Players didn't come here as a last resort.
"They left their clubs because they wanted to play for this team."
Elrich was used in a wide attacking role in the latter stage of his career in Newcastle but under Popovic has returned to his more accustomed position in defence.
"I have been playing at right back, but Poppa has given me the licence to attack," Elrich said.
"If play breaks down, he wants other boys to cover rather than me sprinting back 100 metres.
"We are playing a 4-3-3 similar to the Jets.
"But we defend in one style and attack in a different style."
Elrich is expected to be joined in the starting side on Saturday by Covic (goalkeeper), Topor-Stanley (centre back), D'Apuzzo (left back), Bridge (striker) and Haliti (striker).
"They are in the best shape I have seen them in and have never been as hungry," Elrich said of his teammates.
"The Jets started pre-season six weeks before we did, but the training down here is the toughest pre-season I have done."
Wanderers completed their overseas player quota yesterday with confirmation Italian defender Iacopo La Rocca and Dutch midfielder Youssouf Hersi had agreed to terms.
The Jets still have one visa place to fill.
Talks with an Italian striker broke down last week and they have now turned their attention to a Brazilian front man.
The Herald understands that 2007-08 golden boot winner Joel Griffiths is also back in the frame.
Griffiths, 33, is off contract at Chinese Super League team Shanghai Shenhua and, although he could earn more in China or the Middle East, he is open to a return to Newcastle.
Coach Gary van Egmond is believed to be in favour of getting Griffiths back but has not convinced management.
There was also speculation yesterday that the exposure Sydney FC had garnered with the recruitment of Italian superstar Alessando Del Piero had given Jets management cause to look again at signing a big-name marquee player.
The transfer window for most European countries closed on August 31, meaning the Jets can sign only players who are out of contract and unlikely to have played since May.
Saturday's trial kicks off at 2pm and is open only to Jets and Wanderers members.
The fans want him, the coach wants him and he wants to come back......who is "management" ? Some open fan protesting may be required.
But he is the biggest signing in HAL history. Del Piero will attract 1.The old NSL stayaways/euro centric fans, 2. more committed A-League fans, and 3. bandwagoners who are after entertainment/to be part of something big/to see what the fuss is all about. Two of these three groups don't currently go to Sydney FC games and A-League games in general. Del Piero's name will attract group 1 and 2, the all important "media hype" will attract group 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disinterested Bystander
It's the perfect storm.
If we have a choice between a marquee like del Piero and Griff.
Sign Griff FFS.
I think you'll find that Robbie middleby involves himself with transfers a bit more than required. I know he did for a particular yoof signing, and that turned out disastrously. wouldn't be surprised if Robbie isn't a personal fan of griff & this is the only thing stopping it going ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
I suggest we flash mob the jets office
I also suggest we get furnz to write a glorious letter, and we email-bomb the jets contact email. like we did for the colour changes.
What happens when he leaves....
That's my issue with throwing millions after a name player at the end of their career, I'm much happier with the club throwing more funds at the emerging jets program and the prospect of the great one returning to cap off his career, bring Griffo home!
Me too. Sydney is in a different position to us. They need a Del Piero. We need the Griff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Sydney having Del Piero will put bums on seats, but I can't see them doing any good as a squad.. As my old-boy said to me (not sure if he plagiarised it), they have got a Ferrari playing in front of a bunch of Fiats..
This has Deans' fingerprints all over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
I hate to be the one calling this out... but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
You'd rather JG who has basically been chasing $$$ in the chinese league for a cashed up no-name team, then a worldwide football legend who recently guided his team undefeated to a championship in one of the toughest leagues in the world?
I love the griff as much as anyone but if it was him or someone like del piero... i might have to think on it at least....
;)
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he said "like" del piero. we can't get the man himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guerny
the answer would still be yes. you claim all joel has been doing is chasing $$$ in china but what would it say about us if we chose a del piero over a great A-League player who we love and who loves us? We would be the ones showing a lack of loyalty. What if he went on to play for WSW, for example. I'd be absolutely gutted.
it should be the easiest transfer deal in A-League history. I would hate to be the person in Jets management standing in the way of it if it doesn't go ahead. I would urge them to step out of the way. We will get 11,000 members if Griffo comes back.
get on this fernsQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4