Cracker of an album. Over 50 million would say thriller. Probably closed to 100 million but can't be bothered looking up the latest sales figuresQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
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Cracker of an album. Over 50 million would say thriller. Probably closed to 100 million but can't be bothered looking up the latest sales figuresQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Bee Gees are another proper pop group.
ABBA too.
Actually ABBA has to be right up there yeah?
Yep. Ticks all the boxes of being consistent, accessible, and it's definitely stood the test of time as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Yes if you include compilations. No if you only include albums - because their albums contain a lot of filler - most of which even their biggest fans skip.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
ABBA's best effort is a greatest hits compilation. Best of Abba or Abba Gold
Bee Gees best effort is a Movie Sound track compilation. Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack
Thought of another one. Only question is whether or not is accessible ? I'm too much of a fan to be unbiased.
Elvis Costello - This Years Model.
Good call on Carole King, I grew up on that album.
Also I think you're underestimating the accessibility of an album like Pet Sounds. It may have been a bit weird back then, but it's not now and a lot of the songs play like straight pop tunes.
pretty hard to say it's not an MJ album though. literally every album has one or two songs someone doesn't like/thinks is filler.
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Yes I think you are right. It was a bit too much for people when it came out - but the multilayered sound of it is pretty much the norm now.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Yeah look I'll never knock anyone's talents but this dude doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the others that have been mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Also, is Elvis now considered 'pop' music?
Because at the time it wasn't it considered a bit weird?
I have no idea what or who Elvis was back then, but obviously now he's as mainstream as it comes.
Elvis is Rock n Roll - and Rock and Roll was dead and buried before 1960.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
He never really made an album in the form we are talking about here either - his so called albums were pretty much all compilations or covers based.
it's not until 1964 that a band or artist actually released an album of all original material that had mass appeal [The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night]
The Joshua Tree
The quality of the songs diminishes rapidly after track 3. Which is why a lot of people consider it the most front loaded album of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by baldrick
It sold a shit load of copies though - more than 25 million so maybe I'm just biased against it. I'd rate Achtung Baby as a massive upgrade.
I'd def never put U2 as 'pop' music. But that's my definition.
Very hard defining "pop" - I now realise most of my collection "isn't"!
The new Sgt Pepper mixes later this month will be interesting. The greatest pop music was during the 60's but it was a singles market and albums were just singles collections plus filler.
In the 70's the biggest bands in pop music - Slade, Sweet, T-Rex, Skyhooks, Sherbet et al don't really sound like "pop" now, though they were considered that at the time.
I'd give a guernsey to Abba's "Arrival" - very classy LP that one and I still have it.
80's/90's is pop heaven due to the onset of video - not much since 2000 strikes me as pop though in terms of albums, seems to be singles driven again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzZCoe38_hMQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Mate, some massive shows there!!! Especially seeing them in London!Quote:
Originally Posted by idontwannaplaywithhowey
Dillinger just go batshit on stage, admittedly at the expense of their sound, but if you want to hear it perfect then stay home and listen to the album.. haha
To see them playing with Arch Enemy, Ephel Duath AND the Haunted.. Fvck!!! What a lineup! I've seen the Haunted a couple of times (I still think Dolving was their best singer, crazysnake bloke, but great vocalist) and my old band got to play at an Arch Enemy after party show in Sydney for the band members (however Angela the saucy minx didn't show up! haha)
I've seen In Flames lives once, but it was at a festival and I'd like to have seen them at a smaller more intimate show..
As for Madball in a basement style pub, that would have been insane! I saw them in Sydney with two of my fave NYHC bands, Vision Of Disorder and Sick Of It All..
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
As for the whole pop conversation, its probably the genre I know least about or have minimal to do with, but I'd have to say my mind would automatically go towards MJ..
Pretty sure you have all summed it up quite well and I've got nothing to add.. :rof:
Slade, Sweet, T-Rex, and to a lesser extent Skyhooks - I'd say would sit alongside hair metal type bands like Poison, Whitesnake, Bon Jovi - that sort of thing. Not Metal / not rock / not really pop either. But with mass appeal among teens at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetmaster
But if I had to define what Pop was in the early to mid 70's it would be these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNLdOx5zcRs
Oh how we hated them so much. And yet over 40 years later I kind think they weren't so bad. Maybe even good.
Who or what the hell is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
The Bay City Rollers. I posted a video above - have a listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
They were the early 1970's version of One Direction only these guys could actually play a little.
Every teenage girl loved them every teenage dude wanted to punch them out.
ok, so im stuck in yet another hole room so what better time than to share some examples of why i love Prince.
first up:
Super Bowl performance.
Its was belting down, his dancers (and him) had ridiculous heels on.
He used live guitars, something that doesnt happen anymore and most importantly (as explained in a documentary that i cant find right now) he was just up there jamming, playing covers, not caring or even trying to promote himself, or his latest work. he was just rocking out in front of a couple hundred million people.
and he killed it.
i love this, hope you enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NN3gsSf-Ys
*edit, ok i found the part of the official NFL doc that explains it better.
next:
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction (for someone).
The names up there are pretty legendary, then in rocks Prince.
Absolutely smashes it. The amount of ego on that stage would have been phenomenal. Yet the solo is just insane and no one dares step on his moment.
also, this is absolutely worth watching just to see the most Prince of Prince moments after hes done. Where the hell did that guitar go?
enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y
last one:
Bruno Mars Super Bowl performance.
by god this bloke is great.
that voice, as evidenced when Anthony Keidis tries to jam with him.
i love Bruno Mars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2i0Bc3f7jk
Great posts Plague. I've been a Prince fan since the late 1970's - have all the albums and never tire listening to them.
Bruno Mars is brilliant. Very unique voice and can pretty much puts his stamp on anything he sings.
Happy birthday, Bon. In honour of this day, I have asked Arjen to release an album and he has done so. What a bloke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Source_(Ayreon_album)
Listening to your present now :gent:
Anyone go to Protest The Hero the other night? Still pretty great even though they had to play as a 4 piece
Cheers mate, I might have to go find it and give it a burl now..Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
I had all intentions of going, however ended up having a "meet the parents" evening with the new Mrs.. haha..Quote:
Originally Posted by A.J.
How was it? I heard they had to do it 4 piece as one of the guitarists had to fly back to Canada for personal reasons..
I was a huge fan of their original bassist, Arif, but only realised he left the band semi-recently..
Ah the Rollers, yes. Hated at the time but much more appreciated down the track for their musicianship.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
"We hate the Rollers, oh yes we do, and when we hear them sing, they make us spew".
Much like another that just came to mind whose TV series I am now binging on...
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016...d-s900-c85.jpg
Some mighty classy pop songs came from them and an amazing stable of songwriters.
Used to collect Monkees bubblegum cards and wear a Mike Nesmith woolly hat when I was 7 years old - what a twat!
That was the first time I've seen them. Was a bit hesitant with the sunday night show plus guitarist heading back to Canada, but they ended up running some of his parts through the PA and it sounded good, plus he is the less "shreddier' of the two. Setlist was good - one off Kezia, 2 each off Scurrilous and the new ep and the rest of the set was from Fortress and Volition. New bass player was on his first tour with them I think and seemed to be loving it - guy can definitely playQuote:
Originally Posted by Bon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISey8CPOo3Q
Judge away but Im loving their new music
You can like what you want, Stanny... no judgement from me. I love Michelle Branch and John Denver, so I can't judge anyone :gent:Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
I loved that everywhere song by Michelle Branch and the song she did with SantanaQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Breathe is my Michelle Branch favourite.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Did you end up picking up a guitar ? If so, it's a very easy song to learn if you were looking for ideas of things to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
I got my brothers acoustic restrung a few weeks back but have had a hectic schedule and haven't had a chance to pick it up yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Well that Groovin the Moo shit is on again - can hear the bass notes travelling up the valley towards my place already.
Same as last year they seem to have put a ban on anyone that can actually play an instrument being allowed on stage.
I know I'm old and out of touch - but holy shit this crap is terrible. In my day we would have thrown bottles at khunts that played that poorly.
:rof::rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster