Apparently he had a golly good time, except for the spitting rain outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverBlack
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Apparently he had a golly good time, except for the spitting rain outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverBlack
Stop it, I can't hack this anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
He didn’t attend but someone who was the “spitting image” of him did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
Apparently he has been made to spit out 5 games
Depending on Magics FFA Cup schedule he should be back for part of NPL finals
Glad your not my lawyerQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverBlack
Would have done it pro bonoQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
Maybe you should have been in there with Spitox though. Big precedent set now by NNSWF.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverBlack
Deserved what he got. Disgraceful act. Now let's see what Magic is made of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
Everyone knows he did it . So will they wear the punishment handed down like they should or will they appeal to try and get their star player back quicker
I reckon they should appeal and use the vision, he clearly did not spit on the player
100% agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Alton
Keep telling yourself that 😳Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
So player who claimed he did must be a liar then ?.
Plus the witnesses. They must all be lying as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by 380
So they didn’t use the vision yet was found guilty, my understanding is it’s his word against another, on what grounds or evidence was he found guilty on, I’m confused on how they made a decision with out using video evidence or did they view it secretly and pretend they didn’t view it
Nail on head ForeverRedQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Does anyone know if OX had any witnesses, generally happens in cases like this, he said she said, case closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverBlack
Who cares, he did it he’s copped a suspension. Move onQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverBlack
If he didn't do it he sure did a very good impersonation of somebody who did. Looks pretty clear on the footage in full screen mode.
The only bizarre part of it all is this selective evidence attitude but nonetheless the footage is not a good look.
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Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Its my understanding that your understanding is wrong, once again.
What intrigues me now is why Magic are “90% likely” to appeal.
A) he was found guilty, rightly or wrongly, based on he said/she said
B) the more “concrete” evidence of the video wasn’t used.
C) the appeal is $1000 and could result in more games
D) they can use the video. Which I don’t think will help him considering they found him guilty in the first place. And it doesn’t exactly show him not spitting in that direction.
Who knows.
Maybe he directed it at the feet of the opposition (still not a very good thing to do) but at least that’s better than “at the player”. Idk. If you’re scummy enough to spit at somebody, I feel like you get a better shot off, rather than aiming for the feet.
And there doesn’t look to be any provocation. Wasn’t the player who tripped him and certainly doesn’t appear he said anything. Seems odd to go up to somebody unsuspecting and spit on them.
Anyway. Hopefully they get it over and done with so we can focus on the football and finals race.
Again, look at the vision, he doesn't spit on him !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
Everyone in football in Newcastle who is not aligned with Magic knows that he spat on the kid. Put your hand up and cop your punishment. If they appeal i hope he gets the extra week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
Just viewed the footage again and you are correct Alton, he doesn't spit on him at worst on the ground but even that isn't conclusive. If the allegation is that OX spat on the player then I think with video footage allowed in an appeal OX may get off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverBlack
I’m not really swayed either way.
If you view it thinking he spat at the player, you can make an argument for that.
If you think he didn’t, you can make an argument for that.
Is it 100% conclusive? No.
The offense isn't spitting on a player, the offense is spitting at a player, carrying a 6 match ban when dealt with on the pitch. He was accused of spitting at a player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alton
If he didn't spit at the player, what did he do, as video clearly shows an action?
Surley if he didnt spit then although the vision wasnt seen at the hearing surley he explained what he did do, becuase he definetly made a movement towards the player and the player and the other nearest player instantly react and make a report to the referee. So something must of happen anyone that doesnt except that is a fool. The footage along with the immediate report of the allegation is UNDEFENADABLE and emabarrasing to the Magic football club if they choose to appeal it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Maradona
Two thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
1. If it is undefendable surely that's what an appeal will conclude
2. An appeal is also the opportunity to achieve a different outcome if you feel you weren't justly served
Let the judicial system system sort this out
dontknowmuch sure don’t know muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch
Footage is turning into the NF.net version of the Zapruder film.
Straight from FFA Disciplanary RegulationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Alton
7. Spitting at a Player or any other person other than a Match Official
5 additional matches plus the Mandatory Match Suspension
He doesn’t have to spit on him as you may have correctly pointed out as it can’t be conclusively determined where the spit landed.
He only has to spit at him and a panel upon viewing the video would conclusively conclude this occurred.
Guilty.
For a player who has made a career out of being a HAL replacement of sorts he should know better and if he or his supporters claim he didn't spit on him IMO i reckon that is down to his poor aim of the target than anything else, Like his passing.
But here is the first problem with your statement about a panel viewing itQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
Northern have been on record that no BarTV footage would be used for disciplinary matters
So if it has been used here or the panel have viewed it privately even just following it in the media then there is Magics get out of gaol card there
I’m referring to the appeal hearing where it can be used. No get out of jail Card there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Wasn't there games on the weekend? This loogie has taken up more airtime than when JFK got shot. Grub, but move on I say...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
Olympic V Jaffas one the better games I have watched this year. Will be an interesting few weeks results wise.
Looks like #SpittleGate will role on for another week https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5...ocess/?cs=6188Quote:
Originally Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan
Classy hatrick from the old horse Johnny Maj last night! Perfect time to get in a good run of form before the derby game this Sunday!
Different set of circumstances but one would think Northern are competent enough (pipe dream) to have tightened up their procedure to ensure they won't get done for this again.Quote:
In 2016, Maitland player Ryan Clarke won his appeal to FFA against a NNSWF code of conduct suspension purely on legal grounds relating to judiciary procedure.
Was told today by someone connected with Charlestown club that Ned has been given 12 month ban by the club. This true Go Away?